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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 15:05:24 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 15:02:31 2020.

what does that have to fo with the price of chili beans.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 15:13:06 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 15:05:24 2020.

Comparing New York and Pennsylvania's isn't valid.
New York would be a Blue state without any Blue dots upstate.
Pennsylvania could not be a Blue state without those several inland cities.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 15:15:26 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 15:13:06 2020.

of course not because you failed to make a valid argument against it. Only 4 counties in NYState are actually coastal.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 15:38:54 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 15:15:26 2020.

Actually, it’s 5 counties but still

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:26:30 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 14:39:19 2020.

I never specifically mentioned Pennsylvania. 8 said the coastal states, a few random ones like NM, and some that go back and forth....that would include PA. YOU brought up PA as a coastal state, attempting to say that I mentioned and then even brought up coast guard. YOU started all this. I did respond and say it sort of could be somewhat coastal in response to your posts but I never claimed it was.
Again, create a diversion and pretend the opposition started it!

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:27:24 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 14:47:57 2020.

But who brought up PA as coastal???? You did!

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 18:27:43 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:26:30 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:27:47 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 15:02:31 2020.

Lol!!!

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 18:40:45 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 15:38:54 2020.

Since Long and Staten Islands are islands (and so is Manhattan), then Bronx and Westchester are coastal.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by AlM on Thu May 28 18:43:22 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 18:40:45 2020.

Does the coast go up as far as the tides rise and fall? That would include Orange, Putnam, and Dutchess.

And of course the counties on the Great Lakes are coastal, as you pointed out.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:51:33 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 18:27:43 2020.

Thank you for being fair

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 18:56:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:26:30 2020.

You will never convince Joe that he's wrong.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 18:57:01 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:27:24 2020.

yes he did

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 19:01:21 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 15:38:54 2020.

I don't think bordering on a river constitutes "coastal" lest every state on the Mississippi would be a coastal state. In fact since there is no state that doesn't have a river or an ocean coastline, all states would be coastal. Your premise is silly

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:01:22 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Thu May 28 18:43:22 2020.

To further address this PA thing, I never really considered it coastal in attitude. The vast majority of areas are sort of rural and salt of earth types. Sure it has its cities too, but that's what keeps it flipping blue and red.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:03:14 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:01:22 2020.

Upstate New York is much the same, it’s just a much smaller part of the state’s population.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:03:42 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 19:01:21 2020.

The East River and LI Sound aren’t rivers.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:04:29 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:03:42 2020.

The East River is a RINO: River In Name Only.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:05:52 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 18:27:24 2020.

I brought it up to say it has little coast, and you know that means Atlantic Coast.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:07:52 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:03:42 2020.

I wouldn't consider Conn as not coastal, as it's on LI sound, but I guess it's not really in the ocean.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:08:25 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:03:14 2020.

Yes.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:09:13 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 18:56:36 2020.

Wrong about what ?

Have anything to say about Chris's stupid stereotyping as coastal states being "elite " ?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:09:23 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:07:52 2020.

I think sounds and bays count as coastal.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 19:09:59 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:03:42 2020.

I never mentioned either. As far as I am concerned, 5 counties have sea shores.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:10:13 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:09:13 2020.

Then why not stick to that argument instead of the sidetrack about whether PA is coastal?

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:10:55 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 19:09:59 2020.

AFAIAC, eight do.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:12:28 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:03:14 2020.

Furthermore, NYC residents seem to "infest" (I don't mean that in a bad way) it's neighboring areas of it's state more than let's say Philly's, Pittsburgh's, etc. I mean nyc'ers seem to have more second homes, etc in other parts of the state and influence those area more than PA's seem to do

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:14:06 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:05:52 2020.

???????????
But no one was claiming it was coastal until you started all this

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 19:15:23 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:14:06 2020.

LOL He is entertaining

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:16:58 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:12:28 2020.

Despite that, those areas still tend to vote red.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:24:25 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:14:06 2020.

Then what is ?

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:28:42 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:12:28 2020.

Philly suburbs are turning Blue. Has nothing to do with 2nd homes. They were moderate Republicans, which the Republican party no longer is. That's why 40 House seats flipped in 2018, on top of the 3 flipped in 2016. Do remember Conor Lamb, from a conservative Pittsburgh suburb. He beat a Trump-like incumbent.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:31:06 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:09:13 2020.

What does that have to do with your Pennsylvania rampage?

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:33:57 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:10:13 2020.

Exactly. At least that would have been a real debate, instead of all this irrelevant tangent of Pennsylvania, Penn Coast Guard (also a ridiculous tangent) none of which has to do with any of this, and started by him.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:34:05 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:31:06 2020.

How about answering the question about your elitest bullshit.

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Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:36:38 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 28 19:16:58 2020.

Perhaps....that's why Suffolk for example is pretty red, even with the huge influx of nyc'ers (Hamptons, etc), as you can only vote in one area. That said, their attitude certainly does change and project in Suffolk.... especially summers and weekends

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Posted by AlM on Thu May 28 19:38:16 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:12:28 2020.

I mean nyc'ers seem to have more second homes, etc in other parts of the state and influence those area more than PA's seem to do

What are you referring to?

Suffolk, Orange, Putnam, Sullivan, Greene, and Delaware Counties went for Trump.

Ulster, Dutchess, and Columbia went for Clinton.

Not seeing a pattern related to second homes.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:38:21 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 28 19:15:23 2020.

Yes.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:38:36 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:24:25 2020.

Lol!

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:39:17 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:34:05 2020.

I NEVER involved Pennsylvania!!!!!

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:40:22 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:33:57 2020.

You could also have answered my original question instead of evading it.

What are the coastal states and why are they elite ? Answer it.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:40:35 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by AlM on Thu May 28 19:38:16 2020.

The ATTITUDE!!! Geesh! I even said they were basically red!!!

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:41:16 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:38:36 2020.

The you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:41:51 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:39:17 2020.

You still cannot answer the question.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:42:22 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:40:35 2020.

....attitude doesn't mean voting. For example, u can easily tell who is a NYCer in ant of the towns in Suffolk on summer weekends

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:43:02 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:40:35 2020.

What does 2nd homes have to do with anything ?

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:45:54 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:41:16 2020.

You are comical. You take Pennsylvania and think of it as coastal instead of "one of the states that go back and forth" (which is what it is) in my statement, and then go on a rampage tangent as you read your own thoughts into it instead, and then even better yet, blame the opposition for it!!
Nice attempt though, even the people that might not agree with my statement realize you are a nutjob on this!!

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:49:48 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:41:51 2020.

Huh? The coastal states.....Cally, Washington, Oregon, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland and keep adding.
You have a problem with geography to see what states are on the coasts?
No one mentioned Pennsylvania but you....and then even go on a rampage about coast guards. Seriously....people think you are nuts!!

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:50:03 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:45:54 2020.

Stop with Pennsylvania and get back on topic, or can you ?
Define coastal and Define Elite. Now.


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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 28 19:52:56 2020, in response to Re: Biden vs Trump Presidential Debate(s), posted by Joe V on Thu May 28 19:43:02 2020.

Because they are there and bring their bring NYC attitude with them even though they don't vote there. Nycs influence stretches much further than just it's borders. You could never tell you are in red salt of the earth Suffolk in the summer...

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