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Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 21:58:58 2020

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/20/andrew-cuomo-new-york-coronavirus-catastrophe?fbclid=IwAR3dyK8WvPMcnXK9byqv3oDEOJzzkhJlR7DQd_FXn0rweaXKKjEaHAdJHd0

Andrew Cuomo is no hero. He's to blame for New York's coronavirus catastrophe
His record was terrible before coronavirus, but his abysmal handling of the crisis should get him thrown out of office

Lyta Gold and Nathan Robinson


Andrew Cuomo may be the most popular politician in the country. His approval ratings have hit all-time highs thanks to his Covid-19 response. Some Democrats have discussed him as a possible replacement for Joe Biden, due to Biden’s perceived weakness as a nominee. And there have even been some unfortunate tributes to Cuomo’s alleged sex appeal.

All of which is bizarre, because Cuomo should be one of the most loathed officials in America right now. ProPublica recently released a report outlining catastrophic missteps by Cuomo and the New York City mayor, Bill de Blasio, which probably resulted in many thousands of needless coronavirus cases. ProPublica offers some appalling numbers contrasting what happened in New York with the outbreak in California. By mid-May, New York City alone had almost 20,000 deaths, while in San Francisco there had been only 35, and New York state as a whole suffered 10 times as many deaths as California.

Federal failures played a role, of course, but this tragedy was absolutely due, in part, to decisions by the governor. Cuomo initially “reacted to De Blasio’s idea for closing down New York City with derision”, saying it “was dangerous” and “served only to scare people”. He said the “seasonal flu was a graver worry”. A spokesperson for Cuomo “refused to say if the governor had ever read the state’s pandemic plan”. Later, Cuomo would blame the press, including the New York Times for failing to say “Be careful, there’s a virus in China that may be in the United States?” even though the Times wrote nearly 500 stories on the virus before the state acted. Experts told ProPublica that “had New York imposed its extreme social distancing measures a week or two earlier, the death toll might have been cut by half or more”.


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But delay was not the only screw-up. Elderly prisoners have died of coronavirus because New York has failed to act on their medical parole requests. As Business Insider documented:

“Testing was slow. Nonprofit social-service agencies that serve the most vulnerable couldn’t get answers either. And medical experts like the former CDC director Tom Frieden said ‘so many deaths could have been prevented’ had New York issued its stay-at-home order just ‘days earlier’ than it did. On March 19, when New York’s schools had already been closed, Cuomo said ‘in many ways, the fear is more dangerous than the virus.’”

The governor has failed to take responsibility for the obvious failures, consistently blaming others and at one point even saying “governors don’t do pandemics”. (Actually, some governors just don’t read their state’s pandemic plans.) But much of the press has ignored this, focusing instead on Cuomo’s aesthetic presentation: his poise during press conferences, his dramatic statements about “taking responsibility” (even when he obviously hasn’t), and his invisible good looks.

Cuomo’s record was shameful long before coronavirus began
The mask mural is yet another publicity stunt mistaken by the press as a sign of leadership. On 29 April, Cuomo unveiled a wall of handmade cloth masks that had been sent to his office by concerned citizens all over America. He called it “a self-portrait of America. You know what that spells? It spells love.” Since the arrangement of masks doesn’t form words, the mural doesn’t actually spell anything, but it is a perfect symbol of Cuomo’s leadership failures. Handmade cloth face coverings are not as effective as N95 masks, of course, but if unsuitable for healthcare workers they would still have been perfectly appropriate to distribute to New Yorkers (some of whom have been brutally arrested for not wearing masks). But Cuomo, rather than putting the needs of New Yorkers first, chose to tack hundreds of cloth masks on a wall as a monument to himself.

Cuomo’s record was shameful long before coronavirus began. He enabled the IDC (Independent Democratic Conference), a group of conservative Democratic state lawmakers, in allying with the Republican minority to block progressive legislation. (Cuomo denies any role in the IDC, but that stretches credulity.) Before the pandemic, he pushed through Medicaid cuts which shut down necessary hospital space in the name of “efficiency” despite the warnings of medical professionals. And on 3 April, as 3,000 New Yorkers already lay dead from the virus and hospitals like Elmhurst in Queens were overwhelmed with cases, Cuomo forced through further Medicaid cuts, slashing $400m from hospital budgets.

