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Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 19:15:34 2023, in response to Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 19 19:04:41 2023.

The flag is flown at half staff until noon, then it is raised to full staff.

Because it’s remembrance in the AM and celebration in the PM, because our flag was still there.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 19:17:54 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 18:43:22 2023.

That’s not a factual error. To this day, acts of the parliament are attributed to the king. The PM and his cabinet is called “His Majesty’s Government” and the opposition in parliament is called “His Majesty’s loyal opposition.” Jefferson would no doubt have been aware of the nature of the British government.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 19:20:27 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 19:17:54 2023.

And I would add that the omission of the role of parliament was deliberate, given the lack of representation of the colonies therein.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by WayneJay on Mon Jun 19 19:20:37 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 18:22:33 2023.

White guilt, lol! More like you and the like who are happy to ignore/delete the negative parts of American history.

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Juneteenth weekend shootings: 12 dead, 100+ injured

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 19:32:29 2023, in response to there is no mail today, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 08:53:13 2023.

CBS News

Shootings on Juneteenth weekend leave at least 12 dead, more than 100 injured

Mass shootings in communities across the U.S. have killed at least 12 people since Friday and injured more than 100, CBS Chicago's Charlie De Mar reported.

The shootings follow a rise in homicides and other violence over the past several years that experts say accelerated during the coronavirus pandemic. Shootings with multiple people killed or wounded happened in suburban Chicago, Washington state, central Pennsylvania, St. Louis, Idaho, Southern California and Baltimore, among other places.

"There's no question there's been a spike in violence," said Daniel Nagin, a professor of public policy and statistics at Carnegie Mellon University. "Some of these cases seem to be just disputes, often among adolescents, and those disputes are played out with firearms, not with fists."

So far this year, more than 800 children and teenagers have been killed by guns, which includes homicides and suicides, according to the Gun Violence Archive. Looking at CDC data, a report this month by the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions found 2021 set a record for the most deaths ever: 48,830 gun-related deaths. Of those, 20,958 were homicides, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Josh Horwitz, the center's co-director, said states and the federal government need to redouble their efforts to stop gun violence.

"We also think limiting access to firearms in public is important," he said. "And of course, investing in community violence intervention programs will pay dividends and save lives."

"We know that there's a correlation between amounts and levels of guns in the community and gun death," Horwtiz told CBS News.

But researchers disagree over the cause of the increase. Theories include the possibility that violence is driven by the prevalence of guns in America, or by less aggressive police tactics or a decline in prosecutions for misdemeanor weapon offenses, Nagin said.

One of the weekend's shootings took place in Willowbrook, Illinois, where at least 23 people were shot, one fatally, early Sunday in a suburban Chicago parking lot where hundreds of people had gathered to celebrate Juneteenth, authorities said. The DuPage County sheriff's office described a "peaceful gathering" that suddenly turned violent as a number of people fired multiple shots into the crowd.

Mariah Dixon, 23, was shot in the knee and hid under a car. She told CBS News that her life has been changed forever.

"I don't know if I will ever be able to attend parties again," she said.

A motive for the attack wasn't immediately known. Sheriff's spokesman Robert Carroll said authorities were interviewing "persons of interest" in the shooting, the Daily Herald reported. Governor JB Pritzker said investigators were also reviewing camera footage from the area, including cellphone video from attendees, CBS Chicago reported.

In Washington state, two people were killed and two others were injured when a shooter began firing "randomly" into a crowd at a campground where many people were staying to attend a nearby music festival on Saturday night, police said.

The suspect was shot in a confrontation with law enforcement officers and taken into custody, several hundred yards from the Beyond Wonderland electronic dance music festival.

In central Pennsylvania, a state trooper was killed and a second critically wounded just hours apart on Saturday after a gunman attacked a state police barracks. The suspect drove his truck into the parking lot of the Lewistown barracks and opened fire with a large-caliber rifle on marked patrol cars before fleeing, authorities said Sunday.

