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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 13:36:14 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 12:56:11 2015.

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Heh. That's lawyerspeak though. We have some really smart attorneys who write up those lengthy "terms and conditions" things, but truth be told - when it comes to them and actual technology, they couldn't do a PRAM reset if we physically glued their fingers to the keyboard.

If things really were as you think they are, then my job would be helluva lot easier when tracking down lost files, itunes store fraud, and a raft of other things for which that icloud data is entirely useless to us. What's being talked about there is things which are sent in plain text such as icloud.com email, SMS text messages and the like. All of our stuff within our own world that doesn't have to go to androids and other devices is encrypted and stays that way before it ever leaves the device.

Email and SMS though has to be in plain text because of the way the protocols work. But even THOSE, within our own system, are encrypted before going on to their destination where it HAS to be decrypted.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 13:44:24 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 12:56:21 2015.

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Dewd ... I *make* that Apple juice. Things are very different under Tim than they were under "Teh Steve" for both better and worse. But as to the sources, as soon as we write new code and make sure that it works, we update what we publish because letting developers have full access to how things really works ensures that their code will work better and we won't get blamed for their whoopsies. :)

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 20:29:28 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 13:44:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you're seriously trying to claim that Mac OS is open source? That I could download the code from the link you provided earlier, compile it, and create a hackintosh out of any computer?

Come on, you're not fooling anybody.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 23:40:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 20:29:28 2015.

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There ARE a few provisos of course. You would need to compile it with CLANG version 4 or higher compiler, and for the include files to pull in the right hardware data, you would have to compile it on a current Mac if you want El Capitan at the end of the 26 hour compile. The OTHER catch is the hardware itself, you would need the same hardware that Apple uses since the drivers are written only for what we actually sell. If you want to have it run on anything else, you would have to write your own code for that since there was no need for us to write for unsupported hardware but it's not all that hard - FreeBSD 11 current has drivers for pretty much anything you need.

I'm still running Yosemite on my Toshiba laptop with an AMD processor on it. But yeah, you could.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 23:55:02 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 23:40:11 2015.

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OK, post the source code to "Dont Steal Mac OS X.kext" then.

And where's the source code to Finder? I'll see if I can port that to Linux to get at least a familiar UI on my Lubuntu laptop.

Come on, we all know OSX isn't open source.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 00:05:42 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 23:55:02 2015.

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Well ... finder is actually a compilation of numerous pieces into the GUI, but everything is here for Yosemite:

http://opensource.apple.com/release/os-x-1010/

1011 hasn't been published yet though.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 01:41:40 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 13:23:40 2015.

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It's not removable. And it's not local. I want fast access to my data.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 01:46:28 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 01:41:40 2015.

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Well ... there's always WINDOWS PHONE. :)

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:02:58 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 00:05:42 2015.

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Well ... finder is actually a compilation of numerous pieces into the GUI...

And it isn't in there because Finder is proprietary.

The kernel extension I mentioned earlier is also not available because it enforces DRM— something that an actual open source system doesn't have because it can be trivially stripped out.

Mac OS is proprietary and absurdly locked down even compared to Windoze. Yes, it's built using open source components, and yes Apple provides the source code to those components but Mac OS itself is not open source and I don't know who you think you're trying to fool claiming that it is.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:10:46 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 13:23:40 2015.

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And if I try recording a RFW video from 207th to Lefferts but run out of storage space around Utica Avenue, how will I use that 1 TB to complete my video when it isn't on my phone and I don't have a signal while underground?

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:12:23 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 01:46:28 2015.

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Or Android. When a RFW showed up unexpectedly, I just took my camera's memory card and stuffed it in my phone for the duration. Couldn't do that with a Fruit now, could I?

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:14:46 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 01:41:40 2015.

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Rare though it is for me to agree with you, of all people, I think you're exactly right on this one.

Cloud services are slow and unreliable, and these two problems are compounded when out and on my phone where internet connections become flaky.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:24:42 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:02:58 2015.

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Yes as far as kext's go, those are "kernel EXTENSIONS" and are usually proprietary device drivers with shitloads of non-disclosures" involved. If we and Windows didn't agree with letting some vendors do that so we can make our stuff work, then you'll be running a Kindle Fire or a google lunchbox toy. You HAVE to give the entertainment industry their due and keep it tipper-topper secret than our nuclear launch codes or you'll have to get a car and go to the drive-in, no more media for you. And I'm sure I don't have to tell you how much of Apple's business is what Carl Icahn refers to as "recurring revenue, royalities and rents." Wall Street LOVES that shit. :(

That all said, pretty much everything is out there as open source, and despite Stallman's recurring shit, the only proprietary code we CAN'T release is related to whatever makes Hollywood and MTV shit their pants. NDA's are everything. Stallman will have none of that which is why the last release ever for Adobe Flash was way back in version 11 with NOTHING for updating.

