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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 11:20:55 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 11:15:14 2008. So move. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 25 11:21:58 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 06:16:03 2008. Yea, same old song every 4 years. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 11:25:51 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 11:20:55 2008. Umm, No thanks, you seem to like giving up your freedoms...probably the best place for you would be Saudia Arabia...I personally don't want the dictatorship to come in full swing here in America, so i'll stay...I will try to save this country...just because you think everything is good doesn't mean it is good... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Aug 25 11:26:22 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 11:02:50 2008. Psychiatric help won't help this person, Jeff. He needs a LOT more than that...got some bananas for him? :-D |
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Posted by Dan on Mon Aug 25 11:29:25 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 10:12:17 2008. If Obama loses, he loses, period. He'll go back to Illinois. Let's be real here. |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Aug 25 11:30:58 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 11:02:50 2008. You're arguing with a man who thinks Stalin was a role model. I say you leave this puppy alone.However, he makes a great case study for the Left, doesn't he? :D |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Aug 25 11:35:43 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 25 05:48:44 2008. The country will become more divided than it already is. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 11:38:17 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Aug 25 11:30:58 2008. However, he makes a great case study for the Left, doesn't he?That portion of the Left that thinks that Stalin was overall a positive character in world history. It's been a long time since most left-wing radicals believed that. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:00:11 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 10:32:29 2008. Heck, I think we need Al Gore...Oh god no, he's more of a nightmare than Obama. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:03:09 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 10:52:09 2008. No it's because of your conspiracy theory. The Bush administration blew up the WTC, I mean really. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:04:58 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 11:38:17 2008. That portion of the Left that thinks that Stalin was overall a positive character in world history. It's been a long time since most left-wing radicals believed that.Yes, there are a good number of people in the left that would live socialism to creep in. The extreme left are just as dangerous as the Religious extreme right. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:05:16 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 11:38:17 2008. That portion of the Left that thinks that Stalin was overall a positive character in world history. It's been a long time since most left-wing radicals believed that.Yes, there are a good number of people in the left that would love socialism to creep in. The extreme left are just as dangerous as the Religious extreme right. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:07:00 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Aug 25 11:35:43 2008. Well the not only is there left and right partisanism, there is also a split in the Democratic party right now. The splitting and sides is worse than ever. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 12:09:20 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:05:16 2008. I am also against extreme leftism...You guys just don't understand me...And I never said Stalin was a role model, all I really say is that he wasn't as bad as the propoganda tries to make him seem...But he DID have issues...and I don't agree with everything he did...but many things he did were good... |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 12:10:09 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:05:16 2008. Yes, there are a good number of people in the left that would love socialism to creep in.Agreed. But there is a world of difference between approving of socialism (government ownership of the means of production) and approving of Stalin. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 12:10:30 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 12:03:09 2008. They let it slide by them...and the outcome was convenient for them... I am not sure...there will always be speculation...but it is a possibility... |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 12:15:35 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 12:10:09 2008. I never approved of Stalin...I was just saying he wasn't as evil as the propoganda made him seem...like I said, he HAD issues, and did some BAD things...but he also did some GOOD things...but at a great cost...It seems Bush is doing everything that is BAD. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 12:24:15 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 12:15:35 2008. ["I never approved of Stalin...I was just saying he wasn't as evil as the propoganda made him seem..."]
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Aug 25 12:25:40 2008, in response to What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 04:58:48 2008. Then he'll have to write a concession speech, just like all candidates who lose an election... |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Aug 25 13:39:31 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 05:17:02 2008. Why is it that your entire premise here seems to be "Obama supporters are violent"? According to you if Obama wins there will be riots, if he loses there will be riots? Are you trying to tell us that you think a certain subsect of his supporters, perhaps of a given racial makeup, would be likely to riot? Instead of being a little pussy about this why don't you just come out and say it, you're a racist. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 13:41:58 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 12:09:20 2008. Please name them in order of goodness. Or better yet, find a nice Russian couple in their 80s or 90s to tell you ONE good thing about his dictatorship.Russian history books are not kind to him at all, and these are books written in Russia, by Russians. Deja-vu... |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Aug 25 13:43:45 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 11:03:40 2008. I guess "Americans" must only mean "White upper and upper middle class men born in the US or its territories, making more than 500,000 dollars per year with a stake in an oil, automobile, or defense contractor concern." |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 13:45:50 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 11:15:14 2008. You have the makings of a point; unfortunately, you mix in enough crap to make yourself come off as a complete moron that no one wants to listen to. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 13:47:06 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 13:41:58 2008. Please name them in order of goodness.1. He got his army to keep the Germans occupied so that we could successfully invade Normandy. Hmm. I can't think of a #2. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 13:47:31 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 05:35:56 2008. They dod the same in NYC for the 2004 RNC. What's your point? It's the new America, free speech for those in power, you might be a terrorist if you don't like it. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 13:52:09 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Dan on Mon Aug 25 11:29:25 2008. I don't expect anything worse than the 2000 election. I do have to laugh at McCain's newest ad, poking Oprahbama's not picking Hillary Clinton with her '18 million votes'. Didn't seem to matter in 2000 when George II got 500k fewer votes, and was still appointed president. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Aug 25 13:54:42 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 13:52:09 2008. Maybe McCain thought it would have been easier for him running against Clinton than Obama for November. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 13:59:14 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by WillD on Mon Aug 25 13:43:45 2008. I guess "Americans" must only mean "White upper and upper middle class men born in the US or its territories, making more than 500,000 dollars per year with a stake in an oil, automobile, or defense contractor concern."Please stop with the racial crap. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 14:00:42 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Aug 25 13:54:42 2008. I don't know about that, but if anything an Obama-Hillary ticket would have been a stronger ticket than Obama-Biden. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 14:40:17 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 13:41:58 2008. He brought better education, healthcare, he actually SUPPORTED the arts like painting, and ballet, and so on...and also, he brought industry to the USSR...like I said, not everything he did was good, but the good came at a high price... |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 14:53:13 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 14:00:42 2008. I don't know about that, but if anything an Obama-Hillary ticket would have been a stronger ticket than Obama-Biden.You underestimate the ability of Bill Clinton to screw things up. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 25 14:54:31 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 11:03:40 2008. Sorry, Jeff.If Barack loses, America puts up the same BS we've had from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for the last 8 years. McCain is Shrub in an old suit. Better look at who McCain picks for his Veep. Odds are that person will finish the term. McCain is totally unlikely to do 8 years. McCain is considering a woman as the VP candidate. If he does, that's the "third rail" of American Presidential politics. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:16:08 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 25 10:04:41 2008. the expectation level this time, is about 1,000 times greater. no? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:17:37 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Aug 25 11:35:43 2008. exactly. if Obama loses, that won't be the end of it. not even close. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:18:45 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by MJF on Mon Aug 25 09:17:56 2008. nope. just addressing the November election with a realistic outlook. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:23:03 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by WillD on Mon Aug 25 13:39:31 2008. Did you read the article? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 25 15:24:24 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 05:17:02 2008. Nah, that only happens in Det-RIOT :) |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 25 15:24:57 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:23:03 2008. Hmm, typical non-answer. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 25 15:58:36 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by WillD on Mon Aug 25 13:39:31 2008. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I could have not said it better myself. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 25 16:11:17 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:23:03 2008. I read the article and it says NOTHING about race riots if Barack loses. That statement is only your twisted logic and should McCain win, I will throw that statement back in your face, loser! |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 16:21:10 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 14:40:17 2008. That's the same argument used to justify a certain german dictator. If the price of progress is MILLIONS of lives, then is it really progress? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 16:22:34 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 14:40:17 2008. Additionally, the industrial revolution would have reached Russia no matter who was in charge. Russian arts were already world-class when he came to power. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 16:24:18 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 14:00:42 2008. I like the idea that he brought in one of his harshest critics from the primaries to be his VP. And picking Clinton would drag in all of Bill's wrongs. Clinton would have been a bad choice; not terrible, but bad. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 16:25:21 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 25 16:11:17 2008. I didn't say anything about race riot. People like Will D are putting words in my mouth. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 25 16:26:01 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 25 13:59:14 2008. Yeah, the statement should just read:"upper and upper middle class men born in the US or its territories, making more than 500,000 dollars per year with a stake in an oil, automobile, or defense contractor concern." |
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Posted by MJF on Mon Aug 25 16:33:22 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:18:45 2008. I don't think it's a realistic outlook. It's just YOUR outlook. It's the persona you set forth on this board. |
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Posted by MJF on Mon Aug 25 16:38:41 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 15:18:45 2008. If I didn't make it clear in previous posts, I'm not saying that there WON'T be any rioting. There could be. I simply think that any mayhem will be sporadic and isolated and delat with swiftly by the police. It's really a non-issue to me. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 16:38:57 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by MJF on Mon Aug 25 16:33:22 2008. then you didn't read the article about potential riots, and the posts on that website. It's not just me thinking it's possible. And as we get closer to November, depending on the mood, it could become an even bigger issue.recreate68 is one example of a group that wants to create public unrest around all this. |
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Posted by MJF on Mon Aug 25 16:44:02 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 16:38:57 2008. I'm really not intersted in reading the article. poptential is just that. Potential. It might happen and it might not. Meanwhile, I'm not going to get myself all worked up in August about the potential for riots in November. It's not a worthwhile talking point. Leave that for the police. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 25 16:51:32 2008, in response to Re: What if Barack Loses in November?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 25 16:25:21 2008. I didn't say anything about race riot.Well, OK, you referred to the possibility of riots, which you implied would be in black communities, if Obama loses. You didn't literally call them race riots, but hypothetical riots of that sort usually are referred to by that term. "And Austin Hill has an article somewhere on the possibility of riots. I have to find that. I don't know yet about the riots, but there could be problems. I fully expect law enforcement to be on alert on Election Day. And if McCain is announced winner, I think there will be a strong police presence in black communities. Does anyone here not think the police won't be on alert if Obama loses?" |
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