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NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 14:17:02 2023

Let’s go, Brandon, out the door . . . you lost the Beobachter Slimes

Trump Leads in 5 Critical States as Voters Blast Biden, Times/Siena Poll Finds

President Biden is trailing Donald J. Trump in five of the six most important battleground states one year before the 2024 election, suffering from enormous doubts about his age and deep dissatisfaction over his handling of the economy and a host of other issues, new polls by The New York Times and Siena College have found.

The results show Mr. Biden losing to Mr. Trump, his likeliest Republican rival, by margins of three to 10 percentage points among registered voters in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Pennsylvania. Mr. Biden is ahead only in Wisconsin, by two percentage points, the poll found.

Across the six battlegrounds — all of which Mr. Biden carried in 2020 — the president trails by an average of 48 to 44 percent.

Discontent pulsates throughout the Times/Siena poll, with a majority of voters saying Mr. Biden’s policies have personally hurt them. The survey also reveals the extent to which the multiracial and multigenerational coalition that elected Mr. Biden is fraying. Demographic groups that backed Mr. Biden by landslide margins in 2020 are now far more closely contested, as two-thirds of the electorate sees the country moving in the wrong direction.

Voters under 30 favor Mr. Biden by only a single percentage point, his lead among Hispanic voters is down to single digits and his advantage in urban areas is half of Mr. Trump’s edge in rural regions. And while women still favored Mr. Biden, men preferred Mr. Trump by twice as large a margin, reversing the gender advantage that had fueled so many Democratic gains in recent years.

Black voters — long a bulwark for Democrats and for Mr. Biden — are now registering 22 percent support in these states for Mr. Trump, a level unseen in presidential politics for a Republican in modern times.

Add it all together, and Mr. Trump leads by 10 points in Nevada, six in Georgia, five in Arizona, five in Michigan and four in Pennsylvania. Mr. Biden held a 2-point edge in Wisconsin.

In a remarkable sign of a gradual racial realignment between the two parties, the more diverse the swing state, the farther Mr. Biden was behind, and he led only in the whitest of the six.

Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump are both deeply — and similarly — unpopular, according to the poll. But voters who overwhelmingly said the nation was on the wrong track are taking out their frustrations on the president.

“The world is falling apart under Biden,” said Spencer Weiss, a 53-year-old electrical substation specialist in Bloomsburg, Pa., who supported Mr. Biden in 2020 but is now backing Mr. Trump, albeit with some reservations. “I would much rather see somebody that I feel can be a positive role-model leader for the country. But at least I think Trump has his wits about him.”

Mr. Biden still has a year to turn the situation around. Economic indicators are up even if voters do not agree with them. Mr. Trump remains polarizing. And Mr. Biden’s well-funded campaign will aim to shore up his demographic weak spots. The president’s advisers have repeatedly noted that Democrats successfully limited the party’s losses in 2022 despite Mr. Biden’s poor approval ratings at the time.

Still, the survey shows how Mr. Biden begins the next year at a deficit even though Mr. Trump has been indicted on criminal charges four times and faces trial in 2024. If the results in the poll were the same next November, Mr. Trump would be poised to win more than 300 Electoral College votes, far above the 270 needed to take the White House.

Another ominous sign for Democrats is that voters across all income levels felt that Mr. Biden’s policies had hurt them personally, while they credited Mr. Trump’s policies for helping them. The results were mirror opposites: Voters gave Mr. Trump a 17-point advantage for having helped them and Mr. Biden a 18-point disadvantage for having hurt them.

For Mr. Biden, who turns 81 later this month, being the oldest president in American history stands out as a glaring liability. An overwhelming 71 percent said he was “too old” to be an effective president — an opinion shared across every demographic and geographic group in the poll, including a remarkable 54 percent of Mr. Biden’s own supporters.

In contrast, only 19 percent of supporters of Mr. Trump, who is 77, viewed him as too old, and 39 percent of the electorate overall.

Concerns about the president’s advancing age and mental acuity — 62 percent also said Mr. Biden does not have the “mental sharpness” to be effective — are just the start of a sweeping set of Biden weaknesses in the survey results.

Voters, by a 59 percent to 37 percent margin, said they better trusted Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on the economy, the largest gap of any issue. The preference for Mr. Trump on economic matters spanned the electorate, among both men and women, those with college degrees and those without them, every age range and every income level.

That result is especially problematic for Mr. Biden because nearly twice as many voters said economic issues would determine their 2024 vote compared with social issues, such as abortion or guns. And those economic voters favored Mr. Trump by a landslide 60 percent to 32 percent.

The findings come after Mr. Biden’s campaign has run millions of dollars in ads promoting his record, and as the president continues to tour the country to brag about the state of the economy. “Folks, Bidenomics is just another way of saying the American dream!” Mr. Biden declared on Wednesday on a trip to Minnesota.