If it's ANY comfort to you though, FreeBSD has access to far more of Apple's code because it's where iOS and OS X "userland" came from. BSD uses the Clang compiler instead of that GNU crap because when you can compile completely broken code without a single warning or error, and then watch it blow completely up in "production." If something we need to make things work is proprietary and all it requires is packaging it as a binary blob in KNOS, so be it. We have enough faith in our security design so that if it ever really WANTED to launch a rootkit, the authors would be highly unhappy at the non-result. In fact, one of the major hangups in the net release is all the DRM and rootkits that ALL of the websites want now, and are provided in Windows, or not provided at all. But I can't go into Apple's solution, it's different than what KNOS is being held up for.

We're planning to get around it by putting up a fake HAL level, setting up a direct in and out pipe to DBUS, and basically faking the "Wave the OK flag, all's well" at DRM. But in order to be able to LEGALLY do that, we also have to redesign KNOS' code so that you can watch, but you cannot copy. That's damned hard to do without permitting them to install a rootkit, but we're still working on it. As to Apple, they've found another way around it that's OK with Hollywood because it guarantees denial of service except for viewing and not recording. Can't go into the details, but privacy HERE is protected too.

So stop reading 6 year old Stallman bullshit. Way back in 2000, Apple was among the very first "big OS's" to publicly release sources except for which we're contractually bound by others not to release. If you've comparing Apple and Linux, you're REALLY downloading the wrong source tree. Microsoft was the very first REQUIRED to release ALL of their source to China and many other places as a result of our putting it out there way back when.

No, it cannot be complete for the reasons cited above. But aside from encryption and DRM stuff, it really IS out there. You'll want to look for the kernel code by using "XNU" to search, we haven't called it "MACH" in ages although a good amount of what's in there is Wozniak's (of all people, he was a power supply guy and here, his code is living on longer than any of his electronics, and he HATES coding). It's been updated, but do keep in mind that the XNU and OS10 code is the difference between kernel and userland coding.

It really IS all out there, but XNU and Userland are two different worlds. Same with FreeBSD. They're unlike Linux in that they package both pure kernel as well as userland into a highly organized realm of separation. Apple does the same. Everything that we CAN'T release is out there, subject to an entire auditorium of attorneys. We put out as much as we possibly can because we welcome people spotting things like "goto fail" before somebody ELSE spots it.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:37:30 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:10:46 2015.

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You won't until you upload it. Don't mind me, I'm trying to write some code for myself here, but lemme put it this way since I'm short on time. If you can afford a 6s+, then picking up a go pro is pretty cheap. A REAL camera will do that, bear in mind that it's just a phone. :)

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by TonyG on Thu Oct 8 02:37:39 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:12:23 2015.

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The Samsung GS6 also no longer contains a memory card slot.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:40:29 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TonyG on Thu Oct 8 02:37:39 2015.

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Shhhhh! Don't spoil it for him. :)

NOBODY does anymore. Too expensive to put a socket in there. We never went with the capability because anything you plug into a computer or device has ROOT ACCESS because the bare system needs to talk to it. There's too few people anymore that had a computer long enough ago to remember what would happen to it if you plugged in a random floppy.

USB's are nothing more than much larger random floppies. There are thousands of exploits over the years that will gladly copy that shit over to your device. We considered defending against it as the losing battle that Windows users have to deal with daily. :(

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:43:14 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:12:23 2015.

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And nope ... by design. No offense, but I probably would have used the camera myself. :)

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:45:52 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:14:46 2015.

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Absolutely agree here too. However ... people seem to forget that cell phones and other "media consumption devices" are intended for ordinary recreational use. If you really want to do anything serious, then you really should be using the correct tool for the task.

For photography and video, a go pro is pretty damned good. If you're REALLY into it though, a drone with a camera and remote is even better. And there's a small handful of them that can fly faster forward than any train you're on so you can wave at your camera from the RFW. Sorry, selfiecam just don't cut it. :)

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Dave on Thu Oct 8 07:52:29 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:40:29 2015.

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NOBODY does anymore. Too expensive to put a socket in there.