As the state now staggers to its feet, Cuomo has partnered with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to “reimagine education” (which almost certainly means privatization), and with the ex-Google chief Eric Schmidt to – as Naomi Klein puts it – “permanently integrat[e] technology into every aspect of civic life”. All of this has happened without the democratic input of New Yorkers, who would likely prefer that the progressive legislators they elected could govern without interference, that their hospitals have enough money to function and that billionaires don’t infiltrate and control every element of civic life.

There’s something disturbing about Cuomo being hailed as the hero of the pandemic when he should rightly be one of the villains. As Business Insider notes, he is now only able to attain praise for his actions because his earlier failures made those actions necessary. He’s lauded for addressing a problem that he himself partly caused. Of course, part of this is because Donald Trump has bungled the coronavirus response even more badly, so that Cuomo – by not being a complete buffoon – looks like a capable statesman by contrast. But this is the problem: for too long, Democrats have measured their politicians by “whether they are better than Republicans”. This sets the bar very low indeed, and means that Democrats end up settling for incompetent and amoral leaders who betray progressive values again and again.

Lyta Gold is the managing editor and amusements editor of Current Affairs. Nathan Robinson is the editor of Current Affairs and a Guardian US columnist

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 22:06:59 2020, in response to Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 21:58:58 2020.

According to the article "By mid-May, New York City alone had almost 20,000 deaths, while in San Francisco there had been only 35, and New York state as a whole suffered 10 times as many deaths as California."
That seemed so unbelievable I fact checked it and found the article was wrong. San Francisco had one more than the article said, or 36.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 20 22:13:50 2020, in response to Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 21:58:58 2020.

Because he's a Democrat.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed May 20 22:14:27 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 22:06:59 2020.

California immediately locked everything down. New York also got a tremendous amount from Europe whereas California was more from Asia which got shut down quicker. That is not to say that Cuomo didn’t make mistakes in his handling, but it wasn’t solely Cuomo.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 20 22:15:33 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed May 20 22:13:50 2020.

Sort of. It’s because he’s not Trump.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn’t he???

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 20 22:23:36 2020, in response to Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 21:58:58 2020.

You mean you don't know that Orange Man must be the most loathed? And you're halfway there already too . . .

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn’t he???

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 20 22:54:57 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 22:06:59 2020.

That seemed so unbelievable I fact checked it and found the article was wrong

That's what you get for trusting the Manchester Grauniad.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 20 23:08:57 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 22:06:59 2020.

Targeted Senior citizens. He belongs in prison

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn’t he???

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 20 23:46:54 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 20 23:08:57 2020.

I wonder if he ever said of his own father that he was an old person who was going to die, period?

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn’t he???

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 23:53:15 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn’t he???, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 20 22:54:57 2020.

It was a joke!! It was only 1 more!! Sheesh...

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 06:46:53 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 20 23:08:57 2020.

He does not run private nursing homes. They can refuse people and send their Covid people out. There are procedures in place to do that.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by AlM on Thu May 21 07:22:42 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed May 20 22:06:59 2020.

I agree Cuomo is no great man.

But would you have supported a lockdown a week or two earlier, when there were essentially no deaths yet?

San Francisco had the advantage of seeing what happened if you didn't lock down before there were deaths. NY didn't.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 08:23:29 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by AlM on Thu May 21 07:22:42 2020.

JFK and EWR had 2.2 million fly in from Europe from January to mid-March - no checks of any sort. Everyone was staring at the half-assed block from China.

State Department should have known that 300,000 Wuhanians work in northern Italy factories, mostly illegally, and run by the mob, where normal unemployment among Italians is 20%. They are constantly flying beck and forth between China and Italy.

