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Lloyd Austin

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 12:58:27 2024

For you Constitution geniuses. Has any protocol been broken? And besides Lloyd Austin's health, does anyone think this really a big deal over nothing. And a speedy recovery to Lloyd Austin.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jan 8 13:05:26 2024, in response to Lloyd Austin, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 12:58:27 2024.

He received a pass from congress to get where he is.

There were many more qualified generals that could have been named but,

well, we know the reason......

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 8 16:10:37 2024, in response to Lloyd Austin, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 12:58:27 2024.

The Constitution is a set of laws, not "protocols".

There is no "secretary of defense" in the Constitution; we've only had that since 1947. The POTUS is the Commander-in-Chief of US armed forces (Article II Section 2 Clause 1); the post is currently vacant due to being held by a usurper.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 8 16:56:36 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 8 16:10:37 2024.

You are nucken futs!!!

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 8 17:31:24 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 8 16:56:36 2024.

And he also knows nothing about the Constitution.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 17:53:23 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 8 16:10:37 2024.

They were known as the secretary of war. And there is not a damn thing wrong with word protocol.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 8 18:10:22 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 17:53:23 2024.

In any event, “Secretary of War” isn’t in the Constitution either, so his point is incoherent as usual.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 8 18:16:50 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 8 18:10:22 2024.

Which cabinet posts are?

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 8 18:23:24 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 8 18:16:50 2024.

None.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 8 18:33:29 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 17:53:23 2024.

Did I say there was something wrong with the word "protocol"? No. Just that you weren't applying it in the right context; it refers to diplomacy. Stop trying to put words in people's mouths.

The first secretary of war was an appointed position; George Washington appointed Henry Knox as the first in 1789 after his inauguration.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 8 18:34:29 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 8 18:10:22 2024.

LOL, my point doesn't become "incoherent" merely because you want it to be incoherent. Are you scared to say that his question was a bit incoherent?

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Re: Lloyd Austin Rumor has it...

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jan 9 07:44:13 2024, in response to Lloyd Austin, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 12:58:27 2024.

A rumor, and ONLY a RUMOR that Sec. Lloyd Austin in an

attempt to placate Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has volunteered to

be circumcised by an orthodox Moyle. ONLY a RUMOR.

Afterward, when it was found out the Moyle is gay, and had herpes,

Sec. Lloyd Austin collapsed. ONLY a RUMOR



HE HAD WHAT?



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Re: Lloyd Austin Rumor has it...

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 08:11:43 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin Rumor has it..., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jan 9 07:44:13 2024.

Not funny.

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Re: Lloyd Austin

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 9 08:13:25 2024, in response to Lloyd Austin, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 12:58:27 2024.

Nothing contrary to the Constitution here.

Just generally questionable conduct by an employee. Who wouldn't tell their boss, or their principal deputy, that they were going to be in the hospital?



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Re: Lloyd Austin Rumor has it...

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jan 9 08:36:09 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin Rumor has it..., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 08:11:43 2024.

Rumors never are!

chuckle chuckle chuckle

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Re: Lloyd Austin—Rumor has it…

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 9 13:42:40 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin Rumor has it..., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jan 9 07:44:13 2024.

circumcised by an orthodox Moyle

An Irish orthodox priest?!?

Perhaps you meant a mohel?

(JFTR, the Irish name Moyle is derived from Gaelic maol, which means "bald".)

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Lloyd Austin has prostate cancer

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 9 15:01:05 2024, in response to Lloyd Austin, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 12:58:27 2024.

NBC News

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin diagnosed with prostate cancer

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was diagnosed with prostate cancer in December and underwent a minimally invasive procedure to treat and cure it, according to a statement from Walter Reed National Military Center officials on Tuesday.

The news comes days after the Pentagon admitted that Austin had been hospitalized since Jan. 1, but took days to inform the White House and key Pentagon officials.

