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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Feb 2 19:49:15 2019 Warning: Rated "C."My latest allocution |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 2 19:54:36 2019, in response to My latest allocution, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Feb 2 19:49:15 2019. Feel better now? Melting snowflake |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 2 20:12:33 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 2 19:54:36 2019. Juvenile response. Protecting the life of what he (and me) considers to be a baby is not trivial. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 20:35:28 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 2 20:12:33 2019. It's a personal decision, and must remain so. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 2 20:56:31 2019, in response to My latest allocution, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Feb 2 19:49:15 2019. ? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 2 20:58:34 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 2 20:12:33 2019. abortion appears to lower crime though.NYC saw crime plunge while Atlanta, Miami, Memphis and New Orleans probably wish they had abortion stats like NY because "Southern Hospitality" now means high crime. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 2 21:22:45 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 2 20:58:34 2019. abortion appears to lower crimeYou still go after "the left", but this bit of blatant left-wing propaganda you cling to as if it were truth and not the disgusting lie it's always been. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 2 21:23:48 2019, in response to My latest allocution, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Feb 2 19:49:15 2019. Fitting. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 2 21:50:08 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 2 20:58:34 2019. Fuck you. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 2 21:51:59 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 2 21:50:08 2019. are you drunk again? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Feb 2 22:07:11 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 20:35:28 2019. No it's not. It's a matter of morality. Yours must be held suspect given your history. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 2 22:20:05 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Feb 2 22:07:11 2019. It’s not at all a matter of morality. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 2 22:20:32 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 2 20:12:33 2019. The OP was the one who trivialized a serious topic. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 2 22:46:20 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 2 22:20:32 2019. Easy will ignore that cause you know it points out his hypocrisy. Which for easy is quite often. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 22:57:28 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Feb 2 22:07:11 2019. One's morality is determined by the decisions and actions upon during their lifetime. As you know nothing about mine, you have no place attempting to guess at anything related to mine. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Feb 2 23:23:09 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 22:57:28 2019. I know a lot about you including your early message board days |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 23:41:12 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Feb 2 23:23:09 2019. LOL! I can say the same about you. Doesn't mean a thing. Doesn't tell much bout my life, either. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sat Feb 2 23:51:17 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 22:57:28 2019. Bingbong -re: your first sentence - It's nice and simple and summarizes well.- have you read any Sartre or other existentialist material? I'm changing the subject here [not relating it to the subject content of previous postings] and asking this question seriously - don't mean to sound pretentious or jokey. I've gotten the basic existentialist message (if I'm understanding it correctly) just by reading various articles - reading original Sartre / philsophy can be difficult to understand. IIRC, as I understand it, he arrived at his basic existentialst message (the one that's summarized in articles etc. for the rest of us) after seeing the collapse of French society in mid 1940 - and its subsequent instability due to the shock of defeat. Whom can you trust? Anyone? Who remains true to basic human priciples? Who is collaborating? Can you tell? I think that's when he began writing about each individual being responsible for their morality by his/her own actions. His ideas are more accessible in the trilogy of novels he wrote about that period, the 1st one set in 1938, around the Munich debacle. I started the first (good stuff, but slow to read - you're thinking about every sentence), but it since has been packed away due to everyday life stuff intervening... (there's also a 4th novel - incomplete that was published and I think is out of print) Anyone else's comments - to add to, or correct what I've written above are welcomed. Not my intent to hijack this thread - just responding to this post. Others in this thread's original discussion, you can just bypass this post. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Feb 3 00:21:50 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 2 20:12:33 2019. If you and your ilk so hot about babies' lives, then why not push harder for birth control? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 3 00:32:00 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by 3-9 on Sun Feb 3 00:21:50 2019. How much harder can we push birth control? It's not like some don't know about it or don't have access to it. