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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 15:47:00 2019, in response to Stonewall, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 28 15:23:36 2019. This also means you won't, alas, be able to take part in the Heritage Of Pride Match on Sunday, either. As the sole double-threat member of this board, I shall march in your stead.Fair winds and smooth landings. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 28 17:22:19 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 15:47:00 2019. Jay, you should have a good time! Yes I know the underlying theme is serious, but do yourself a favor and just let loose! I will be in Manhattan tomorrow with my kids, I will be in Hell's Kitchen |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 17:23:38 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 28 17:22:19 2019. Trust me, I will. Lots to do all weekend long, starting tonight! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 28 17:27:22 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 17:23:38 2019. Well isn't today the actual anniversary of Stonewall? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 17:29:04 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 28 17:27:22 2019. Yes, it is. On my way to an event now.The Village is swamped with people curb to curb. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 28 17:33:31 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 17:29:04 2019. My friend already told me. And no it's not the secret service agent! LOL I plan on going to Hell's Kitchen tomorrow and then walking down the high line oh, I know it's going to be packed. Just be careful tonight and have fun! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 21:28:43 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 28 17:33:31 2019. Sad about the High Line. Should have kept it open all the way to St. John's Park Terminal and converted that former freight terminal into a Metro-North terminal. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 21:38:07 2019, in response to Stonewall, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 28 15:23:36 2019. As arguably the leading racist and foremost hypocrite on this boardYeah, but you work too hard at it. Cut yourself some slack. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 28 22:03:48 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 17:29:04 2019. Thanks for the info! Now I know where NOT to go! |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jun 29 05:49:29 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 15:47:00 2019. So like I am sitting on a United 757 in Newark and an Airbus just blew slides on the runway. There are EMS and ambulances and NYPA around our airplane probably for the evacuees. The airport was closed for an extended period with resulting diversions and recoveries but just opened back up. No matter since I will be delayed preparing my galley in Denver for the flight to Washington Dulles. I do the dreaded double duty tomorrow - Washington to San Juan in the morning then the “Redeye” to New York. I will be serving Bruges Confectionary cookies with Illy coffee. At least on the “Redeye” the passengers will be sleeping so my workload will be easier since I will only need to serve the prima donnas up front and then sit in my jumpseat facing backwards and stare straight ahead at the wall totally oblivious to my surroundings. The life I chose. Have a good weekend down in |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jun 29 06:30:48 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Jun 29 05:49:29 2019. 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈Harlem Pride today. Marching tomorrow. Too many event appearances in between. Here I go! |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Jun 29 07:15:07 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jun 29 06:30:48 2019. Break both fucking legs. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 29 09:04:50 2019, in response to Re: llawenots, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 21:38:07 2019. Sounds like a place in Wales. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 29 09:48:45 2019, in response to Re: llawenots, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 29 09:04:50 2019. LOL! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 29 10:57:33 2019, in response to Re: llawenots, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 21:38:07 2019. Damn.You evil ass. You couldn't even leave well enough alone. I may Not agree with this whole gay thing,but I don't push or hate or FUCK with them. Leave em alone,and mind your business. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 29 11:02:47 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 28 17:23:38 2019. Be safe and enjoy yourself. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 29 11:07:22 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 29 11:02:47 2019. Be safeLOL! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 29 12:55:57 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 29 11:07:22 2019. Why is that funny? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 29 14:24:06 2019, in response to Stonewall, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 28 15:23:36 2019. United 2098#aviation |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Nov 20 16:28:54 2019, in response to Stonewall, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 28 15:23:36 2019. ???????????? |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Nov 20 16:38:12 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Nov 20 16:28:54 2019. what |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 20 16:45:59 2019, in response to Stonewall, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Jun 28 15:23:36 2019. The Mafia founded Stonewall to extort money from men living a secret gay life.Pay the mafia or they'll reveal your secret to family, friends, neighbors, and coworkers. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 20 16:49:41 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 20 16:45:59 2019. That mafia was always democrat right?Guess that's why they support sharia law so much. What's that quote from Einstein about being a bozo? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 20 17:11:46 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 20 16:45:59 2019. Actually, that's incorrect. The Mob operated Stonewall because they knew that as an ostensibly underground bar, they could water the drinks down and overcharge for them. In fact, you couldn't even get into the Stonewall, Keller's or any of the spots in the Village during the '60s-early '80s unless the bouncer or door guy knew you, or you were with someone known to the staff.The mobsters paid off the local Sixth Precinct cops to stay away. In fact, the cops who did the raid that started the Rebellion were from the Vice Squad and the SLA, whom the Stonewall's owners at the time did not know. The patrons, however, weren't shaken down by the mob at all, beyond the usual price-gouging. The wiseguys were doing well with the captive market, and wanted to keep them coming back. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 20 17:47:18 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Nov 20 16:28:54 2019. You know that you are replying to 5 month old thread...don't you?? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 20 18:01:46 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 20 17:11:46 2019. Early 80s?! |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 20 18:14:23 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Nov 20 16:28:54 2019. Here’s some information about Stonewall from the history channel. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 20 18:52:20 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Nov 20 16:28:54 2019. figures |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 20 20:59:58 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 20 17:11:46 2019. Yep. Thats the way it was in NYC bars & clubs, be it gay or straight. The NYPD had the "pad" wheras local precient captains would come around to all the gin mills once a week to get their envelope to look the other way as far as noise complaints, underage clientele, fights & dancing happened. Back then, you needed a caberet license to allow dancing. Many local saloons didn't have one but on a Weekend night, many patrons infused with "dancing fluid" would get up & be dancing fools & be allowed to dance the night away, as long as the local captain was happy with his envelope.The local cops didn't care if the bar was mobbed up or not, just as long as cost of doing business was paid...and nobody got shot. Now if you had a topless joint in your precient, that meant for fat envelopes, just in case one of the pasties fell off. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Nov 21 05:17:38 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 20 20:59:58 2019. Reminds me of the series, The Deuce. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 06:52:24 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 20 18:01:46 2019. Yes, gay bars in the Village were still being occasionally raided as late as 1984. I was there when Keller's got raided a couple of times during my sophomore year. They would alleged that there were "underage people" in the club (to my memory, Keller's had a 100% ID check, just like the Monster and the other spots) and shut the place down for a few days. The owners got the message and paid up. It was illegal to serve alcohol to "known homosexuals" until 1986, and the SLA enforced that right up to the last day the law was in effect, too. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 06:56:38 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 20 20:59:58 2019. It is true that all the bars in NYC had to pay tribute to the cops. Places like Keller's and the Stonewall, being gay bars or clubs, just had to pay...more. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 21 11:19:34 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 06:52:24 2019. The SLA, along with NYPD Vice go to those locations because they are following up on a complaint. They just don't make it up out of thin air. And having fake ID does not excuse the bar from getting in trouble. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 21 11:21:04 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 06:56:38 2019. Oh, baloney! More had to pay a vig to the Mob. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 11:33:17 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 21 11:19:34 2019. I beg to differ. Both the Vice Squad and SLA raided our places because they were "illegal", as their patrons were "illegal". They didn't need to be "responding to a complaint" at all.The "underage" canard was just a convenient excuse that couldn't easily be disproven. Keep in mind that back then, homosexuality was closely (and falsely) conflated with pedophilia, making our clubs a very easy "target" that no one cared about. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 11:37:32 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 21 11:21:04 2019. I know for a fact that the vigorish the owner of Keller's had to cough up, was way more than the usual rate, and I also know it was because Keller's was a major gay club. The guys with broken noses had him between the devil and the deep, so he had no choice. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 21 11:38:21 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 11:33:17 2019. Well then, there's your answer! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 21 11:39:00 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 21 11:37:32 2019. It's the cost of doing business, I guess. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Nov 21 18:44:20 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 29 12:55:57 2019. Consider the source |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 21 23:17:33 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Nov 21 18:44:20 2019. Lord have mercy |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 22 10:29:10 2019, in response to Re: Stonewall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 21 11:38:21 2019. I give some leeway for message boards since they're not official statements that get proofread or filled with a lot of tl;dr type information.But this guy either perjured himself in the first post, or circled himself to dizzying height with this whole redicious pile of garbage. |
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