Back in February and early March, Rep. Devon Nunes was saying publicly that people should go out to restaurants when social distancing was necessary. Trumpicans listen to him, not Pelosi.

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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 21 08:32:34 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by AlM on Thu May 21 07:22:42 2020.

Plus, everybody was basing their decisions on the limited information that was available; i.e., the fact that only a few people in NY tested positive. Cuomo badly underestimated how many people were actually infected, but at the time, how would he have known that, without widespread testing?

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 08:45:07 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 21 08:32:34 2020.

Cuomo may have been naive enough to think Trump was any sort of leader in a lethal national crisis situation and rely on CDC officials at W.H.O. in Geneva, and on intelligence reports. He is not, He couldn't lead a one car parade without fucking up, blaming others, or the traffic lights.

Now with 4% of world population, we have 30% of the infections, and rank #131 out of 140 nations as worst in deaths per 100,000.

MAGA = Make America 3rd world country.
America First = America Last and Alone.

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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 21 10:04:20 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 08:45:07 2020.

Putin couldn't have installed a better agent.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 10:09:40 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 06:46:53 2020.

Hey tard, weren't you instructed to ignore my posts? AlM is going to be pissed because you are thinking for yourself again. Now go get coffee for the rest of the ladies.



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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 10:09:42 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 06:46:53 2020.

Hey tard, weren't you instructed to ignore my posts? AlM is going to be pissed because you are thinking for yourself again. Now go get coffee for the rest of the ladies.



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Posted by AlM on Thu May 21 10:25:31 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 21 08:32:34 2020.

Cuomo badly underestimated how many people were actually infected

So did everyone, because of the lack of testing.

590 people in NYC died on 4/7/2020.

Extrapolating backward, that means that roughly 60,000 people became infected in the city each day around 3/10/2020. Had my wife and I had a clue about that, we certainly wouldn't have gone to the theater on 3/7. We (and many other New Yorkers, but far from all) were just lucky.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 10:40:43 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 10:09:42 2020.

I don't take instructions very well from non-authority figures.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 10:48:37 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 10:40:43 2020.

But, joey, he gave you his best advice. I will never stop pointing out your obvious mental problems and your deficient social skills. As Alm says, I am a relentless "melancholy narcoleptic" and will continue to exploit your problems. Your safest course is to follow the instructions of the Rationalizer as he knows how well his plan has worked in the past. I pray for your soles.

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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 21 11:10:33 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by AlM on Thu May 21 10:25:31 2020.

The problem was that nobody else had a clue either. Two days before your theater visit I was an extra in a theater shoot at Hofstra University on 3/5. There were 500 extras. While Hofstra is in Nassau I would think the vast majority of the 500 were NYC residents. We sat together in a holding area close together for hours doing paperwork and visiting the wardrobe, makeup, and hair people. In the holding area they supplied a buffet lunch with everyone on line and sharing the serving utensils.


Eventually we went to the sets in the Hofstra basketball arena. One scene was in the crowded lobby where I was on a long line at the concession stand during I guess was halftime. About 15 retakes over and over again buying the same French fries and giving them back between takes! Another scene was all sitting in 2 sections of the arena to make it look like it was full. (Mary J Blige & 50 Cents were in that scene)

Two days later I did another job for the show FBI, in Brooklyn, but there were only about 10 extras and they ended up only using my 2005 Corolla and not me!

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Posted by AlM on Thu May 21 11:29:38 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 21 11:10:33 2020.

The problem was that nobody else had a clue either.


Well, exactly. And that's for many reasons. A lot of bad luck and a lot of misjudgment and misinformation, by many people.



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Posted by AlM on Thu May 21 11:46:27 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 10:40:43 2020.

I have never given you any instructions.

I have given you advice, which you obviously aren't taking. Possibly at your peril. :)

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 11:47:57 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by AlM on Thu May 21 11:46:27 2020.

Stomps feet and walks away, angry

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 11:56:53 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 10:48:37 2020.

