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More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 13:05:08 2022

This “Onward Christian Soldiers” stuff always ends up with Jews getting it in the neck.

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-pennsylvania-religion-nationalism-8bf7a6115725f508a37ef944333bc145

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 13:06:36 2022, in response to More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 13:05:08 2022.

I’ve been saying this for a long time and I was called a bigot or that it was no big deal or that this is a Christian nation.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 13:33:38 2022, in response to More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 13:05:08 2022.

WTF is "Christian nationalism"? Sounds as made-up by the liberal media as "white supremacy/nationalism", but you believe the AP garbage just so readily.

The real antisemites are those you call "nice old gent(s)"; you give them a pass.

How many Jews died at the hands of atheists? Might be a higher number, but the atheists don't track that.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 13:38:22 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 13:33:38 2022.

… (Doug) Mastriano “is a unique case where he really does in his speeches highlight this apocalyptic idea” where his supporters and causes are on God’s side, said Andrew Whitehead, sociology professor at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis and co-author of Taking America Back for God: Christian Nationalism in the United States.

“It literally is good and evil,” he continued. “There’s no room for compromise, so that is the threat to democracy.” …
Just as I thought. Made-up garbage by a (most likely Marxist) college professor.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 29 13:45:53 2022, in response to More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 13:05:08 2022.

Maybe you should get some help regarding your paranoia.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 13:46:14 2022, in response to More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 13:05:08 2022.

Mastriano has rejected the “Christian nationalist” label. In fact, few if any prominent candidates use the label. Some say it’s a pejorative and insist everyone has a right to draw on their faith and values to try to influence public policy. …
IOW, AP made the whole thing up. But you swallow it hook, line and sinker because you're a liberal.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by AlM on Sun May 29 14:17:26 2022, in response to More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 13:05:08 2022.

And what very major political figure is encouraging this?

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Easy on Sun May 29 14:28:24 2022, in response to More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 13:05:08 2022.

I mentioned in another thread that I believe antisemitism to be on the rise and increasingly open from both the right and the left, but you'd be hard pressed to find a group of non-Jews more supportive of Israel and Jews in general than an evangelical church on Sunday morning.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Dave on Sun May 29 15:34:13 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by AlM on Sun May 29 14:17:26 2022.

Christian Nationalism Is One of Trump’s Most Powerful Weapons

Religious extremists mix Trump worship with Christian nationalism

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 16:15:44 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 13:33:38 2022.

Fuck you. Go worship your god.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 16:17:59 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Easy on Sun May 29 14:28:24 2022.

The evangelical scum only support Israel because they think it will help bring about the apocalypse.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by AlM on Sun May 29 16:18:18 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Dave on Sun May 29 15:34:13 2022.

I'm shocked, shocked.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun May 29 16:25:55 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 29 13:45:53 2022.

+45

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun May 29 16:47:40 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Dave on Sun May 29 15:34:13 2022.

Oh please.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun May 29 16:49:42 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Dave on Sun May 29 15:34:13 2022.

The NY times and msnbcheehaw

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 17:33:26 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Dave on Sun May 29 15:34:13 2022.

Wow, just pile on the fake news, why dontcha.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 17:35:03 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun May 29 16:47:40 2022.

Yep; fake news from sources that are themselves antisemitic.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 18:05:39 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 29 13:45:53 2022.

That’s what they said to the Jews in Eastern Europe in 1938.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 18:23:29 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 18:05:39 2022.

Still with that false attribution. That's what happens to you when you let the antisemitic AP do your thinking for you.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 29 18:36:56 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Mitch45 on Sun May 29 18:05:39 2022.

They had a reason then.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 29 18:38:45 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 16:17:59 2022.

So? They're still pro Israel and love Jews.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by AlM on Sun May 29 18:41:28 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 29 18:38:45 2022.

They're only pro-Israel because they're anti-Muslim.