The following new or nearly new smartphones have microSD card support:

BlackBerry Passport
Sony Xperia Z3 and Z4
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and Note Edge
Huawei Honor 6 Plus
LG G Flex 2
Asus ZenFone 2
HTC One M9
LG G4

It has nothing to do with the expense of putting in a socket. It's because manufacturers can't charge a premium for an SD card slot, but they can charge $100 for a few extra gigabytes of flash storage.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 07:56:46 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 01:46:28 2015.

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Nope.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 07:57:26 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:45:52 2015.

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Wrong. You're completely wrong. As usual.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 07:58:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 02:14:46 2015.

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Maybe you should agree with me more then, seeing as I'm usually correct.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 07:59:50 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:24:42 2015.

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Just admit you're wrong. No one who values their time is going to read all that.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 08:07:19 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:37:30 2015.

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You don't need a real camera to take decent video. You're wrong. You're also wrong about the price and affordability. There's no good reason to get a + phone. And my top of the line 6S cost me far less than a top of the line GoPro. You just love being wrong, don't you?

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 8 10:10:35 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:40:29 2015.

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But why does an SD card slot need the same openness as a USB port? The purpose of a card slot is much narrower than a USB port - I would think that a machine doesn't need to get anything executable from the SD card to read it. Floppies by themselves weren't dangerous until you tried to boot from them or run an executable from them.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Oct 8 12:22:13 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 08:07:19 2015.

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There's no good reason to get a + phone.

What about OIS? The iPhone 6s Plus has optical image stabilization for stills and video. The 6s lacks it for both.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 13:09:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 8 07:52:29 2015.

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Heh. I was making a snide comment about cost accountants in manufacturing there. For Apple, the real issue is security. For the googlephone folks, security was never a concern. You'll see those sockets going away though because even google has come to realize that there's money to be made by selling puffy clouds.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 13:11:59 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 8 10:10:35 2015.

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SD cards use the very same USB bus as an actual USB device as far as the operating system goes, and the same code drivers. They're merely two different "form factors" that have the same requirements and do the same thing. Neither USB cards, nor SD cards are passive. In order to find and move the data contained in all those cells in there, they require a microcontroller in each device to do that. That's where the problem comes down because the operating system has to communicate with that microcontroller in order to do its thing. At the system level.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 8 14:25:47 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Oct 8 12:22:13 2015.

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I've never had a problem with camera shake using my iPhone cameras.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 8 14:31:09 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 13:09:11 2015.

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Puffy clouds cost money if you don't have an unlimited cell data plan.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 17:39:43 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 8 14:31:09 2015.

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Ever hear of wifi?

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:01 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TonyG on Thu Oct 8 02:37:39 2015.

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I'll be sure not to get one then.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:02 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 17:39:43 2015.

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SD slots are a major security threat but public wifi isn't?

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:05 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:24:42 2015.

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Yes as far as kext's go, those are "kernel EXTENSIONS" and are usually proprietary device drivers with shitloads of non-disclosures" involved.

Yes, and the one I mentioned specifically is not a device driver. It's there to enforce DRM on Mac OSX itself— because Mac OS is a proprietary system and Apple wants to keep it locked down as all fuck.

But I can't go into Apple's solution, it's different than what KNOS is being held up for.

Why not?

Oh right, it's proprietary.

Way back in 2000, Apple was among the very first "big OS's" to publicly release sources except for which we're contractually bound by others not to release.

OK, so how do I make Finder on Yosemite act like Finder on Snow Leopard? The change in user interface is incredibly annoying, and if it's actually open source it should be easy to swap one for the other.

If it's ANY comfort to you though, FreeBSD has access to far more of Apple's code because it's where iOS and OS X "userland" came from.

Hold up...

You're not seriously claiming iOS is open source now too?

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:08 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:45:52 2015.

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For photography and video, a go pro is pretty damned good.

Yes, but it's not nearly as omnipresent as a phone.

When I took the RFW video I mentioned earlier, it was because I found said window by accident— I wasn't out railfanning per se, and I didn't have most of my gear with me. If I had a go pro, I would not have had it handy.

If you're REALLY into it though, a drone with a camera and remote is even better. And there's a small handful of them that can fly faster forward than any train you're on so you can wave at your camera from the RFW.

Yuh huh. Right, I can totally fly a drone through subway tunnels and wave at it as the motorman dumps the train because that thing does not belong in a tunnel, is a major safety hazard, and so forth.

Or were you suggesting I'd fly the drone into the cab through a side window and record a RFW video on an R188 by having it hover there, then bribe the motorman to ignore it?

Because getting a RFW video on a train with a transverse cab by way of a cell phone and a roll of duct tape is actually vaguely plausible, but I don't know how the drone version would work.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:10 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 07:58:11 2015.

