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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 4 13:00:47 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 4 09:13:49 2020. No, it was shit like this (starts at 9:07):While I think most of the Powell & Wood allegations seem farcical, get ready for four years of bullshit from the Republican side. The Democrats and MSM lowered the bar and have no moral ground to stand on here. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 4 15:04:32 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 4 13:00:47 2020. Not watching video.Is this about collusion? The Senate Republicans state that the Trump Campaign gave confidential voter information to Russian intelligence agents. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 15:26:26 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 4 11:20:49 2020. Doo doo you think so? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Dec 4 15:27:29 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 11:06:05 2020. You surprised?? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 15:31:44 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 4 11:15:19 2020. Must I say it again? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 15:33:07 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 11:25:05 2020. Sure, anyone has the right to purchase Healthcare or have it bestowed on them by their employer. I'm sure no one has a problem with that. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 15:34:19 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 4 11:20:16 2020. Why are you cursing at me? What I said is LITERALLY the truth. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 15:50:33 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 4 15:04:32 2020. There is a narrative on the right that because Trump himself was not found to have coordinated or communicated with any Russians, that no agents of his campaign did. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 16:06:39 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 15:33:07 2020. People who can't afford something don't have the "right" to purchase it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 16:09:58 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 15:34:19 2020. FALSE! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 18:38:29 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 16:06:39 2020. Sure they do. I cannot afford to buy the Empire State Building, but I have the same right to buy it as any real estate conglomerate. It's up to ME to make sure I can come up with the dough. It's not Society's responsibility to get taxed so I have enough money to do so. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 18:39:35 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 16:09:58 2020. If it wasn't false, healthcare for all would have already been a thing. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 4 19:52:34 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 18:39:35 2020. Is that the phrase with the implied word "government" in front of it?Put it all back in the private sector and it'll truly be for all, in earnest. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 20:41:03 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 18:38:29 2020. No, you don’t have a right to buy the ESB. If you did, you would be able to afford it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 20:48:37 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 18:39:35 2020. TNHIW. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 4 20:50:01 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 18:38:29 2020. Ridiculous analogy.You don't need to but the E.S.B. to stay healthy andalive. Government has a right collect taxes and it is YOUR responsibility to pay taxes. If you have a problem with how they spend it, such as "those people" getting healthcare, too bad. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 4 20:50:37 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 15:31:44 2020. No, because everything you say is nonsense. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:15:03 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 20:48:37 2020. Sure it is. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 22:15:38 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:15:03 2020. Wrong. You’re assuming the world is perfect. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:16:29 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 20:41:03 2020. Sure I do. But if I don't have the money, I can't. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:18:16 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 4 20:50:01 2020. Who are "those people"? You sound unhinged.I already have healthcare. Why should I pay for more that I'm not gonna use? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:18:53 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 4 20:50:37 2020. You need another cup of coffee. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 22:18:59 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:16:29 2020. Then it’s not a right. If it were, nothing would stop you. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri Dec 4 22:58:11 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 18:38:29 2020. and you have the right (so far) to walk right up to the empire state building any damn time you please. that ain't just nothing. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 5 10:23:09 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:18:16 2020. Why should I pay for more that I'm not gonna use?You already have a very good ability to protect yourself and your family. Why pay all this extra money that only protects others? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 5 10:40:02 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 5 10:23:09 2020. He does not understand the concept of insurance for anything, and that his, or his sponsor's, premiums are covering emergency room care for the uninsured. Since we are one of the few developed nations in the world lacking universal healthcare, we have the most expensive healthcare costs. No coincidence. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 5 10:40:50 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 4 22:18:53 2020. Not after 3pm. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 5 13:00:14 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 22:15:38 2020. We all know it's not. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 5 13:01:19 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 22:18:59 2020. Well then, neither is healthcare |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 5 13:14:14 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 5 10:40:02 2020. Really? Please school me on how it works? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 5 13:14:31 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 5 10:23:09 2020. Due to MY decisions in life. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 5 13:43:47 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 5 13:01:19 2020. I agree! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 00:15:43 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 4 15:50:33 2020. The video has nothing to do with collusion - it is that Russia hacked our election infrastructure. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 00:47:50 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 00:15:43 2020. I was responding to AlM and I also didn’t watch the video. If the video were important you would have summarized it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 6 00:53:16 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 00:15:43 2020. pwn3d. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 6 09:41:08 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 00:15:43 2020. I agree that Russia didn't successfully hack our infrastructure in 2016. I don't know if they tried; therefore I don't presume they did.They attempted to influence the election through fake Facebook posts ("I'm a black guy living in Milwaukee and I'm for Trump"). I do not believe their influence was conclusive, that is, I believe Trump would have won without it. But they did get assistance (also called collusion, also a felony) from the Trump campaign in order to target the right people. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 11:41:23 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 00:47:50 2020. The video was my citation that MSNBC was peddling conspiracy theories on the security of 2016 election infrastructure, to counter ALM's claim that the position the Trump camp is taking is somehow worse than what we've already been through. Watching is only necessary for people who want to refute my point. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 11:44:53 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 6 09:41:08 2020. You are changing the topic. Your original unsubstantiated claim was that people were only questioning the legitimacy of the Trump presidency due to him losing the popular vote. My video citation illustrates that people were questioning the election integrity itself with specific regard to the voting infrastructure... which is no different than what is going on currently. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 11:59:23 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 11:41:23 2020. If you’re describing accurately, I don’t want to refute your point. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Dec 6 12:07:05 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 11:59:23 2020. YOu're fucking disgusting
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 6 12:19:29 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 6 11:41:23 2020. So does the video say that the Russians did meddle in infrastructure, or that such a claim was being investigated?I would not object to Trump saying fraud is being investigated in 2020, because that is true. I only object to Trump saying massive fraud has occurred. I would similarly object if MSNBC said that the Russians were found to have meddled, rather than that htey were being inestigated. |
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