Plenty of evangelicals are fine with Jews, and plenty are not.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Dave on Sun May 29 19:03:45 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 17:33:26 2022.

Well, let's see...there's an extensive AP story on this topic published today, but you'll undoubtedly call AP a fake news site and anti-semetic.

ABC News has a story on the topic but you won't accept that, either. The United Methodist Church had an article on the subject on their web site but I'm sure they're not Christian enough for you.

So tell me, Olog. What source would you consider valid, if any?

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun May 29 19:07:16 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 17:35:03 2022.

iawtlp

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 19:24:56 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Dave on Sun May 29 19:03:45 2022.

None of the above, for obvious reasons that you refuse to cite (which is why I regard you as a liberal)—Marxist infiltration and domination. That includes especially the UMC, who happen to be the church of the RINO Bushes.

Never mind the sources they cite, who are invariably "scholars" and Marxist college professors—IOW, slanderers.

What I'm saying should not have to be tiresomely repeated. It's too blasted obvious.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 19:49:54 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by AlM on Sun May 29 18:41:28 2022.

Not just that, they’re pro-armageddon, they long for it.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 19:53:33 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 19:24:56 2022.



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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Easy on Sun May 29 19:56:27 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by AlM on Sun May 29 18:41:28 2022.

They're only pro-Israel because they're anti-Muslim.

That's completely false. Spider Pig is somewhat correct, albeit with a completely negative spin. Christians believe what's written in the Bible and the entire Bible, the apocalypse and all, is based on Jews being God's chosen people. The overwhelming majority of evangelicals, not just "plenty" believe that. A very small amount don't.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 20:11:43 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Easy on Sun May 29 19:56:27 2022.

You mean Evangelical Christians believe that.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by AlM on Sun May 29 20:20:15 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Easy on Sun May 29 19:56:27 2022.

Christians believe what's written in the Bible and the entire Bible

Few Evangelical Christians believe the entire Bible. If they did, they would follow all the laws of Moses.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 20:31:44 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by AlM on Sun May 29 20:20:15 2022.

They believe the whole Bible is historically accurate.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by Easy on Sun May 29 20:37:08 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by AlM on Sun May 29 20:20:15 2022.

Wouldn't that make them not Christians? Christians can't exist without the New Testament.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 20:42:56 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by AlM on Sun May 29 20:20:15 2022.

Few Evangelical Christians believe the entire Bible. If they did, they would follow all the laws of Moses

Oh boy. Talk about a complete lack of understanding.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by DaNd124 on Sun May 29 21:01:16 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 19:24:56 2022.

hat includes especially the UMC, who happen to be the church of the RINO Bushes.

Only W is Methodist HW was Episcopalian Jeb is Catholic.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 21:02:02 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by DaNd124 on Sun May 29 21:01:16 2022.

None of them are even jellicle, so to Olog-hai they must not be true Christians.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 21:10:00 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by DaNd124 on Sun May 29 21:01:16 2022.

Pedantry. They're all the same now anyway, given those supposed disparate church's current standings. (And W and "Yeb" are converts anyway; given W's prominence, the UMC is highlighted.)

Of course, if you were to believe the Washington Compost, George HW "helped lead (the) GOP towards evangelicalism", pfft.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 21:12:15 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 21:02:02 2022.

Nope. I'm not promoting the evangelicals. But your prejudice made you do a knee-jerk reaction.

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Easy on Sun May 29 21:22:08 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 21:12:15 2022.

IAWTP

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Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 21:35:55 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews? Christian Nationalism on the Rise?, posted by Easy on Sun May 29 21:22:08 2022.

IAAWTP

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Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise

Posted by AlM on Sun May 29 21:45:35 2022, in response to Re: More Bad News for Jews: Christian Nationalism on the Rise, posted by Easy on Sun May 29 20:37:08 2022.

I'm just saying evangelicals reject some of the teachings of the Old Testament.

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