Lt. James Wagner, 45, was critically wounded when he was shot after encountering the suspect several miles away in Mifflintown. Later, Trooper Jacques Rougeau Jr., 29, was ambushed and killed by a gunshot through the windshield of his patrol car as he drove down a road in nearby Walker Township, authorities said.

The suspect was shot and killed after a fierce gunbattle, said Lt. Col. George Bivens, who went up in a helicopter to coordinate the search for the 38-year-old suspect.

Another shooting unfolded in a downtown St. Louis office building where a social gathering was being held early Sunday, killing a 17-year-old and wounding 11 other teenagers, the city's police commissioner said. St. Louis Metropolitan Police Commissioner Robert Tracy identified the victim who was killed as Makao Moore. A spokesman said a minor who had a handgun was in police custody as a person of interest.

Teenagers were having a party in an office space when the shooting broke out around 1 a.m. Sunday.

The victims ranged from 15 to 19 years old and had injuries including multiple gunshot wounds. A 17-year-old girl was trampled as she fled, seriously injuring her spine, Tracy said. Shell casings from AR-style rifles and other firearms were scattered on the ground.

In all, 19 mass shootings were reported in the U.S. between Friday and Monday evening, according to the Gun Violence Archive.


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Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 19 19:32:32 2023, in response to Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 19:09:59 2023.

Who's side are you on?

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Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 19:33:10 2023, in response to Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 19 19:32:32 2023.

I'm agreeing with you.

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Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 19 19:33:59 2023, in response to Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 19:33:10 2023.

Oh OK. Thanks .

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Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 19:36:11 2023, in response to Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 19 16:10:56 2023.

If you don't know the difference you should study the Constitution.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 19:42:00 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 16:15:19 2023.

1. Christianity
2. Columbus (not Columbo)
3. Washington
4. Thanksgiving
(I don't agree with Aim.)

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Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 19:44:01 2023, in response to Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 19:36:11 2023.

Article?

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Re: juneteenth communism

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 19:47:40 2023, in response to Re: juneteenth communism, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jun 19 17:55:37 2023.

You mean the paratrooper who went temporarily deaf when he landed on the church steeple's bells????

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 19 19:52:27 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 19 18:17:31 2023.

Alas, that was not what Juneteenth commemorates. To be totally accurate, June 19, 1865 was the date that slaves were freed in Texas. The actual emancipation proclamation took effect Jan. 28, 1863. Personally, I don't care on which date the end of slavery is celebrated but leave us not claim that this date is something that it isn't.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 20:08:05 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 19:17:54 2023.

OK, I see your point.



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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 20:10:04 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 19:42:00 2023.

What don't you agree with?

I didn't make any particularly extreme or unjustifiable statements.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 19 20:11:53 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 20:10:04 2023.

You are a pussy.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:33:04 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 18:31:28 2023.

Still no excuse.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:34:08 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 19 18:32:38 2023.

How did they differentiate June fourteenth from June nineteenth?

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Re: Juneteenth weekend shootings: 12 dead, 100+ injured

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 20:34:39 2023, in response to Juneteenth weekend shootings: 12 dead, 100+ injured, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 19:32:29 2023.

According to the article, there are an average of 6 gun-related homicides a day, so if there were only 12 on this 3-day weekend that would actually be below average.


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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:36:46 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 18:43:22 2023.

Lo@lm! I'm sure that I don't have to explain the difference and the point that is being made

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:42:58 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 18:04:49 2023.

The pilgrims weren't bigots

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:44:49 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 18:04:08 2023.

Islam is worse

He was an explorer.

Lots of religious sects are like that

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Re: Happy Al Bundy DAY

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:49:12 2023, in response to Re: Happy Al Bundy DAY, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 17:55:08 2023.

Don't forget to thank her!

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Re: There is no mail today

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 20:59:08 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:34:08 2023.

Or any of the other "teenth" date numbers?

Never mind "Juneteenth" sounding juvenile no matter who says it.

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Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 19 21:07:11 2023, in response to Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 10:12:59 2023.

WHAT???????????????????