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 3 01:10:10 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 2 21:51:59 2019. LOLOL! I'm grabbing the popcorn |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 3 03:24:08 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 2 20:12:33 2019. Hardly juvenile.What’s juvenile is misunderstanding what the law states |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 3 03:26:02 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by 3-9 on Sun Feb 3 00:21:50 2019. And vaccination |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 3 10:07:00 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by 3-9 on Sun Feb 3 00:21:50 2019. How about punishing fornication, instead of promoting it?Thanks for coming out as anti-family, never mind pro-venereal disease. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 3 10:07:54 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 3 00:32:00 2019. Very funny. Forgot about Sandra Fluke? She said it ought to all be free. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 3 10:50:39 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Express Rider on Sat Feb 2 23:51:17 2019. Actually yes. Years ago, it yournpost has me searching out my copy of Nausea for another look. As perspective change (at least it does for conscious thinking people) I'm sure my take will be a little different than when I was in my twenties.Right now, I'm getting into some Diderot. In order to stay on your toes, an antidote to all those PBS historic-fiction series I find myself inhaling, doing some good period satire. As to my response there, it's the Catholic and Eastern concepts of good works /karma. How you live, how you treat others is just as important as faith. Beliving in something is easy, living it's a little harder. For some that won't accept it, imposing a singular dogma in a secular society are making it impossible for the majority. Some things should remain personal choices. Here in America we rely on science to provide boundaries. As the science surroundingthe commencement of humanness points to what we call the third trimester (in the human need to organize everything, often to its own frustration), that's where secular law places it. When you research it, that also hews to traditional views. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 3 11:29:43 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by 3-9 on Sun Feb 3 00:21:50 2019. Because it's not about babies. It's about the power to use reprouction and it’s disablng aspects (loss of mobility, inability to lift and move an object, etc.) to oppress women and limit their economic opportunities. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 3 12:40:24 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 3 00:32:00 2019. Actually, plenty don't, nor is there access and certainly not reliable access. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Feb 3 13:17:45 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 3 10:50:39 2019. re: Beliving in something is easy, living it's a little harder.- I thought about this too, but when I wanted to write it in my post, I was never satisfied with the sentence as I wrote it. Agree with you completely on the last paragraph. and as to good works/karma, of course - how could I not have remembered this. I think my relating your response to Sartre and that period, is due to, historically that I admire his personal actions; joining and working with the Resistance, and his ability to articulate his basic idea, that he wrote about later in life; that we are alone and are responsible for our own actions, . It resonates with me. I find it relevant to these times, and how I try (however imperfectly at times) to live my own life. and "How you live, how you treat others is just as faith" is very true (glad you included that), and the basis for many sermons, whether they be on Friday night, Sunday morning, or some other time, that many people in various congregations, probably snooze through. Diderot - your recommendation is going on my list! I've not read anything by him, only got as far as his name, and a paragraph description of him in some Western Civ. class back in school. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 3 17:53:07 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Express Rider on Sun Feb 3 13:17:45 2019. Isn't it funny how it's always comes back to the same thing? “You are what you Eat”. It's so true.Diderot wrote some good satire....we have a tendency to romaniticze the past, perhaps that's the sin inherent with conservatism. Reading satire and critics of a time balances the romance, and can be entertaining as well! And yes, I admire Satre for his working with the French resistance. Risk is also an element of our lives. Be it walking down the street, or even coming here (sometimes...thanks for making it a little more pleasant!). |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Feb 3 18:19:43 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 3 17:53:07 2019. you're welcome. Next time I'm at the library, I'll look and see what Diderot is in their collection. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Feb 3 19:32:21 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 3 10:07:00 2019. I'm totally for the family, and a healthy sex life between the husband and wife. That's why birth control is such an easy answer to preventing pregnancy. Why punish people of legal age for consensual sex? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Feb 3 19:36:04 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 3 00:32:00 2019. Birth control is not something people know how to use by instinct. Plus, it was conservatives who were pushing for wider exemptions for heath care coverage for birth control. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 3 19:52:49 2019, in response to Re: My latest allocution, posted by Express Rider on Sun Feb 3 18:19:43 2019. Do check it out. He's as enlIghtening as he is entertaining. |
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