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Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jun 18 13:04:11 2021 Update |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:01:37 2021, in response to Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jun 18 13:04:11 2021. That didn’t happen.HAIL TRUMP! HAIL VICTORY! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 18 14:12:37 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:01:37 2021. It certainly did happen and I hope everyone who entered the Capitol Bldg gets prosecuted but that doesn't mean Trump encouraged it. I admit Trump acted like an asshole after the election which negated ALL the good he did as President but I don't believe he was traitorous. You're entitled to your opinion even if it's wrong. |
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Posted by Jimmymc25 on Fri Jun 18 14:13:33 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:01:37 2021. Pleasant little tour. Thier Lord and Savior was very pleased. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:17:21 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 18 14:12:37 2021. I do believe that he encouraged it. Reports show that he attached it with excitement.Now, assuming that he didn’t adhere to the rioters, or provide aid and comfort to them, the rioters themselves are still traitors and it was still an attempted coup. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 18 14:20:39 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 18 14:12:37 2021. that doesn't mean Trump encouraged itOK. But what about the three hours of his aides begging that it took him to tell them to go home? Most of the 7 or 8 deaths could have been avoided. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:22:36 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 18 14:20:39 2021. Not only that, but his video where he asked them to leave expressed his love to them. He could have said something like “this isn’t the way” or “history will vindicate us”, but he said “we love you.” |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:24:07 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 18 14:20:39 2021. Also, I would argue that Trump knew or should have known that the election wasn’t stolen, and therefore knew or should have known that he was engaging in stochastic terrorism. Ignorance and stupidity aren’t affirmative defenses if you’re the president. |
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Posted by Allan on Fri Jun 18 14:34:50 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:24:07 2021. But that just about all Donald has. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jun 18 14:54:34 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:22:36 2021. Thanks, Spider-Pig |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 15:21:51 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 18 14:12:37 2021. Exactly. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 15:22:44 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 14:17:21 2021. They were assholes and shouldn't have trespassed, but it was NO coup. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 15:24:28 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 18 14:20:39 2021. YAAAAWWN! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 15:40:00 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 15:22:44 2021. It was a FAILED coup. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 16:09:33 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 15:40:00 2021. We've discussed this before. |
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Re: Update? Capitol Riot on Jan.6 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 18 16:12:49 2021, in response to Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jun 18 13:04:11 2021. This will get shushed when it comes out that this is another Antifa or BLM thug. Impossible to be a "Trump supporter"; they do not attack police. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 18 16:43:26 2021, in response to Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jun 18 13:04:11 2021. Just a bunch of douches taking selfies... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 16:45:54 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 18 16:43:26 2021. That's one douchebag who was outside behind barriers. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 18 17:53:35 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 15:40:00 2021. Nonsense. The rioters were just a bunch of misguided goons who got caught up in the moment & lost the power of reason or forgot the difference between right and wrong. So now its payback time. Each and every one of them should have the book thrown at them. But Coup inciters? Hardly.As of now, not one of the arrestees were charged with sedition. If an actual "coup" were taking place, those charges should have been leveled by now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 18:05:01 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 18 17:53:35 2021. They might well be charged with sedition. The statute of limitations hasn’t run. |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Jun 18 20:34:22 2021, in response to Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jun 18 13:04:11 2021. it's amazing what lengths the FBI will go to. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 18 21:34:28 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 15:22:44 2021. I like how you insist on calling it trespassing and not causing serious injury to 100+ police officers. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 23:02:07 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 18:05:01 2021. Yeah, I'll be waiting... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 23:26:47 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 18 21:34:28 2021. Because I know better and do not have to resort to sensationalism. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 05:58:15 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 15:40:00 2021. The whole “election was stolen“ campaign from Trump was a coup attempt, as he was trying to subvert a free and fair election even after bipartisan verification. January 6 was the putsch.Maybe not part of the coup attempt but certainly suspect was his installation of loyalists at positions at the DOD, late in his term. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:37:37 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 18:05:01 2021. Yes or they may find that many of the "rioters" now held as uninvited co-conspirators are FBI informants. Perhaps this is why none of the 15 thousand hours if surveillance tapes have been released. Perhaps this is why we still don't know the name of the cop who shot the unarmed female demonstrator. Perhaps we'll one day know why the Capitol Police were so "caught bu surprise." |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jun 19 07:40:12 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 18 18:05:01 2021. They might well be charged with sedition. The statute of limitations hasn’t run.That will not happen and here is the reason way. All the members of Congress seated on January 3 2021 were still seated on January 7 2021. Joseph Biden was sworn in as the 46th President of the United States on January 20, 2021. The government of the United States was not overthrown* and the chances of it happening as the result of the events of January 6 2021 were ZERO. *Which was not the intention of the people that marched on the Capitol. The thing that pisses me off about this entire fucking shit show is the left and their supporting media calling the events of January 6 2021 an "Insurrection", not an alleged insurrection or an attempted insurrection. This is just an other example of how the left makes an accusation more serious then the alleged crime. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 07:49:21 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jun 19 07:40:12 2021. An insurrection is defined as a violent uprising against an authority or government. It's not defined by its success or failure. So "attempted insurrection" isn't really a thing here unless you're talking about a bunch of guys in a bar who talk about mounting an insurrection and then just sleeping in :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:50:48 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 07:49:21 2021. What is it called when a government agency has a hand in staging it? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 19 07:50:57 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 18 23:26:47 2021. Even if you think calling it "insurrection" would be sensationalism, calling it assallt would not be sensationalism. Steadfastedly refusing to call it anything other than trespassing is just like leftists who call the most violent Portland riots "peaceful protests." |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:51:44 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:37:37 2021. That should be unindicted co-conspirators |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 07:52:10 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:50:48 2021. Sean Hannity |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:52:40 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 07:52:10 2021. WAFG |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 07:53:29 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:52:40 2021. WATD. Gee I guess we all can have a radio station. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 19 07:59:23 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jun 19 07:40:12 2021. The lack of success is not a criterion. John Brown wasn't absolved because his attempted insurrection was unsuccessful. The South's attack on Fort Sumter was also unsuccessful in achieving its aims. It just took 5,000 times as long for the government to repulse it as to repulse the attack on the Capitol on 1/6/2021.Having said that, OK, let's not call 1/6/2021 an insurrection. Does that excuse a refusal to investigate it, or attempts to blame its instigation on the FBI? Does it excuse that it took 3 hours of begging by his aides for the President of the United States to use his personal influence to get the rioters to cease? Does it excuse that the stated motivation of the assaulters of police officers was the President's dissemination of dangerous lies about the election? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 08:24:18 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:37:37 2021. You mean unarmed female burglar and insurrectionist. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 08:29:13 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 07:53:29 2021. So this is how socialist liberals dismiss an argument? By mentioning the name of a conservative commentator? I notice that you didn't answer any of the points that I raised. Perhaps you can tell me when Hannity made the comments you attribute to him. While you are at it, how is it possible that we knew the names of the 9/11 hijackers days after the attack. We knew that there was a 20th hijacker and his name but we still have no idea who the unindicted co-conspirators are. Maybe you can ask Hannity that. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 08:29:51 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 08:24:18 2021. No. I mean exactly what I said. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:33:25 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 08:29:13 2021. No but when you bring up a conspiracy theory it's apt to point out a likely source. And I was wrong, as it was Tucker Carlson who has brought up the "inside job" claim of the insurrection. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 08:35:37 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:33:25 2021. No. You were being childishly dismissive. I raised issues and you otherwise could not refute or explain. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:39:16 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 05:58:15 2021. He egged on the mob. Even if he had peacefully convinced Congress to overturn the election, that would still be a Coup. Idiots like Trump Dude have no idea what a coup is and think it requires tanks. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:40:04 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 07:37:37 2021. The FBI, that’s your new conspiracy theory. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:41:02 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 08:35:37 2021. When you indirectly propose that a government agency has a hand in staging an insurrection, I feel you should get an all-ages response. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:43:17 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 08:35:37 2021. No, you were JAQing off. Your claim is so risible it doesn’t warrant a response. Fred just chooses not to follow your religion. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:46:22 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:39:16 2021. Agreed, there have been bloodless coups in history. Some guy takes over the TV station, arrests the President/Prime Minister and announces he's in charge. |
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Posted by rkba on Sat Jun 19 08:48:48 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 08:29:13 2021. come on now, don't expect the two stooges to come up with anything coherent. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:48:54 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:46:22 2021. Also don’t forget that recordings of the insurrectionists show them being incredulous that the police were fighting back against them. They believed that the police and the armed forces would join them. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:50:36 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:48:54 2021. Yes they were shocked. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:52:14 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by rkba on Sat Jun 19 08:48:48 2021. 
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 09:02:13 2021, in response to Re: Update-Capital Riot on Jan.6, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:43:17 2021. LOL CUNTsler |
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