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Re: Juneteenth weekend shootings: 12 dead, 100+ injured

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 19 21:09:28 2023, in response to Juneteenth weekend shootings: 12 dead, 100+ injured, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 19:32:29 2023.

60 shot/10 dead in Chicago alone. Time to ban guns again.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 21:11:43 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 19:42:00 2023.

Islam is the worst human rights offender.

His real last name is Columbo

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Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 19 21:26:21 2023, in response to Re: THERE IS NO MAIL TODAY!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 13:26:43 2023.

That's a surprise

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 19 21:33:13 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 15:08:53 2023.

Maybe. But UPS and FedEx and Amazon definitely delivered today

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 19 21:33:33 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 21:11:43 2023.

CHRISTIANS ARE THE HIGHEST

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Re: Happy Al Bundy DAY

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 19 21:37:17 2023, in response to Happy Al Bundy DAY, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 13:53:54 2023.

Best sitcom ever!

I've never forgiven Fox for the poor way they treated one of their most popular (and original) shows at the end. I was all about Fox when they came on the scene in the late 80s (mainly because they were not the Big 3). After MWC bit the dust, there were 2 other Fox shows I was watching. I continued to watch those shows until their runs ended, and I haven't watched a Fox show since (only time my TV is on a Fox station was for a network baseball or football game, and I don't watch those anymore either (lack of interest in that case rather than anger at Fox)

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 21:41:44 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 19 21:33:33 2023.

As in smoking weed?

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Re: Happy Birthday Garfield

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 19 21:42:41 2023, in response to Happy Birthday Garfield, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 18:14:54 2023.

Happy Birthday (though Heathcliff was the better orange cartoon cat IMO)




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Re: Happy Birthday Ann Wilson

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 19 21:43:48 2023, in response to Happy Birthday Ann Wilson, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 18:17:27 2023.

Heart's best song, IMO



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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:47:45 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:42:58 2023.

Of course they were. They were also pretentious.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:48:33 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 20:44:49 2023.

1. No it’s not.
2. He was also a brutal overlord.
3. And we don’t celebrate them.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:49:54 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 21:11:43 2023.

It is today.

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Re: Happy Al Bundy DAY

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:50:53 2023, in response to Re: Happy Al Bundy DAY, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 19 21:37:17 2023.

And they still won’t cancel The Simpsons or Family Guy.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 22:08:40 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:47:45 2023.

Who were they bigoted against? I'm going to assume that you aren't confusing secular with bigoted.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 22:09:39 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:48:33 2023.

You really think that in 2023 Christianity is worse than islam?

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 22:12:08 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:49:54 2023.

Today is what matters. Besides, islam was always worse percentagewise,it just used to be a small religion,now spreading like wildfire.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 19 22:31:01 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 21:41:44 2023.

DEATH KILLING

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Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 19 22:50:30 2023, in response to Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 19:04:42 2023.

IAWTP! On each and every 9/11 down at ground zero, its as somber now as it was 22 years ago. People still carry pictures and Kleenex. Making 9/11 a national holiday is just wrong, straight answer.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Jun 19 22:56:11 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 19 18:22:33 2023.

Honestly, I don't see where you get racist and anti White from.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 22:59:57 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 22:09:39 2023.

Not 2023.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 23:00:34 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 22:12:08 2023.

It’s not now spreading like wildfire, it spread like that in the Middle Ages.

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Re: Happy Birthday Lou Gehrig

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 19 23:20:32 2023, in response to Re: Happy Birthday Lou Gehrig, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 15:19:21 2023.

If you have access to the Tubi app, you can see it there for free.

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Re: there is no mail today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 19 23:29:19 2023, in response to Re: there is no mail today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 19 22:31:01 2023.

No, that'll be islam.

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Re: Happy Birthday Lou Gehrig

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 19 23:39:39 2023, in response to Re: Happy Birthday Lou Gehrig, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 19 23:20:32 2023.

I just showed you that you can watch it for free on YouTube.

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Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Memorial Day

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 19 23:49:43 2023, in response to Re: 9/11 Should Be A National Holiday, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 19 22:50:30 2023.

Any better?

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