Voters clearly disagree. Only 2 percent of voters said the economy was excellent.

Voters under 30 — a group that strongly voted for Mr. Biden in 2020 — said they trusted Mr. Trump more on the economy by an extraordinary 28 percentage-point margin after years of inflation and now high interest rates that have made mortgages far less affordable. Less than one percent of poll respondents under 30 rated the current economy as excellent, including zero poll respondents in that age group in three states: Arizona, Nevada and Wisconsin.

“I actually had high hopes for Biden,” said Jahmerry Henry, a 25-year-old who packages liquor in Albany, Ga. “You can’t be worse than Trump. But then as the years go by, things happen with inflation, the war going on in Ukraine, recently Israel and I guess our borders are not secure at all.”

Now Mr. Henry plans to back Mr. Trump.

“I don’t see anything that he has done to benefit us,” said Patricia Flores, 39, of Reno, Nev., who voted for Mr. Biden in 2020 but won’t support him again in 2024.

In 2020, Mr. Biden’s path to victory had been rebuilding the so-called blue wall in the Rust Belt states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and then expanding the map in the diversifying Sun Belt states of Arizona and Georgia.

The poll shows that Mr. Biden is notably stronger in the industrial northern states than in the more diverse Sun Belt.

And his vulnerabilities stretch across an expansive set of issues.

Voters preferred Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on immigration by 12 points, on national security by 12 points and on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by 11 points. And though a 58 percent majority supported more economic and military aid to Ukraine — which aligns with Mr. Biden’s policy — that did not seem to benefit the president on broader questions of fitness to handle foreign affairs.

“I don’t think he’s the right guy to go toe to toe with these other world leaders that don’t respect him or fear him,” said Travis Waterman, 33, who worked in home restoration in Phoenix. He voted for Mr. Biden in 2020 but sees him as “weak” now and prefers Mr. Trump.

The gender gap on national security was enormous. Men preferred Mr. Trump 62 percent to 33 percent; women preferred Mr. Biden 47 to 46 percent.

Mr. Biden’s strongest issue was abortion, where voters trusted him over Mr. Trump by nine percentage points. Mr. Biden also maintained the trust of voters by an even slimmer margin of three points over Mr. Trump on the more amorphous handling of “democracy.”

Mr. Biden has survived poor showings in polls before. In fact, in October 2022 in the run-up to the midterm elections, the president’s job approval rating was nearly the same as it is now. His party still managed to lose fewer seats than expected in the House and gained one seat in the Senate, in part by painting Republican candidates as extremists.

Today, the degree to which voters are turned off by Mr. Trump’s personality and bombast — which has been the glue helping keep together a fractious Democratic coalition for years — appears to have waned. Only 46 percent of voters said Mr. Biden had the proper temperament to be president, barely higher than the 43 percent who said the same of Mr. Trump. That said, Mr. Trump will be more in the spotlight in 2024, including his criminal trials, a growing presence that could remind voters why they were repelled by him in the first place.


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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 14:43:29 2023, in response to NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 14:17:02 2023.

Don't forget, 2024 Election Day is far off, and the shens will be in full effect by then.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 14:45:28 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 14:43:29 2023.

They're way beyond "shens". No need to soft-peddle the language.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 15:00:05 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 14:45:28 2023.

They wa t Trump in jail, and off the ballot. In case that doesn't work, they'll beg Big Mike to run, and I hate to say it, but "he" will beat Trump. If they can't get "him", it's back to the 2020 Ace in the hole, COVID! and the restrictions and tamper-proof mail-in votes that come with it.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 15:00:09 2023, in response to NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 14:17:02 2023.

Anybody still voting for septuagenarians and octogenarians should stop voting entirely.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 15:06:16 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 15:00:09 2023.

There's a Babylonbee skit about that very subject!

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 15:14:00 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 15:00:05 2023.

Your post went off the rails at the end.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 15:14:30 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 15:00:09 2023.

Those are the only two choices. Our parties are horrible.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 15:16:48 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 15:14:00 2023.

If Trump is still on the ballot, not in Jail, Big Mike declining to run, they will go with that as another strategy.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 15:22:46 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 15:16:48 2023.

No, they won’t.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Nov 5 15:29:54 2023, in response to NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 14:17:02 2023.

Iawtlp

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 16:35:38 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 15:00:05 2023.

No, "the Wookiee" has even less of a chance.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 16:37:55 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 15:00:09 2023.

What good did voting for quadrogenarians and quintogenarians get us? Just more socialism. Nothing to do with age.

Did ypu stop voting?