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Don't push your luck, kid.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:43:14 2015.

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Camera doesn't take video.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:14 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 02:37:30 2015.

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You won't until you upload it.

Yes, and by the time I've uploaded it, the RFW will be laid up in Pitkin Yard and the video will thus terminate at Utica Avenue.

If you can afford a 6s+, then picking up a go pro is pretty cheap.

Key distinction: I have my phone with me all the time, but I don't always have my camera handy. If I had a go pro, I wouldn't have that with me all the time either.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:18 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 8 07:59:50 2015.

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Hey, no need to assume everyone is as petulant and impatient as you are.

I read all of that. It's flat-out wrong, but I read it.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 8 21:17:45 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 02:13:49 2015.

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I downloaded El Capitan last week. As arguably the preeminent male stewardess, foremost hypocrite, and leading racist on this site, monikers bestowed upon me by many of you, I placed my MacBook Pro into Shutdown state, something I rarely do, before I left on my last trip. Upon my return I powered up said device and was pleasantly surprised to discover it was ready to go in about 10 seconds as opposed to the heretofore usual 45 - 50 seconds it took over these last couple years (Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite). The first year (Lion) it took about 15 seconds. Unless it is coincidence, El Capitan seems to have increased performance at least in terms of bootup.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 8 21:30:27 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 8 21:17:45 2015.

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Oh yeah, I periodically cleaned "history", removed memory intensive processes (Activity Monitor), repaired disk permissions, etc. to no avail. At least I will not need to manually repair permissions anymore with El Capitan running. Tragically, my algorithm based, open source code, something which has served me well these last couple years by quote capturing data unquote on this site, seems to have ceased functioning altogether.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 8 21:31:17 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 8 21:30:27 2015.

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I like the split screen view.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Dave on Thu Oct 8 21:41:28 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:11 2015.

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Most DSLR's can record video as well as stills.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 22:19:10 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 8 21:41:28 2015.

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Not mine.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 8 23:59:28 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:02 2015.

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Wifi signals don't need root privileges. The radio handles that level at userland privileges. The data on USB's or over cellular or wifi isn't the issue. The built-in radios need root privileges because they have microcontrollers in there. Those were installed at the factory and are known clean, and there's no firmware path that can be reached by the data traveling over it.

The issue with USB sticks is that the firmware that controls how they work DOES have root privileges to identify it and tell the kernel how the structures are laid out. Since the USB and SD standards will allow these devices to perform other duties (such as keyboard, mouse, any other number of things) then they must be able to talk directly to the CPU bus. That's where the exploits have been, modifying the firmware of the devices themselves which can then put any instructions some malicious type wants directly into the CPU with root privileges. We consider that pretty dangerous.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:04:48 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:05 2015.

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If you link the code from the old snow leopard version with the latest libraries (there's plenty of deliberate retro in KNOS because I prefer the style) and compile it, then you really could do that. You'd just need all the pieces and would have to modify the makefile to link up the stuff you wanted.

iOS? A good amount of it is ... download XCODE and it's in there. You DO have to buy a developer license because you also get crypto keys as part of the price because everything we do in iOS is encrypted and requires signing.

If your definition of "open source" though is "I ain't paying a penny" then looks like Stallman is about as good as it gets. Did you know that as of Mavericks, iOS and XNU and OSX are slowly merging into a single realm and there's plenty of iOS code in what was released for free to the public? Same API's, same calls, and we're even merging the GUI stuff and features between the two.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:05:58 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:08 2015.

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Dewd ... you seem to be losing your sense of whimsy as far as the drone thing goes. Lighten up a bit.

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:06:47 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:11 2015.

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Gee ... even an old POS Nikon snapshot toy from around 2005 did that. What kind of crap are they selling these days? :)

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:08:27 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 8 20:39:14 2015.

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No worries ... really sounds like you want a Samsung brick ...

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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 9 00:15:05 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 8 21:17:45 2015.

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The last three releases were pretty crappy, and caused me to be embarrassed to tell folks where I work who owned Macs. El Cap is mindblowingly good, reliable and after the two previous trainwrecks, a blessed relief.

Sir Jony was in charge of coders over that duration as well as messing up iOS 7 and 8. After several unfortunate debacles, Tim *finally* promoted him up and out of the way of those of us who wanted working code instead of fucking around with pastel colors and obtuse graphical nonsense and were FINALLY able to actually write proper code and not push it out the door until it was really ready.

I'm delighted! :)

Sir Jony has been returned to his home planet of Qo'noS where we can't hear him demanding brighter colors anymore. It's really true about Klingon coders.



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