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Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024

Doesn't Mr. Softee know that Chinese are lactose intolerant?

I wonder how real lactose intolerance is anyway? Most people pass the test.

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 22 19:38:12 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

Mr Softee would be a great name for an ED medication!

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Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 22 19:46:32 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

I wonder how real lactose intolerance is anyway?

If you really have it, it's very real. One member of my family gets serious diarrhea any time he has milk products.



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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 22 19:48:08 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

OUT HERE ITS CALLED FOSTER FREEZE SOFT SERVE

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 20:59:03 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by AlM on Sat Jun 22 19:46:32 2024.

I believe you.

Overall most people are self-diagnosed.

Dairy companies have fought back. Especially in California. They would get permission to set up a table at a supermarket and ask customers to volunteer to be tested to see if they are really lactose intolerant. It favored the dairy farmers, but still isn't helping their cause.




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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 22 21:13:14 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 22 19:38:12 2024.

Then it should be Mr. Hardee!

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 22 21:18:05 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

Most Asian children, up to and including teenagers, can eat ice cream. Lactose intolerance usually increases as one gets older.

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 23:50:35 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 22 21:18:05 2024.

Interesting. Never knew Asian kids could enjoy dairy but not adults.

I guess lactose intolerance decreasing with age applies to Europeans too?

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 23 05:52:57 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

What is interesting, If that is case, then why do many Chineses restaurants serve ice cream for dessert?

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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 23 08:50:59 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

"A 2020 BBC article estimated that 92% of Chinese adults have trouble digesting lactose, and a 2023 Food Navigator article says that 85% of Chinese people are lactose intolerant. China's preventative medicine agency also estimates that 40% of children aged 11 to 13 have lost the ability to digest lactose."

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 23 10:15:46 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

I don't know if I am lactose intolerant or not. I don't drink milk. But I do eat ice cream. However when I started drinking my coffee black my digestion improved 100%. No morning runs!! But I do like whipped cream in my Irish coffee yet that doesn't seem to affect me, but then I certainly don't have Irish coffee as much as regular coffee.
BTW, I'm old enough to remember this!!



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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 23 10:25:10 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 23 10:15:46 2024.

Cool commercials.




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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 23 10:28:41 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Sun Jun 23 05:52:57 2024.

Business decision?

My guess is Chinese restaurants serve ice cream for the European ancestry customers who are still the majority in many places.





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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 23 15:18:21 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 23 10:28:41 2024.

The Chinese restaurants of yore basically catered to "round eye", so they got ice cream for them

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jun 23 15:30:51 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 23:50:35 2024.

That depends. Europeans are more likely to have the mutation which allows them to keep producing lactase (the enzyme to break down lactose) into adulthood, because they've depended on dairy as a regular food source for a LONG time. Typically, children produce it to break down the lactose in mother's milk, but in theory shouldn't need it anymore once they're weaned.

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jun 23 15:35:57 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 23 10:15:46 2024.

Huh, I never knew that there were commercials, or that the music had words. That music is an iconic part of my childhood summers!

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Jun 23 18:22:05 2024, in response to Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 22 19:22:17 2024.

Side note: What's the point of passing laws that never get enforced? There's been a truck operating at this location 12/7/365 for years. Everyone who crosses the street here gets blasted with smelly exhaust fumes.





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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Jun 23 18:58:12 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Jun 23 18:22:05 2024.

The truck is about 18 feet long. The window, where the ice cream is sold, is probably about 10 feet from the back of the truck. Technically, the truck might be within the regulation or off by just inches.

It's part of the Administrative Code for vendors. Are there any restrictions in the NYC Traffic Regulations?

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 23 19:44:03 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Jun 23 18:22:05 2024.

The police get a cone on the arm, so he's left alone

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 23 20:06:47 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Jun 23 18:22:05 2024.

Maybe they're laundering money? That has to be a great way to do it.

Not sure about the laws being enforced. About 10 years ago when food trucks were at their peak in popularity, they were complaining about NYC's strict enforcement of rules and regulations. A vegan truck, The Cinnamon Snail, said it was getting too difficult and opened a small restaurant.

