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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008 The biggest decision of any new president's life....what rug will he put in the Oval Office.....now it's Obama's turn:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2008/nov/05/obama-oval-office-rug Here's a look at the Presidents' Oval Office Rugs over the years: All photos from: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/nov/05/usa?picture=339372895 1933: Franklin D Roosevelt in the Oval Office  1962: John F Kennedy's children visit the Oval Office  President Richard Nixon's office in the White House. The rug, designed by Mrs Nixon, featured the Presidential seal in gold in the centre and golden stars around the edge, all on a field of flag blue  President Gerald R Ford with his dog, Liberty, in the Oval Office  President Jimmy Carter  1987: President Ronald Reagan sitting at his desk in the Oval Office  1990: President George Bush and his dog Minnie in the Oval Office  President Bill Clinton delivering his first radio address to the Nation from the Oval Office  Bush and Condeleeza  (whitehousehistory.org) Personally, I think I like Bill Clinton's taste and current Geroge Bush's taste the best out of all of them, but perhaps because they are the most recent and "modern". It also appears that FDR and Nixon didn't use the same presidential desk that they others used. It seems the wood border around the office remains each time however..... Let's see what Obama's looks like..... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:07:18 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. Actually, aside from the floral border, doesn't it look like Ronald Reagan kept the main part of Jimmy Carter's rug? |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 11 16:11:16 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:07:18 2008. It does look the same, but look at Reagan's photo; there appears to be a cutout under his chair.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Nov 11 16:12:19 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. Clinton appears to have had a different design at some point:
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:21:40 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Nov 11 16:12:19 2008. Perhaps that's because the rug got "dirty" after he was in there with Monica....nyuck....nyuck.....No seriously, yes, it does look different. Perhaps they are allowed to redo it when they are reelected? I like the design you posted better. I would say perhaps it was the angle that looked different, but the chairs next to the desk appear to have different upulstery. By the way, it appears they keep those wooden chairs too, just reupolster them. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:24:57 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 11 16:11:16 2008. Actually, the date may be wrong on Reagan's photo, as perhaps that is when he first took over after Carter, the rug is different in this photo:
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 11 16:27:50 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:24:57 2008. I think you're right. They can't do anything until after January 20th, so it was the old rug for the first, I dunno, week maybe? Maybe that cutout was the work beginning. Don't ask me what that's for lol.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:29:16 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 11 16:27:50 2008. Actually his office also winded up being pretty tasteful too. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:33:58 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:29:16 2008. LOL, actually, it looks like "old" Bush kept Ronald Reagan's drapes....unless this photo was also taken before they had the chance to change them....Actually, I like them the best of the group....
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Nov 11 16:52:39 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. The windows look like ordinary glass, but almost certainly they're bulletproof and blast-resistant. I wonder how that's done, without making them look unusually thick.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Nov 11 17:07:18 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 11 16:27:50 2008. They use the old rug until the new one is delivered, the old rug is then given to the former president. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 11 17:21:33 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. In an effort to show bipartisanism, this one's in the running ...
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 11 17:28:08 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. I think Dubya's is the best. Nixons, while I don't like the color scheme, I like the orientation and the contrast of the seal in front of his desk. |
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Posted by Karl B on Tue Nov 11 17:43:58 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. It's too bad that pictures of the rug during Truman and Ike's time aren't available. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 11 17:44:50 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. What a waste of our money to keep changing the decor. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 11 20:32:14 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:33:58 2008. The chairs next to the desk appear to be the only constant in all of the pictures, although they do get reupholstered several times. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 11 20:40:02 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Nov 11 16:52:39 2008. They're also designed not to vibrate in response to sound, in order to prevent anyone from listening in to conversations inside with a laser (yes, that can be done). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 11 20:41:33 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 11 17:44:50 2008. Rugs wear out and have to be changed anyway. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 11 20:42:57 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. That's because it's a rug and not a carpet, they leave the floor itself alone. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 23:15:14 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Nov 11 16:52:39 2008. And FDR has those thick shades on them..... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 23:28:59 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Karl B on Tue Nov 11 17:43:58 2008. Here's Truman, and of course the only staple is those wooden chairs: President Taft was the first president to use the Oval office, which he made a full oval out of the secretaries round office in 1909. Here's a good site with some more photos of all the others too, as well as close ups of the rugs, and a history of the oval office. Before Taft, it appears the presidents used the Lincoln Bedroom. The photos are confusing, depending on when they were taken, as on this site, it shows George Bush Sr working at his desk on Clinton's blue rug. I guess Obama will use George Bush's rug for a few months also. That's what we had that confusing photo of Ronald Reagan on Carter's rug. http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/west-wing/oval-office-history.htm |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 23:29:28 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 11 17:44:50 2008. Oh please. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 23:30:18 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 11 20:42:57 2008. George Bush Sr apparently refinished the wooden floor too in a full renovation, I am sure it needed it by then. That's not done every time. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 11 23:31:31 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. Obama could have saved money by not getting a new rug. This Bush, however, absolutely had to get a new rug...lord knows what his predecessor left behind! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 11 23:32:21 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 11 17:28:08 2008. It certainly looks much better than Clinton's did...never mind what was left on it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 23:34:21 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 11 23:32:21 2008. Sticky. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 23:38:48 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 11 23:31:31 2008. Hahahahahahaha!Really, I like Bush's rug the best out of all of them. I like George Sr's too. Ronald Reagan's is also pretty nice (the one shown in the subsequent post, not the original post, which shows Reagan on Carter's rug. Clinton's is nice too, even if very blue (minus the stains). I think the worst has to be Nixon's, but that's probably not entirely his fault, that was "the style" in the late 60's and 70's.....one of the worst times in style. I also think Kennedy's is awful, but that was just carpet. Again, not his fault as that was stylish back then too, wall to wall carpeting. In one of the articles it said he was "suburbanizing" the office..... |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 04:32:15 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. I like the last two the best also. Notice the obscene looking sculpture on the dresser in the Bush II pic. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 04:36:04 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Nov 11 17:07:18 2008. They use the old rug until the new one is delivered, the old rug is then given to the former president.Interesting. I know that most Presidential Libraries have re-creations of the Oval Office as they looked when that person was POTUS. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 12 04:38:46 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 04:32:15 2008. Nah, that's just him falling off the horse because the wagon was another of his failed businesses and was liquidated. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 04:39:22 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 11 20:40:02 2008. They're also designed not to vibrate in response to sound, in order to prevent anyone from listening in to conversations inside with a laser (yes, that can be done)....and so the President doesn't hear the protesters outside. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 12 04:42:45 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 11 20:40:02 2008. Can't say a whole lot about what I did in a former life, but the "laser bounce" trick FAILS when you have MUZAK speakers directed directly at the glass ... you get THAT instead, which drowns out anything from "room noise" ... and when the signals on the speakers vibrating the glass have certain wavelengths and repetitions, there's nothing in the "background" to recover even if you remove the "covering audio" ... I designed systems to handle that kinda stuff in the late 60's. :)Won't go into details, but suffice it to say that the windows are NOT "single pane." Heh. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 05:31:35 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 12 04:38:46 2008. haha |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 12 08:54:18 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. SNL should bring back Chevy Chase and do one more skit.I'm sure it would be a beauty. "An Oval Office"....... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 12 11:57:02 2008, in response to New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 16:01:39 2008. The one from the FIRST Bush...now that looks good. His son's rug isn't bad either. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 12 11:57:35 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 12 11:57:02 2008. The worst ones have to be Clinton's, and then Nixon's. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Nov 12 19:23:06 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 04:36:04 2008. The Presidential Libraries might get the originals. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oval_Office):A tradition evolved in the latter part of the twentieth century of each new administration redecorating the office to the President's liking. A new administration usually selects an oval carpet, new drapery, the paintings on the walls, and some furniture. Most incoming presidents continue using the rug of their predecessor until their new one is installed. The retired carpet very often is then moved to the presidential library of the president for whom it was made. The redecoration of the Oval Office is usually coordinated by the First Lady's office in the East Wing, working with an interior designer and the White House Curator. |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Nov 12 19:53:57 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Nov 12 19:23:06 2008. maybe we,ll have it in the shape& colours of a WATERMELLON![here comes the slings&arrows] |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 19:58:14 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Nov 12 19:53:57 2008. here comes the slings&arrowsShakespeare reference. |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Nov 12 20:45:21 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 19:58:14 2008. yeah,i gots me a highly developed mime. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 21:02:44 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Nov 12 20:45:21 2008. i gots me a highly developed mimeWhere do you keep him?  |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Nov 12 21:17:56 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 21:02:44 2008. in de udder guys mirror |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 13 02:30:56 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 12 11:57:35 2008. I don't like the Ford/Carter one. The creepiest was the red Kennedy one. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 13 16:07:57 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 11 23:30:18 2008. From whitehousemuseum.org:The President’s Floor Since its original construction in 1934 under Franklin Roosevelt, there have been four floors in the Oval Office. The original floor was made of cork. However, Dwight Eisenhower was an avid golfer and destroyed the floor with his golf spikes. Lyndon Johnson had the floor replaced in the mid-1960s with wood-grain linoleum. In 1982, fed up with the linoleum floor, Ronald Reagan had the floor replaced by the same contractors who had put the floor into his ranch in California with white pine and oak in a wagon-wheel pattern. In August of 2005, the floor was replaced again under George W Bush in almost exactly the same pattern as the Reagan floor. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 13 16:18:23 2008, in response to Re: New Oval Office Rug, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 13 16:07:57 2008. Apparently, the oval office burned in a 1929 fire, which I never knew about, so that's why 1934 had the new floor in the "rebuilt" oval office:
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