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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 19:53:43 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 18 19:41:16 2023. At best I would say Jeff Rosen is in between. He definitely doesn’t belong on a list with people like bingboing. He strikes me as generally right of center, but on issues like those involving LGBT, abortion, etc. he tends to side with the Democrats with the caveats that (1) none require him to participate where he is uncomfortable and (2) he would personally try to counsel the woman on all possible alternatives but would not compel her to follow what he says.For example, I don’t think he believes that same sex marriage makes his marriage to a woman any less valid. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:12:34 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 19:53:43 2023. I definitely don't side with the Democrats on abortion. I have always believed abortion is killing and should be illegal, even with rape and incest. My only exception is to save the life of the mother. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 18 20:12:57 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 18 19:41:16 2023. Quite correct. IAWTLP |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 18 20:15:25 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:12:34 2023. Very good. Iawtlp. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 20:17:16 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 18 19:41:16 2023. No, he’s not. He’s the most archetypal conservative. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 18 20:17:39 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 20:17:16 2023. Lol |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 18 20:23:28 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 18 20:15:25 2023. There is no case where abortion saves the life of the mother. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:31:46 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 18 00:30:11 2022. Fuck you. I'm probably more conservative than you. I just happen to think instead of going with the flow and being one way. I happen to look at both sides of every issue and put myself in the shoes of the side I'm against to see their reasoning. For instance when you acted surprised when I said I supported Meir Kahane shows you knew nothing about me, like I supported him in the letters to the editors to Newsday in the early 70's when he was jailed in Nassau and went on a hunger strike because they didn't give him Kosher food in jail.As a conservative I don't go along with the absolutely stupid denial of manmade climate change. I feel anyone who denies it is either stupid or brainwashed. I even support that chick Greta Thunberg. Same thing with the 2020 election. I voted for Trump twice and thought he did a good job as President even though I always knew he was a con-man. I thought a con-man might be what we needed. But when it was OBVIOUS he lost and became a sore loser bordering on criminal he lost all my support. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I SUPPORT BIDEN. I feel he is an incompetant President and a possible criminal. One CAN dislike both, no matter what people on both sides think. And whether you like it or not, you are a bigot. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Sep 18 20:40:17 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:12:34 2023. I have always believed abortion is killing ...Does that give you the right to impose your belief on others? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 20:50:15 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 18 20:23:28 2023. Fuck you. My sister would be dead if she did not have a D&C (the procedure that an abortion is) after she miscarried. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:56:58 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Sep 18 20:40:17 2023. YES, if I consider it murder. (anyway while I do believe I have that right where does it say that in my post? You just assumed. Remember what the Odd Couple says about "assume".) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 20:59:48 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:31:46 2023. Now try it again but replying to Chicago Motorman this time 😅 |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 21:01:07 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:12:34 2023. My apologies I must have misinterpreted one of your prior posts on the subject. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 21:01:19 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 20:50:15 2023. Where does he get that crap? Anyway I’m glad your sister is alive and well. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 21:01:52 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 21:01:19 2023. Have you seen the Ology of Terror? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 21:03:02 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 20:59:48 2023. OopsSorry Aim!! |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 21:03:53 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 21:01:19 2023. Yes. Pregnant with identical twins after having my second nephew after the miscarriage. 4 boys ages 3 years 1 month and under when they are born! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 21:04:46 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Sep 18 19:41:16 2023. Fuck you. I'm probably more conservative than you. I just happen to think instead of going with the flow and being one way. I happen to look at both sides of every issue and put myself in the shoes of the side I'm against to see their reasoning. For instance when you acted surprised when I said I supported Meir Kahane shows you knew nothing about me, like I supported him in the letters to the editors to Newsday in the early 70's when he was jailed in Nassau and went on a hunger strike because they didn't give him Kosher food in jail.As a conservative I don't go along with the absolutely stupid denial of manmade climate change. I feel anyone who denies it is either stupid or brainwashed. I even support that chick Greta Thunberg. Same thing with the 2020 election. I voted for Trump twice and thought he did a good job as President even though I always knew he was a con-man. I thought a con-man might be what we needed. But when it was OBVIOUS he lost and became a sore loser bordering on criminal he lost all my support. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I SUPPORT BIDEN. I feel he is an incompetant President and a possible criminal. One CAN dislike both, no matter what people on both sides think. And whether you like it or not, you are a bigot. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 18 21:26:39 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 21:04:46 2023. Donald Trump is the best candidate running. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 21:30:38 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 18 21:26:39 2023. Disagree. Nikki Haley seems intriguing if she were the nominee. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 21:48:32 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 18 21:26:39 2023. Donald Trump is the worst candidate running, although RFK Jr. gives him a run for his money. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 21:51:08 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 21:48:32 2023. Trump also beats out Vivek |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Sep 18 21:59:21 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 20:56:58 2023. ...while I do believe I have that right [to impose your belief on others] where does it say that in my post? You just assumed.You wrote: http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1954842 I have always believed abortion is killing and should be illegal You just assumed. Making abortion illegal, is imposing your belief or will on others. The nature of an abortion means it cannot concern yourself. It must concern somebody else - one of a different sex. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 18 22:00:23 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Sep 18 21:59:21 2023. Did you just assume his sex? They say men can have babies nowadays! |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 19 05:28:21 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 21:01:52 2023. Yes but this one seemed especially off the rails |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Sep 19 07:32:10 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 18:48:33 2023. There are tools even for amateurs. :-) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Sep 19 07:42:36 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 21:30:38 2023. I would like her a LOT more if she didn't kowtow so easily to the Trumpists. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 08:10:53 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 18 21:04:46 2023. Human beings cannot change the climate. That's absurd. And Greta Thunberg. is a punk.Yes Donald Trump is a sore loser, and yes he should have conceded and congratulated Biden. Biden is not the first to ever have the election stolen from him, and he won't be the last. And yes, the election was stolen. What happened on January 6, 2021 was a riot, not insurrection. And the rioters, should be punished, but no where near receive the draconian sentences that they got. And that you for your support of the late Meir Kahane. I commend you for it. And did you ever check out that website I provided you? |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 08:19:00 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 21:30:38 2023. If she is the nominee, I will hold more nose and vote for her. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 08:44:52 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 08:10:53 2023. 
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 19 08:52:03 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 08:10:53 2023. Good thing you don't have children. And only an asshole would call Greta thunberg a punk.The idiots who deny man made global warming:
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 19 08:56:40 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 08:10:53 2023. Raymond Shaw Is the Kindest, Bravest, Warmest, Most Wonderful Human Being I’ve Ever Known In My Life. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 19 09:27:14 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 08:19:00 2023. She us not my first choice or perhaps even my second choice at this point. That said, she's had experience as an executive and she's had experience in world politics. What makes her so terrible? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 19 09:36:50 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 19 08:52:03 2023. Climate change has become a religion. Greta Thunberg is a mentally deficient child who is being used as a false prophet. There is no proof that "man made" climate changes can be affected. It's much like solar eclipses where someone aware of them could convince followers that he can make the sun disappear. Will oceans rise and wash away great cities in 200 years? I'll let you know when it happens. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 19 09:41:01 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 08:10:53 2023. Why should you concede and congratulate a guy who said he cheated?We're not talking bush v gore here. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:04:45 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 08:44:52 2023. After I gave you the benefit of the doubt yesterday, this is how you respond? |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:05:57 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 19 09:36:50 2023. Absolutely, positively, one excellent post. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:07:48 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 19 08:52:03 2023. I believe in climate change. It's always changing. But humans have nothing to do with it.And you're welcome for my complimenting you on your support of Meir Kahne. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:09:08 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 19 09:41:01 2023. I believe also that Nixon did in fact beat Kennedy in 1960.You're point is well taken. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:17:11 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 19 09:27:14 2023. She blamed a flag for the murders done buy a punk |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 19 10:20:08 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 19 09:36:50 2023. But you and the other side, and all of the teams are looking at this from the wrong angle.I'm walking down a sidewalk in a nice suburb. 2 lane road, plenty of traffic. THE NOISE AND THE FUMES. Why are you breathing in garbage whilst walking or jogging? With kids. It's just a beautiful suburbian street ruined. What's the deal with people on sidewalk cafes, breathing in stink, fumes, and the friggin NOISE. My car isn't gassing your food, and causing you to yell at your one night stand....er date. Everyone, stop with the abstract. Like Pauly Shore says, think locally. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 10:41:31 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:17:11 2023. Why do you love the flag of treason? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 10:42:32 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:04:45 2023. It was a crazy post. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 10:43:11 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:07:48 2023. It’s the belief that humanity has no effect on the climate that’s a religion. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 10:43:33 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 10:09:08 2023. No he didn’t. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 19 10:56:34 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 19 08:52:03 2023. Global warming and cooling is cyclical. That being said, human activity can make the cycles more pronounced or occur at times that they should not. Also, the "solutions" are just about screwing the United States not resolving the problem. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 19 11:23:31 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 10:41:31 2023.  hm... |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Sep 19 11:55:51 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 19 10:56:34 2023. Also, the "solutions" are just about screwing the United States not resolving the problem.China, the EU, and the westernized east Asian countries are doing just as much as the US. Among the big players economically only India is lagging, and they are bitterly poor relatively speaking. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 19 12:01:16 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 19 10:42:32 2023. How is this a crazy post? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 19 12:01:29 2023, in response to Re: MAGA, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 19 11:55:51 2023. No they are not. Not to mention China is substantially larger than the United States so should be doing a lot more than the United States. |
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