Mr. Softee might do well staying in one location. Once people see him enough in one place, they know where to go when craving ice cream.

I always thought someone should park one on Woodhaven Blvd in Rego Park next to the cemetery. There already is famous Domenic's hot dogs, and an Italian sausage vendor there.







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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 23 20:15:38 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 23 20:06:47 2024.

The Italian sausage vendor is GREAT

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Jun 24 00:30:42 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Jun 23 18:58:12 2024.

IANAL, but this is what ChatGPT 3.5 says (and yes, I know that it tends to "hallucinate" or confabulate, so I always take its output with a grain of salt):
Based on the regulation you mentioned and further clarifications from NYC's mobile food vending rules, no part of the food truck, including the rear, should be within ten feet of any crosswalk at any intersection. This rule is intended to ensure pedestrian safety and unobstructed movement.

Clarification of the Rule:

  • 10-Foot Rule: The regulation explicitly states that no part of the food vending operation should be within ten feet of any crosswalk at any intersection. This means both the vending window and any part of the vehicle, including the rear, must comply with this rule.

Impact on an 18-Foot Truck:

  • For an 18-foot-long truck, the entire truck must be positioned in such a way that its closest point (whether it is the rear or front) is at least ten feet away from the crosswalk. This positioning ensures that the truck does not encroach on the safety buffer zone established by the regulation.

Specific Regulation:

  • Source: The NYC Traffic Rules, Section 4-08 (h)(8), states: "No food vendor shall vend within any bus stop, taxi stand, within the portion of the sidewalk abutting any no standing zone adjacent to a hospital as defined in subdivision one of section 2801 of the New York state public health law, within ten feet of any driveway, any subway entrance or exit, or any crosswalk at any intersection"​ (Welcome to NYC.gov | City of New York)​.


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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Jun 24 01:52:19 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 23 10:15:46 2024.

Yeah, I remember that too!

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Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 24 07:29:13 2024, in response to Re: Ice cream trucks in Flushing and other Chinese neighborhoods, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Jun 24 00:30:42 2024.

IANAL

Neither am I. I was a systems engineer and had to read device specifications to determine whether said devices could be used for a certain application.

this is what ChatGPT 3.5 says (and yes, I know that it tends to "hallucinate" or confabulate, so I always take its output with a grain of salt

I think a ton of salt would be more appropriate. :=)

Here's a link to NYC's Traffic Rules.

https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/newyorkcity/latest/NYCrules/0-0-0-63770

The NYC Traffic Rules, Section 4-08 (h)(8), states: "No food vendor shall vend within any bus stop, taxi stand, within the portion of the sidewalk abutting any no standing zone adjacent to a hospital as defined in subdivision one of section 2801 of the New York state public health law, within ten feet of any driveway, any subway entrance or exit, or any crosswalk at any intersection"​

Actually this section has been renumbered in the June 2024 (current) version in the link. It's section 4-08 (h)(7). This is also true for the link that you provided for the April 15, 2020 version.

First: qualifications for items in section 4-08(h)

(h) On-street and off-street metered zones.

This means that any subsection is limited to metered zones, whether on-street or off-street.

Second: the exact text of section 4-08(h)(7):

(7) Displaying, selling or offering merchandise for sale prohibited. No peddler or vendor shall park a vehicle at a metered parking space for purposes of displaying, selling, storing or offering merchandise for sale from the vehicle.

(bold type for emphasis). This is the same text that appears in the April 15, 2020 version in your link.

It would appear ChatGPT 3.5 fabricated "facts", when it was challenged to provide further documentation.

You will note that the traffic regulation uses "park" rather than "vend" in describing the prohibited action. This is in keeping with a traffic rule.

FWIW, the picture for the E 14th St & Kings Hwy location, is metered. There still is some wiggle room, in the "parking" definition.

Section 4-08 (a)(4):

(4) Parking prohibited. When parking is prohibited by signs or rules, no person shall stop a vehicle, attended or unattended, except temporarily for the purpose of and while expeditiously receiving or discharging passengers or loading of unloading property to or from the curb.

My experience has been that the NYC Traffic Rules are more ambiguous, compared to the NYS VTL.


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