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by rkba on Sun Nov 5 17:13:59 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 14:43:29 2023.

whatever it takes to stop the orange man!

orange man bad! orange man bad!

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:25:22 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 16:37:55 2023.

Yeah, I tend not to vote for boomers either. Especially the ones out here that have been in office for decades screwing things up. I'll vote for a police defunding progressive before I'll vote for them. At least it's something different.

Or I'll just skip he contest. There is no reasonable scenario where I'll cast a vote for Biden or Trump to be President.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 17:27:53 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:25:22 2023.

There is no reasonable scenario where I'll cast a vote for Biden or Trump to be President.

That is really, really scary.




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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:30:56 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 15:14:30 2023.

It's worse than that. Our political system is broken at every level. At least from my corrupt part of the US.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:32:51 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 17:27:53 2023.

Why does me voting for who I want scare you?

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 18:01:25 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:25:22 2023.

You'd still vote for Mad Maxine to be POTUS?

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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 18:28:04 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:32:51 2023.

You will not be alone among middle of the road voters who disdain Biden enough that they will risk four more years of Trump.



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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Nov 5 18:43:23 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 15:00:09 2023.

Why? fuck that ageism!!

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 19:01:06 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 15:22:46 2023.

How would they keep Trump from winning?

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:01:52 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 18:28:04 2023.

Four more years of Biden/Harris would be a disaster for this country.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:03:38 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:25:22 2023.

You would rather watch the world burn.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:04:16 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:01:52 2023.

Four more years of Trump would be fatal for this country.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:06:59 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:30:56 2023.

No, it isn’t. It’s flawed but not broken.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 19:08:44 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:04:16 2023.

Four more years of either is us circling the drain. I think that we've peaked as a nation no matter what. The future belongs to Asia.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:10:03 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:25:22 2023.

How many “ quadrogenarians and quintogenarians” are boomers?

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:12:12 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 19:08:44 2023.

Fatalistic nonsense.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:12:18 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 19:08:44 2023.

Biden has been a good president and America is booming and back leading the Western the World.

The future only belongs to Asia if Americans keep looking inward and away from the rest of the world. “America First” is a euphemism for China first. The Beijing-Moscow-Tehran Axis thanks you for your patriotism.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:13:02 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:12:12 2023.

Overly optimistic nonsense.

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:14:35 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:04:16 2023.

Who said anything about Trump? We need Biden to go more than Trump getting reelected.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:15:42 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:14:35 2023.

No, we don’t need Biden to go. He has been excellent.

What we do need to go is Mike Johnson as Speaker.

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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 19:19:26 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 19:08:44 2023.

The future belongs to Asia.

Xi has dynamited China's future with his commercial and military policies. Everyone now realizes that if they import from China their imports might someday be suddenly cut off, say if China invades Taiwan. That is going to put a huge dent into China's export economy.



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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 19:20:47 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:14:35 2023.

We need Biden to go more than Trump getting reelected.

Unless Biden suffers some serious or fatal health problem, the only way Biden goes is by Trump getting elected.




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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 5 20:06:57 2023, in response to NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 14:17:02 2023.

The Left will be mad about election results this Tuesday when abortion does well.

When Chauvin wins an appeal, it will also re-energize the Left.





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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 20:10:57 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 5 20:06:57 2023.

Why would the left be mad about baby murder doing well?

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:07:46 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 5 16:35:38 2023.

In all seriousness, she would beat Trump soley based on who she is.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 21:10:58 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:07:46 2023.

Now that I know whom you’re talking about, your whole post was off the rails.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:11:06 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 17:25:22 2023.

Police defunding progressive is an oxymoron. You've been out there too long.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:11:51 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 5 19:01:52 2023.

Correct

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:12:14 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 18:28:04 2023.

Trump is the better choice.

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 21:17:25 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:12:14 2023.

Trump is by far the worst choice.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:17:41 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:04:16 2023.

No. It'll be a non-stop meltdown

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:20:00 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:12:18 2023.

OMG, you don't really think that about biden!

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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 21:24:25 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 5 19:19:26 2023.

China is going to struggle mightily with maintaining the phenomenal amount of infrastructure they've built over the last decade. They are going to decline. But India is rising. Japan, Korea, the Middle East will all be rising.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:24:48 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:15:42 2023.

Holy shit, there's NO WAY you can think that. The man can't even say a sentence!!

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:26:34 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 19:10:03 2023.

The oldest Boomers are 77

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 21:26:52 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 5 21:20:00 2023.

Yes I do! BIDENOMICS!

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Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 5 21:27:49 2023, in response to Re: NY Times/Siena Poll: Trump leads Biden in five out of six battleground states, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 5 21:17:25 2023.

Because of personality and cultist followers. Politics-wise for me they're similar.

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