The cancer was discovered after a routine prostate screening and was revealed in lab tests in early December, Walter Reed officials said. The surgical procedure he underwent on Dec. 22 was a prostatectomy, and Austin was “under general anesthesia” during it.

“Secretary Austin recovered uneventfully from his surgery and returned home the next morning. His prostate cancer was detected early, and his prognosis is excellent,” the officials said.

Austin, 70, was then admitted to Walter Reed on Jan. 1 “with complications from the December 22 procedure, including nausea with severe abdominal, hip, and leg pain,” the officials said.

An initial evaluation found that he had a urinary tract infection and on Jan. 2, a decision was made to transfer Austin to the intensive care unit for “close monitoring and a higher level of care,” the statement said.

Doctors then discovered that Austin had “abdominal fluid collections impairing the function of his small intestines.”

“This resulted in the back up of his intestinal contents which was treated by placing a tube through his nose to drain his stomach,” the officials added. “The abdominal fluid collections were drained by non-surgical drain placement. He has progressed steadily throughout his stay.”

Officials said in the statement that Austin’s “infection has cleared” and “he continues to make progress and we anticipate a full recovery although this can be a slow process.” They said that during his hospitalization, Austin “never lost consciousness and never underwent general anesthesia.”

At a press briefing Tuesday immediately after the statement was released, Pentagon press secretary Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder told reporters that the secretary “continues to recover well and is in good spirits.” He said the department will be releasing daily status updates about his condition. Ryder said he has not spoken with Austin and did not know why he hadn’t shared details about his illness earlier, but called prostate cancer and its treatments “deeply personal.”

When asked if Austin would have to take a step back from his duties as defense chief such as a rigorous travel schedule, Ryder said Austin “continues to monitor DoD’s operations worldwide” and “is actively engaged in his duties.”

The revelation about Austin’s condition is a new development after the defense secretary and several of his aides waited days to notify the White House and key Pentagon officials that he was hospitalized for complications following what was described as “an elective medical procedure.”

The public didn’t know he was hospitalized until Friday evening when Pentagon press secretary Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder said in a statement that Austin had been admitted to the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Monday night for “complications following a recent elective medical procedure,” though he didn’t specify what the procedure was.

The Defense Department didn’t tell senior officials at the National Security Council about the secretary’s hospitalization until Thursday.

On Tuesday, a day after he was admitted, some of the secretary’s duties were transferred to Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks who was on vacation in Puerto Rico. She was not told, however, about Austin’s hospitalization until Thursday, a senior defense official said Sunday.

On Monday, Ryder told reporters that he was informed about Austin’s hospitalization on Jan. 2, a day after he was admitted and two days before President Joe Biden and national security adviser Jake Sullivan were told. Ryder briefed reporters on camera on Thursday and did not disclose the secretary’s continued hospitalization. He did not provide further details — including whether he was directed not to tell anyone.

Ryder also said Monday that the Pentagon’s lawyers were reviewing whether any laws were broken during this failure to notify U.S. leaders and Congress.

This all occurred as tensions continued to intensify in the Middle East, including a rare and controversial strike by the U.S. against a senior Iranian-backed militia member in Baghdad.


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Re: Lloyd Austin has prostate cancer

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 15:40:12 2024, in response to Lloyd Austin has prostate cancer, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 9 15:01:05 2024.

Hoping for a speedy recovery.

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Re: Lloyd Austin has prostate cancer

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 9 17:41:29 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin has prostate cancer, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 15:40:12 2024.

Agreed. That's a particularly deadly form still.

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Re: Lloyd Austin—Rumor has it…

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jan 10 08:39:59 2024, in response to Re: Lloyd Austin—Rumor has it…, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 9 13:42:40 2024.

Perhaps you meant a mohel?

You may be VERY correct as I was familiar with the pronunciation, but not the actual spelling.

But, I see you got my drift.

Thanks for shining a light on the subject.



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