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Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 09:39:40 2016 Nearly half of DC employers said they have laid off workers, reduced hours due to minimum wage hikes |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jun 7 09:46:01 2016, in response to Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 09:39:40 2016. Amazing that the liberal rocket scientists thought anything else would be the result. Wendys has already ordered more than 6000 robots that should replace about 20,000 part time workers. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 7 09:56:17 2016, in response to Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 09:39:40 2016. According to the report, just over half of the businesses surveyed said they planned to raise prices in order to offset the cost of a minimum wage hike. Thirty-five percent said they would likely reduce staffing levels and 37 percent said they would reduce employees’ hours or reduce the number of hours they were open for business. Thirty-one percent of businesses said they were very likely to hire more skilled workers in the future to offset the higher wage.Three of those five results are good things all around. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Jun 7 11:15:48 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jun 7 09:46:01 2016. At which point do we start to realize that the US may have a problem with overpopulation and that there may be far more people than jobs available which would require a paradigm shift to keep sustainable? |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Jun 7 11:25:44 2016, in response to Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 09:39:40 2016. Having been job searching in DC itself, this survey is suspect for a ton of reasons:1: What kind of jobs did they survey? Were these offices? Restaurants? Other retail? A small boutique store would get hit more than say Safeway. 2: This backfiring only will drive people to work in Virginia/Maryland where as it is where many already commute to even on the service level. 3: Work in DC proper is heavily divided by education level. Your typical degree holders would rather do "funemployment" if unemployed than go into the service sector and the service sector often looks down on anyone with any education. I speak from experience as a degree holder who was unemployed in DC and told by service jobs to "not bother.: 4: Work in DC is also somewhat divided by race and class and given the CoL and education levels lower income white people just do not exist inside the Beltway. 5: Even with these divisions the glut of internships means this will effect the white collar sector a lot less than it ordinarily would. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jun 7 11:28:34 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Jun 7 11:25:44 2016. The media isn't smart enough to put two and two together.First, they say that internships have to pay. Second, they raise the cost of interns more than double. They will never figure out why internships have dropped. Of course, government gets away with free internships all of the time. Look at their boards. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 7 11:38:51 2016, in response to Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 09:39:40 2016. oh i see so keep the wages low like in texasssssssss??? !!!!! |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:06:52 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Jun 7 11:15:48 2016. At what point do we start to talk about Malthus again? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 12:08:45 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Jun 7 11:15:48 2016. By "overpopulation", do you mean illegal alien immigration?The average population density of the USA is still about 35 people per square mile, genius. That's very low. Red China is 145 people per square mile even in spite of their almost 1.4 billion population. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 12:09:28 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:06:52 2016. Took the word out of my mouth. Thirty-five people per square mile is certainly not the time. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 12:09:34 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 7 11:38:51 2016. Go back to sleep, Stumpy. It's what you do best. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:16:25 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 12:08:45 2016. I have a colleague who grew up in China before coming to the U.S. with tech degrees. She still marvels at how clean the air is in New York and Long Island. Not only the pollution but I never knew that Beijing gets dust storms from the Gobi Desert.So don't start thinking that the comparative density of China and the U.S. means we can squeeze in another 110 people per square mile before things get bad. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:18:35 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 12:09:28 2016. Not just the US. Massive population elsewhere is not a dependable isolate. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 7 12:22:42 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 12:09:34 2016. and if i refuse what you gonna do ?STFU davey from texassss |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 7 12:27:08 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:06:52 2016. Not in our lifetimes. For now, food technology is keeping up with population. We are better able to feed the world than ever before.And as world health improves, people stop having 6 kids when they realize that the first 2 will actually live to adulthood. That demographic change happens with incredible rapidity. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 12:34:54 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:16:25 2016. I wasn't saying anything in the context of us being underpopulated either. But we sure aren't overpopulated by a long shot. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:45:43 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 7 12:27:08 2016. I have heard these assertions in reply to Malthus as long as I can remember, especially in socialist theory.Since WWII food and medical technology have enabled the world to sustain a growing population. But a controlled population as a response? When I was born the world population was under 2.5 billion. When Kennedy was elected it was ~3 billion. When Clinton was elected it was ~5.5 billion. Now it is ~7.4 billion. In my one lifetime world population has more than tripled. That "incredible rapidity" of demographic change you're talking about is lagging a bit. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 7 12:55:44 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:45:43 2016. That "incredible rapidity" of demographic change you're talking about is lagging a bit.There are still a lot of places left where parents can't be reasonably sure their children will live to adulthood. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:59:02 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 12:34:54 2016. We don't yet have a United Nations with enforcement powers that can overrule national sovereignty; but if they should someday decide to "distribute world population more equitably" they might well be able to make demographic changes in countries like the U.S. with stunning rapidity* that will make the current illegal immigrant number look like chump change.*with some help from compassionate, forward-looking quislings. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 13:00:10 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 7 12:55:44 2016. And you think those are the only places population is growing? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 14:02:46 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 12:59:02 2016. We don't yet have a United Nations with enforcement powers that can overrule national sovereigntyAnd that better not ever happen. Alger Hiss modeled the UN charter after the USSR's 1936 constitution. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 7 14:04:36 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 13:00:10 2016. Those are the only places where people are having significantly more than 2 children on average.Don't forget there is a huge lag effect. If, Nigeria, say, were to instantly stop having more than two children per adult, it would be a very long time before its population leveled off. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 14:06:03 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 14:02:46 2016. Well, the Soviet Union adopted that great (in theory) Constitution but never followed it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 14:08:12 2016, in response to Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 09:39:40 2016. Fox?"Employment Policies Institute"? "Washington Free Beacon"? (Is it maybe grail-shaped?)Got credible sources? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 14:09:20 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 7 14:06:03 2016. Sure they did. They always took the "out" clause in the form of "in the interest of the working class", which empowered the dictatorship. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 15:04:56 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 14:08:12 2016. Lulz. Google is your friend so try looking it up yourself. The story is out there.My bad; I keep forgetting you don't know how to use Google. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 7 15:08:10 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 15:04:56 2016. STFU davey from texassssssssss |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jun 7 15:08:28 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 14:08:12 2016. Geez. Are you that stupid? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 17:27:43 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 15:04:56 2016. So why disn't you post a credible source if there is one? And that doesn't speak to the credibility of the "employment policy institute". |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 17:28:39 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jun 7 15:08:28 2016. No, but I do believe you are. You believed that. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 7 20:01:23 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 7 12:34:54 2016. My thought has always been to try and encourage people to move into cities. If population increases are handled vertically, not only is greater efficiency achieved, but "green space"/nature will always be available. I don't need an acre of backyard I have to maintain - when I want rugged nature I go to one of several nearby state parks. When I want carefully curated gardens I go to nearby city parks.The people crying most about overpopulation are the ones who move into unspoiled, still wild areas worsening the very problem they complain about. I have a co-worker who is exactly like this, says there's too many people in the world and proceeded to build a house on a 13 acre plot of land. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 7 20:21:47 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jun 7 20:01:23 2016. There's no need to encourage anything. As resources become more scarce, they'll become more expensive such that your co-worker will be unable to afford 13 acres. Until then, it's fine to an extent. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:08:29 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 17:27:43 2016. Because I enjoy reading Fox News, which is a credible news source and the No. 1 ratings player in cable news, well ahead of CNN. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 7 22:16:38 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:08:29 2016. No. 1 ratings player in cable newsMcDonald's beats all the 4-start restaurants in the world in sales. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 7 22:19:13 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 7 22:16:38 2016. PWN3D! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 7 22:21:09 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:08:29 2016. The problem with Fox News though is that their reporting is completely one-sided, the modern day equivalent of Goebbel's "Der Angriff". It has always existed for one purpose, to promote "Republican values" in the hands of its operator, republican faithful Roger Ailes. It's only "credible" in terms of its purity in promoting the party agenda, certainly not as a news organization which is supposed to be completely impartial.Fox News has been such a cancer on journalism, that its competitors aren't credible either these days, trying to hook whatever fragment of audiences that doesn't watch Fox News. Good for them on their ratings, look at what captures the ratings for "entertainment" these days. Not impressive either. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:43:40 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 7 22:21:09 2016. As opposed to CNN and MSNBC, which are completely impartial? LOL! I find Fox no better nor worse than the others when it comes to impartiality. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 7 22:48:36 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:43:40 2016. What did I just finish saying? I have no use for those either. Same reason, different philosophies. Although those other two at least pretend to find something for both sides to sit through in utter disbelief. :) |
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Posted by FtgreeneG on Tue Jun 7 22:54:48 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:43:40 2016. They're all terrible to varying degrees (MSNBC, CNN, Fox News). Just tell me the news and let me make my own conclusions. As soon as someone tells their impartial pov can't trust any of the news they report to be impartial. |
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Posted by FtgreeneG on Tue Jun 7 22:56:50 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by FtgreeneG on Tue Jun 7 22:54:48 2016. Correction 'As soon as someone tells their PARTIAL P.O.V can't trust any of the news they report to be impartial.' |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 7 23:18:33 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by FtgreeneG on Tue Jun 7 22:54:48 2016. Television news is universally garbage. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 23:40:33 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:08:29 2016. No, its not credible its editorialized. And I could care less about cable news ratings. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 7 23:42:45 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 23:40:33 2016. lol |
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Posted by FtgreeneG on Tue Jun 7 23:46:09 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 7 23:18:33 2016. Yup 100% correct |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 8 00:23:50 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:43:40 2016. Correct. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 8 09:18:20 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Tue Jun 7 22:43:40 2016. Fox is co pletely editorialized news. Just look at this story. Negative consequences for something that helps poor people. A RW "institute" to make it appear legitimate. Wouldn't doubt that Fox set some intern up AS that "institute". |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 8 09:30:12 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by FtgreeneG on Tue Jun 7 23:46:09 2016. I only watch for the hot babes :)Unfortunately, Fox seems to have cornered the market in that category. MSNBC is a vast wasteland, with a few exceptions (Betty Nguyen for one). CNN as usual in the middle (though they do have the lovely Robin Meade on their sister netowrk, HLN) :)  > |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jun 8 17:27:03 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 8 09:18:20 2016. WABB!EPI has been around since 1991. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jun 8 17:33:18 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 7 23:40:33 2016. Just like CNN editorializes. It's even less credible. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 8 17:55:00 2016, in response to Re: Minimum wage hike in DC costs lots of jobs, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 8 17:27:03 2016. What exactly was I weong about? Speculatin? Never stated that was the case. Still doesn't chnage that I never heard of them either. Bet most here didn't as well, but they'll never admit it. |
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