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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 11:49:19 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 19:49:04 2017. I wanted to find another source than the ones I usually go to, because then it gets into really heavy and esoteric reading.This seems ok for a synopsis of a lot of text sources |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 11:51:33 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 19:49:04 2017. I wanted to find another source than the ones I usually go to, because then it gets into really heavy and esoteric reading.This seems ok for a synopsis of a lot of text sources. I always liked comparing multiple points of view. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 12 12:46:39 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 09:59:32 2017. There was this Jewish Knight in England. He was presented to the Queen. Now anyone presented to the Queen has to bow to her and say a passage in Latin. Well the Jewish Knight didn't know any Latin and the only non English line he ever knew was what he remembered from his Seders so he said "Mah nishtanah halyla hazeh mikol halaylot". The Queen, perplexed then asked "why is this Knight different from all other Knights?" |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 13:03:25 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 12 12:46:39 2017. Big groan. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 12 14:51:45 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 09:49:37 2017. Who knows when this allergy appeared. A quick Google search mentions lactose intolerance, but the symptoms I've heard about are quite a bit more severe. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 12 14:53:26 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 13:03:25 2017. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 15:33:44 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 12 14:51:45 2017. Lactose intolerance is the default condition. The question is when lactose tolerance appeared. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 15:38:49 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 15:33:44 2017. Lactose intolerance is the default condition.??? Human milk contains lactose. Wouldn't lactose tolerance always have been prevalent from the time that mammals evolved? If you had serious lactose intolerance you'd be much less likely to survive to reproduce. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 15:42:47 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 11 22:12:34 2017. Well, it does seem like a large number of Jews have problems with milk proteins (an inherited trait I've never heard that about Jewish people and I've met and spoken with quite a few who are into the whole foodie trend. They do say the Torah tells them not to combine dairy with meat. Some think that was based on experience, as milk is known to block absorption of meat nutrition. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 15:44:38 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 15:38:49 2017. Human milk contains lactose. Wouldn't lactose tolerance always have been prevalent from the time that mammals evolved? If you had serious lactose intolerance you'd be much less likely to survive to reproduce.I think we have evolved or adapted to tolerate lactose. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 15:54:56 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 15:42:47 2017. They do say the Torah tells them not to combine dairy with meatThat's the Talmud. The Torah says not to boil a baby goat in its own mother's milk. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 12 16:19:05 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 15:38:49 2017. Lactose intolerance is something that (normally) develops as people age. People gradually lose the ability to create lactase, the enzyme to digest it. Some groups have a mutation where they maintain the ability throughout adulthood, presumably to survive periods when meat was scarce. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 12 16:21:14 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 15:33:44 2017. The condition I was talking about wasn't lactose intolerance, however. It's an allergy to the protein(s) in milk, not to lactose, the sugar. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 16:23:26 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 12 16:19:05 2017. Oh OK, an intolerance to lactose that starts after age 2 is not something that evolution is going to penalize you for too steeply. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 16:33:19 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 16:23:26 2017. Especially as humans are, IINM, the only animal that commonly drinks the milk of another animal and who drinks that milk in adulthood. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 16:54:39 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 16:33:19 2017. Especially as humans are, IINM, the only animal that commonly drinks the milk of another animal and who drinks that milk in adulthood.That's because we have the intelligence to be able to farm cows and milk them for food. Dogs and cats don't have that ability. But I've seen adult cats and dogs drink milk when it was put in a bowl for them to drink it from. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 17:04:58 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 16:54:39 2017. They are lactose intolerant. It won't kill them to give them milk, but don't. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 17:11:27 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 22:42:36 2017. Let's put it this way. You say "man in the sky" and whatnot, and somehow you are an authority to tell the world what is a fairy tale with your credentials?'nuf said. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 17:19:57 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 01:52:36 2017. I'd love to be able to walk period. It's been years, and multiple states since I've even seen a sidewalk. Even on the High Holidays the traffic is fierce, being less than 1% of the population and all, we make no difference. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 12 19:58:51 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 11 22:12:34 2017. Well, it does seem like a large number of Jews have problems with milk proteins (an inherited trait).I've never heard of that. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 12 20:02:37 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 12 15:38:49 2017. Human milk contains lactose. Wouldn't lactose tolerance always have been prevalent from the time that mammals evolved?In infancy, yes. All infant mammals are lactose tolerant but stop producing lactase enzyme shortly after weaning. Some humans have a mutation called lactase persistence that allows them to remain lactose tolerant into adulthood, but this is by no means the default condition for humans and incredibly rare among mammals as a whole. When Spider-Pig says lactose intolerance is the default condition, he means lactose intolerance after weaning. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 21:03:31 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 12 19:58:51 2017. Me neither. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 12 21:30:39 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017. Nobody cares what you do. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:03:28 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 17:11:27 2017. It's not me saying it. It's science. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:12:58 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 15:42:47 2017. And a book told me that the cow jumped over the moon. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:25:03 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 12 20:02:37 2017. Europeans are the most lactose tolersnt of all of your fake races. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 22:31:21 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:25:03 2017. OK. And? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 22:31:40 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:03:28 2017. Nothing in science about any such thing. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 22:32:14 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:12:58 2017. Red herring. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 22:32:56 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 22:31:40 2017. That’s actually true. There’s also nothing in science saying that there is a God. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:41:37 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 22:31:21 2017. I'm just pointing that out. BTW, I DESPISE milk! Always have, even as a small child. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:42:45 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 22:32:14 2017. I like herring. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 23:05:49 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:42:45 2017. ok.But your post makes no sense. Jewish law prohibits eating meat with milk. Research indicates that milk interferes with mineral absorption. We know that fasting is good for mitochondria. So it makes sense that certain religious laws might be beneficial to us. It's the intellectual aspect of religion. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 23:09:01 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:41:37 2017. What about other dairy products?I don’t like plain milk as a beverage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 23:09:14 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:42:45 2017. Me too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 23:14:45 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 23:09:01 2017. exactly.The only people I know who drink it plain are power lifters trying to jack up their calorie and protein intake. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 23:18:35 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 23:14:45 2017. It was the default beverage for school lunches back during the late 20th Century. I guess now they probably give the kids bottled water. I always either got chocolate milk or paid extra for something else. I think the 8th grade is the last time I drank plain milk. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Wed Apr 12 23:50:53 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 19:48:50 2017. That was soo funny when you posted that last year.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 23:55:44 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by jimmymc25 on Wed Apr 12 23:50:53 2017. how come you did not thread about the judge found dead in NY river.? |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Wed Apr 12 23:59:25 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 23:55:44 2017. Just saw that on the news at 11.Gonna be an interesting story when it all comes out....bless her. Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 13 00:04:33 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 22:25:03 2017. "Europeans" aren't a race.However, northern Europeans are statistically far more likely to have lactase persistence, pale skin, and blond hair. Your point? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 13 00:06:05 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 12 21:30:39 2017. Tell that to all the people who threw a screaming tantrum about it. You included. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 13 00:07:51 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 10:52:34 2017. JUST KISS EACH OTHER ALREADY! |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Apr 13 00:09:29 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by jimmymc25 on Wed Apr 12 23:59:25 2017. That's me being JUST LIKE YOU.....SARCASTIC!See.....you ain't the only one who can do that:) Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 13 00:09:35 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 23:18:35 2017. I got chocolate milk or orange drink as well. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 13 00:10:10 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 23:09:01 2017. I like dairy products, just not plain milk. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 13 00:14:14 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 23:05:49 2017. Oh, I get it. I understand the man-made aspect of it. My thing is that people REALLY believe that "God" said this. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 13 00:15:13 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 12 23:09:14 2017. When I lived with my Jewish ex-girlfriend, they got the good stuff! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 13 00:21:00 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 13 00:04:33 2017. Outs a fun fact, my nigga! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 13 00:21:48 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 13 00:07:51 2017. That's your thing? |
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