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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:14:45 2008 Palin's disabled child not hers, it's her oldest daughter's. And I have to feel guilty about questioning Obama's status as a Muslim? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 13:19:39 2008, in response to Only took the left 24 hours to "go there", posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:14:45 2008. Shocking! I would never have expected the fringes of either party to "go there." Normally the fringe is so rational! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:24:38 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 13:19:39 2008. DailyKos is not the fringe. It's the mainstream. Their yearly convention is attended by dozens of well-know Democratic politicians. |
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Posted by Russ on Sat Aug 30 13:35:48 2008, in response to Only took the left 24 hours to "go there", posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:14:45 2008. This issue can't hurt her. If it is true, do the Democrats really want to attack a protective mother? How many women do the Democrats want to drive to McCain/Palin.I don't know if this is true, but here are some things to consider: 1) Very young parents are far less likely to give birth to children with Downs Syndrome. 2) Parents over a certain age, like that of Sarah and Todd Palin, are where you would expect such children to be conceived. 3) Sarah Palin is very athletic, and women in top shape show their pregnancy less. 4) Some of the photos being shown as "proof" have her wearing loose fitting clothing. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 13:44:10 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Russ on Sat Aug 30 13:35:48 2008. I wouldn't think any less of her even if the rumor were true and I really doubt that it is.But what she's wearing in her 6 months pregnancy picture doesn't look loose fitting. 
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:46:53 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 13:44:10 2008. Yeah, it does. I'm glad she has enough class to avoid putting her huge belly on display like too many pregnant woman do these days. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:57:20 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:46:53 2008. Pregnancy, with class: 
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 30 13:59:47 2008, in response to Only took the left 24 hours to "go there", posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:14:45 2008. And I have to feel guilty about questioning Obama's status as a Muslim?So your justification for ridiculous posts is that there are left wingers who do it too? There are still left wingers who have very positive thoughts about Stalin (see other posts on this board). Does that mean you should have positive thoughts about Stalin's right-wing equivalents? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 14:02:00 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AlM on Sat Aug 30 13:59:47 2008. Um, no. I am offended when a legitimate and factually correct assertion made by one side (Obama is Muslim according to Islamic law) is branded racist, yet the left feels free enough to throw truly offensive bullshit around without any consequence. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 14:15:40 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 14:02:00 2008. Exactly. The same people who argue against Obama being Muslim would laugh if I said Eliot Spitzer is not Jewish. Spitzer, like Obama, received some religious instruction as a child. Spitzer never made his Bar-Mitzvah though. Still only a total lunatic would say Spitzer isn't Jewish. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 14:44:19 2008, in response to Only took the left 24 hours to "go there", posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:14:45 2008. http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/2008/04/baby-palin-makes-suprise-arrival.htmlSome article on her birth. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 14:54:18 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 14:02:00 2008. Just one problem...Islamic law does NOT state this. Similarly, because one is born to a Jewish dad and Catholic mother doesn't mean that one is Jewish...I know this may come as a surprise.If it states this, please show me where, and provide a link. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 14:55:07 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 14:15:40 2008. However, those saying that are misintepreting the law...and just because one is born to Muslim parents does NOT mean one is Muslim. Unfortunately, Chris R16 is not smart enough to realize that...and neither are you, apparently. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:07:48 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 14:55:07 2008. How come you make the argument against Obama being Muslim, but stand limp-dicked about the case for Spitzer not being Jewish? You can't argue one half my argument and not the other. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:09:13 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:07:48 2008. I don't believe the Spitzer statement either...UNLESS he was actually raised Jewish. It is how the person was raised that matters. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:11:47 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:09:13 2008. So you're saying Spitzer isn't Jewish? That's a good one. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:12:10 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:11:47 2008. Was he raised Jewsh? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:13:24 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:12:10 2008. Until a young age. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:14:37 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:13:24 2008. But the fact is that he was raised Jewish for at least a part of his life. Was Obama ever raised Muslim? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Aug 30 15:17:14 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:14:37 2008. no he was not, his mother raised him a Catholic from early on. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:17:59 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:14:37 2008. He was enrolled as a Muslim in school. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:22:18 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:17:59 2008. Oh okay. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:33:11 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:22:18 2008. he was. the reason given was that the school assumed he was muslim because of his name and background. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:40:56 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:33:11 2008. But was the school Muslim...with what you said in mind, or was it a public school? Now I'm thinking it was a clerical error. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:41:55 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:40:56 2008. Public school. But in those countries, public schools give Islamic instruction. Just like they want to do here. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 15:45:38 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:41:55 2008. It was Indonesia and from what I remember they were saying that Indonesia requires that all students have religious classes. They have Muslim students take Islamic classes, Christians take Christian classes, etc. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:49:04 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 15:45:38 2008. Tell that to the boy wonder of this message board, Moreira. He still can't understand any of this, so he calls ChrisR16 and myself names. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Aug 30 15:55:54 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:17:59 2008. How many people of other religion go to Catholic school in USAhe went to a muslim school in Indonesia whewre 90 % of people are muslim. So kind of a stupid remark, guilty by assosiations. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 30 15:57:07 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 13:46:53 2008. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 30 16:00:12 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:07:48 2008. Being Jewish is also considered a nationality/ethnicity. Being Muslim is not. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 16:02:13 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 15:45:38 2008. Then if that is the case...it isn't if he had the choice. Some people here made it seem as though he and his parents had a choice. And that, IMO, is critical. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 30 16:03:26 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 30 15:49:04 2008. He still can't understand any of this, so he calls ChrisR16 and myself names.You can't understand any of this and are calling Chris and yourself names? |
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 30 16:53:43 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 15:09:13 2008. How about some more basic questions:Does Spitzer identify himself as being a Jew? (I don’t know the answer to the question) Does Obama identify himself as being a Christian? Yes—information from his web site. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 30 16:54:45 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 30 16:00:12 2008. Which is silly. Judaism is a religion. Israel is a country, which happens to have Judaism as its established religion. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 17:07:03 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 30 16:54:45 2008. It doesn't just "happen" to have Judaism as its established religion. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 30 17:46:30 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 30 14:02:00 2008. Um, no. I am offended when a legitimate and factually correct assertion made by one side (Obama is Muslim according to Islamic law) is branded racist, yet the left feels free enough to throw truly offensive bullshit around without any consequence.Well, she could always sue for libel... |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 30 17:48:07 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 30 16:54:45 2008. It ranks with the Knights of Malta in that blurriness respect. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 19:23:24 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 30 16:54:45 2008. Which is silly. Judaism is a religionBut Jews are an ethnic group. So what's silly about that? Indians share a name with their religion as well. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 19:24:21 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Aug 30 15:55:54 2008. Apples and oranges. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 19:27:12 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 19:23:24 2008. Seems like Jews are 2 and even 3 ethnic groups if you count the ones from Ethiopia. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 31 02:08:29 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Easy on Sat Aug 30 19:27:12 2008. I would think it's more complicated than that. In addition to the main groups (Ashkenazi and Sephardi), there are also the smaller groups like the Ethopians and the Yemenis.But why is that odd? How many distinct ethnic groups primarily practice Christianity, or Islam? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 31 02:09:10 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 30 16:54:45 2008. How is it silly? Ethnicities don't necessarily have countries to go with them. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 31 02:37:55 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 31 02:09:10 2008. Ethnicities don't necessarily have countries to go with themQuite so. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 1 12:26:56 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 30 14:54:18 2008. Incorrect. Islamic law states the father's status is the sole method of identification. And Muslims of almost every stripe agree. Please don't resort to outright bullshit. It's better to admit the truth, then try to marginalize it. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 1 13:38:18 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 1 12:26:56 2008. If a Muslim converts to Christianity they are no longer subject to Muslim laws regardless of having a Muslim father or what various Islamic imans or the assorted media says. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 1 13:59:09 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 1 13:38:18 2008. Islam does not recognize these conversions. They consider it blasphemous, but the perpetrator will always be considered a Muslim. Nice try. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 1 14:20:44 2008, in response to Re: Only took the left 24 hours to ''go there'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 1 13:59:09 2008. According to whom, however? The people you are saying is correct don't count. |
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