But you are obviously socially and intellectually retarded to the level of a 5 year old, a misfit with no life, and few take you seriously. In other words, you are a sub-human, inferior, worthless nothing, and I don't care what you point out.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 12:02:38 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 11:56:53 2020.

I'm actually hurt by your comments. Excuse me while I go and sulk and have my lunch, joey.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 12:03:45 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 12:02:38 2020.

Run along.

Imagine what the MTA lurkers must think of you.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 12:09:52 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 12:03:45 2020.

Just what do you imagine,Joey? Which MTA lurkers are we talking about?

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 13:39:26 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 20 22:15:33 2020.

You are probably both right

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 13:48:03 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by AlM on Thu May 21 07:22:42 2020.

But would you have supported a lockdown a week or two earlier, when there were essentially no deaths yet

Yes, and it's the same for those criticizing Trump too.
But now, open businesses up already. There's no reason some more retail non food couldn't open with same practices as walmart

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 13:48:41 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 11:56:53 2020.

Lol! What are we in high school?

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 13:54:15 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 13:48:41 2020.

But, but, but he could be right.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 15:30:39 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 13:48:41 2020.

Well Train Dude is in Kindergarten. Ranting and raving all day like Trump's Tweats.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 15:31:47 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 13:48:03 2020.

Agree, but Alabama got careless and lax and could be heading for a another shelter in place

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 15:33:48 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 15:30:39 2020.

Personally joe, I think you are getting the best of me today. If I had a white flag, I'd be waving it right now. Despite your extreme mental illness, I give up.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 15:41:16 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 15:33:48 2020.

I had better things to do all day. This chatboard is not an important part of my life, and I can take it or leave it.

Sucks for you though.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 17:09:39 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 21 10:04:20 2020.

Russia is in bad shape now. We are shipping them ventilators.

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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 21 17:13:32 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 17:09:39 2020.

We'll see what happens to Putin. If nothing, he's a survivor. It's a kind of survival of the fittest for strongmen, with Xi Jiping already passing the course.

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Posted by AlM on Thu May 21 17:23:58 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 13:48:03 2020.

Yes

OK, so why would you have supported a lockdown at a time when almost all of us thought coronavirus wasn't such a big deal?

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 17:41:41 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 15:41:16 2020.

yes, isn't it your turn to get the rest of the girls in the office their lattes?

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Posted by Easy on Thu May 21 17:50:47 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 15:31:47 2020.

How do you figure?

Alabama

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 18:19:27 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Easy on Thu May 21 17:50:47 2020.

PWN3D.
I See, you apparently use facts. Joey likely relies on bingbong news.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu May 21 18:19:51 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Easy on Thu May 21 17:50:47 2020.

IAWTP

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 19:43:43 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 18:19:27 2020.

Hey Train Dude Retard, read this:

Montgomery

"Landers also explained the possible reason Montgomery County hospitals were nearly running out of ICU beds and sending severe COVID-19 patients to Birmingham."

"With state hospital ICU units filling up, Landers warned it’s important the community continues to take this virus seriously and do your part by wearing a mask and social distancing to keep the virus from spreading and overwhelming the healthcare system."

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 19:46:19 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 18:19:27 2020.

Train Dude likes to stick his head in the sand and make a fucking fool of himself all day, every day.

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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 19:52:32 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 21 17:41:41 2020.

Your Alzheimer's is really kicking in today.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by Joe V on Thu May 21 19:55:23 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by Easy on Thu May 21 17:50:47 2020.

See below. Some urban hospitals are at their breaking point with ICU capacity limits. They can't float the USN Comfort there either.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 20:19:45 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by AlM on Thu May 21 17:23:58 2020.

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I didn't. What are you talking about? No one knew. People blame Trump but no one would have accepted a lockdown earlier.

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Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???

Posted by AlM on Thu May 21 20:35:09 2020, in response to Re: Andrew Cuomo should be the most loathed politician in America now. Why isn't he???, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 21 20:19:45 2020.

What are you talking about?

I asked a question of Jeff and you answered yes. I was surprised at your answer, so I asked why you said yes.

Just follow the thread back.

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