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Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 01:38:11 2015, in response to I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TonyG on Mon Oct 5 01:20:33 2015. The one major disadvantage of the android world is that everything runs on Oracle's "JAVA" (not to be confused with java script). Java has its moments, but it's a portable equivalent to Microsoft Basic and every bit as full of unpredictable outcomes, especially crashes, forgetting its green card and being readily exploited because java has always been shit. Now that Leisure Boat Larry (Oracle) owns it, it's only gotten worse.Computers (and your toy really is one) are highly dependent on high quality code if you want it to work. XCODE is real code and as long as those who develop for it code properly, it's as reliable as any other UNIX. iOS7 and 8 went through some horrible teething pains because they were all features over substance. iOS9? I am impressed that they finally allowed the engineers to say no. If only our leader hadn't rushed out 9.0 and 9.0.1 because it was scheduled for a certain date, the initial release would have been the 9.0.2 that's out there now. It's finally good. :) And if you have a Mac, El Capitan is also fully ready for prime time too! That's really been impressing my ass. |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Oct 5 02:04:02 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 01:38:11 2015. I don't have a Mac. I don't use my PC enough to make the dollar investment for a Mac. I've got a Dell desktop I purchased in 2007 (and is still alive and well) and an Acer laptop I purchased in 2009 (and is also alive and well). The Dell runs Windows 7 and the Acer has Windows 10.As far as Apple is concerned, I have an iPhone 6s and a 3rd generation iPad that I bought in March 2012. My wife has an iPhone 5s. By the way, I was ecstatic when I found out that I could upgrade my 3.5 year old iPad to iOS 9. I loved my Galaxy S4 when I got it. It seems that both time and Android updates finally made the phone FUBAR. The last straw was that I had the phone connected to the charger and it started burning my charging cable and overheating like crazy when plugged in to the point where I couldn't recharge the battery. The thing I am going to miss the most is the lack of a microSD port. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 02:13:49 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TonyG on Mon Oct 5 02:04:02 2015. Yeah, that was a handy piece, those eternal cards. Apple doesn't support it though because it's security hell. That's why we don't do that. One of the nice things about iOS is that each and every single everything runs in its own bucket, completely separate from everything else. Pisses off the Chinese and Russkies to no end because our stuff can't get pwned. A little bit of KNOS in every device. :)Your old phone clearly had a background app that was running it to 100% CPU and that's why everything was overheating on you. Common issue when Java doesn't know whether to shit or go blind and not just crash the offending app and let you know something's wrong. But you definitely had something bad running on there, either really shitty code or your phone got pwned. And if it's any comfort, what Macs we do have here have long been no longer supported for anything newer than the 0.5.8 "Leopard" version. They all run KNOS, as does all of my former Windows machines such as this Toshiba. In fact, I've been helping Bingbong's folks get a new 10.1 KNOS together which should be out soon. But for anyone who DOES own a Mac, the latest El Capitan is VERY good. Speedy, reliable and rock solid. The previous releases, "Mavericks" and "Yosemite" both blew goats, so I'm quite relieved that they FINALLY let us get THIS one right. :) |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Oct 5 03:51:26 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 01:38:11 2015. The results are less than stellar when you combine that with subpar hardware. I was surprised to learn their processors had fallen so far behind. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 04:01:19 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Oct 5 03:51:26 2015. Javascript is one of the most awful horrors that has ever been unleashed upon the world. It all started with the original Netscape 2 to allow advertisers from doubleclick (now part of google) to see if their ads displayed, and upon condition of buttons which weren't good enough to add a link to, or post to a server-side action. Javascript over the years got monstrously overladen with all sorts of tricks and crap which should have instead be handled by good CSS code on the servers or at least someone who could write some perl, python, or other server-side scripting language that would produce the desired appearance on a web page. Javascript is the bane of any coder who wants a fast and reliable "user eperience". Javascript sucks.Bad code can bring a processor to its knees, even if you have the newest and shiniest. It's truly sad that so very few people have any idea of how to code beyond copypasta'ing somebody else's shit code. :( But yeah, for what you pay for with us, the hardware is at least 21st century. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 04:18:34 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Oct 5 03:51:26 2015. For what it's worth, despite what Jeff Atwood said there, one of the things about iOS is that even old 4S vintage with a shitty 800 MHz A5 chip in it phones can run iOS9, our latest.The REAL issue once again is having something like Java running everything. Java is an INTERPRETER, it never could run compiled code written in machine instructions directly on the CPU without any other intervention. Googlephones use Java to do everything. There's not all those many folks around who remember what Microsoft BASIC was like. Yeah, you could program it to do lots of cool things, but it was pokey as shit because every line of code you wrote in a BASIC script had to be read in, then BASIC would figure out what you wanted to do and then executed it all by a compiler for each line of instruction you wrote, and then wait to see if there was a result. This slows the SHIT out of even the fastest processors. When you write REAL code, you're sending and receiving direct stack instructions themselves directly from the CPU. No "middlemen" to interpret, analyze, dump as machine instructions to the CPU and then wait for a result and figure out what to tell YOU after each step. That's why Java (the core of android and several other Linux-base phones) will blow goats no matter WHAT you run it on. Too many things in the way for each and every clock cycle of the CPU. Too busy looking up what you wanted to DO it. Add a slow processor to DO all that, and well ... no surprise. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 5 09:57:53 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 02:13:49 2015. Hmm, I'm 6 1/2 years in on my Mini (interesting that you mentioned 10.5.8 because that's what I am running). So I don't exist according to Apple. So I think a change will be in order soon. What numerical version OS is El Capitan?Only thing I hate, if I get another mini, I'll have to add a CD/DVD external drive since the Apple geniuess are all "ZOMG Cloud/USBDrives/etc, etc" Guess I'm old school. Such is life I will say one thing, this Mini has lasted longer than my previous 2 Macs combined :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 5 10:12:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 5 09:57:53 2015. 10.11 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 14:32:34 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 5 09:57:53 2015. Yep, 10.11 like Pigs said. And just so you're aware, none of the super drives (DVD) do blueray, so you'll want to buy one of those from some other vendor. Another thing we've been eliminating is twirling metal hard drives. You'll get SSD in the new minis, soldered down to the main board. The minis are quite powerful though, you won't be disappointed. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 5 15:29:42 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 5 10:12:11 2015. Thanks |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Oct 5 16:25:05 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 02:13:49 2015. I never realized they Java and apps could eventually kill the hardware. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 19:44:46 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TonyG on Mon Oct 5 16:25:05 2015. Oh yeah ... and each app requires its own separate instance of java running so it can run, and things get full up fast. Especially when they never really shut down. Add to that badly done updates, some carrier software that google never knew about running down a lithium ion battery to death and when they get weak, it draws more current than before for each charge cycle.Java's main benefit is that you can write code once and pretty much any different operating system can run it. But it's a bloated pig kind of a house of cards because of that "portability." |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 5 21:08:21 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 14:32:34 2015. You'll get SSD in the new minis, soldered down to the main board.That's not cool. What happens if you want to replace it? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 5 21:42:53 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 01:38:11 2015. And if you have a Mac, El Capitan is also fully ready for prime time too!Ooh, can I install it on my PowerMac G4? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 5 21:45:26 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 02:13:49 2015. But for anyone who DOES own a Mac, the latest El Capitan is VERY good. Speedy, reliable and rock solid.And, from what I've heard, more than a little packed with malware. Some of us actually consider it a bad thing when a computer uploads user data to remote servers without permission or notifying you that it's doing so. No, servers owned by Apple are not an exception. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 23:28:10 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 5 21:08:21 2015. Externals are cheap and often far more spacious, and if there's an issue with the onboard SSD, they replace the system board and you get a fresh, shiny new one. SSD's are incredibly reliable though. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 23:29:08 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 5 21:42:53 2015. Heh. Go away, son. :)Time to line up and pay tribute. You know how it works. (grin) Pretty much anything from mid-2011 and onward can do it though. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 23:32:04 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 5 21:45:26 2015. Nope ... no malware at all, that's the part of Apple that I deal with to keep bad things out and away. You might be interested in Tim's article on that:http://www.apple.com/privacy/ He speaks the truth, I'm part of that operation. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 5 23:51:40 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 23:32:04 2015. My point is that when a Mac uploads my data to Icloud without permission, then that is malware from my perspective.The fact that it's malware baked in by the manufacturer for the benefit of the manufacturer is irrelevant to the fact that it is, in fact, malware. Because once anything is in Icloud, it gets handed over to the NSA et al, which makes it effectively public. Even files that are never saved get surreptitiously uploaded to Apple's servers. Besides, while it would be bad enough if they "merely" handed everything over to the NSA, I don't believe for a second that they're not also selling this stuff to advertisers in some capacity. Fact is, Apple gadgets are a privacy nightmare and I have no intention of buying them in the future. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 23:58:42 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 5 23:51:40 2015. Not so. You have to sign in to icloud in order for any data to go there, each and every type of data has its own checkbox as to whether or not you want it there or not, and signing out of icloud shuts that door completely. On our phones, and on Macs from Mavericks onward, the data is fully encrypted and Apple doesn't have the key to decode it, that's entirely on your machine(s) using either a passcode (if you chose one) along with your secret password which never leaves your device. That password never gets transmitted to Apple, we do a SHA256 hash code token which confirms that your password stored in your device matches what you typed in. The way it works can annoy the shit out of customers when they turned on things like "Find my iphone" and can't remember the password they entered WHEN they turned it on. If they change the password along the way, then it won't match and our account security folks have to help them un-disable their device. We handle a lot of those.As to the NSA, we completely redesigned all of that last year when they decided that we should be handing over that data to them. Since we designed things so that we don't even have the encryption keys (YOU do) that completely shut the door on them being able to decode any of your stuff. Have a look here: http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-and-others-encrypt-phones-fueling-government-standoff-1416367801 They were fucking pissed. :) Bottom line though, you can't turn over what you don't have to begin with. Pretty clever, no? (grin) |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Oct 6 00:03:32 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 5 23:51:40 2015. Do you plan on going full Stallman? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 00:09:13 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Oct 6 00:03:32 2015. Heh. Been a while since I saw that. Linux is now at the tail end of what you want if security is important with systemd and other humongous holes spreading to every other distro now.One of the things that's been holding up our next KNOS release is that so many programs from Linux have ended up getting ported from Linux to the FreeBSD code that we use as our jumping off point that reviewing all of the hideous code (and quite a few backdoors that we've found in the encryption code that nobody in the Linux realm ever spotted) has pretty much killed my spare time for that lately. Stallman continues to be an asshole. I wish him luck. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 00:10:34 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 00:09:13 2015. Clarification needed: KNOS is bingbong and my thing, a different OS. Has nothing to do with Apple even if Apple's code also has BSD roots. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 6 00:12:48 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Oct 6 00:03:32 2015. Stallman runs the GNUlag. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 00:27:19 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 6 00:12:48 2015. I first met the little shit at a Boston "computer faire" where Jobs and Wozniak presented, Bill Gates stood and whined about people stealing HIS code, and Mr. Freak stood for almost an hour at the podium ranting about his "manifesto" and promising free pie in the sky for all. :)He promised that the GNU operating system would be the best thing since hammered horseshit, but he never delivered. A student in Finland took up the mantel and turned Minix into something useful since at the time, you had to pay for a Unix or BSD license. Stallman immediately clung onto Linus' works trying to conflate his shitty GNU compiler with Linus' actual working operating system and for years tried to get the computer nerds to call Linu "GNU Linux". Linus didn't care and sadly encouraged the little shit to keep humping his leg. I have NO respect for Stallman, he's always been a poseur and a rather aggravating one at that. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 6 13:06:09 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 23:58:42 2015. Bottom line though, you can't turn over what you don't have to begin with. Pretty clever, no? (grin)It would be, if that's what Apple was doing. They aren't— not only can they access the stuff you've stored, they also "store" your passwords so they can tell the NSA how to break local encryption on your hard drive. Of course, you're free to provide Mac OSX source code to confirm otherwise. :D |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 6 13:10:07 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Oct 6 00:03:32 2015. No.Turning my life upside down in a futile effort to hide from illegal surveillance is far more cumbersome and far less effective than demanding the laws against said surveillance be enforced. Of course, that doesn't mean I'm willing to do flagrantly intrusive things like use a version of Mac OS later than 10.6, use a version of Windows later than 7, use an Iphone, use Facebook under my real name, use Skype, or upload any of my data to a "cloud" service. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 13:40:05 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 6 13:06:09 2015. There ya go!http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/os-x-1010/ I can't convince you if you don't want to believe, but we never did have passwords stored on our end. Try calling applecare and see if you can get them to tell you what your password is. You might also want to check into how "hash tokens" work as far as authentication. That's how we do it and there's no password to retrieve. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 6 13:46:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 13:40:05 2015. So you're saying that if I have an iCloud account, that data is encrypted and can only be accessed by a brute force attack? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 13:54:15 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 6 13:46:11 2015. It can only be gotten by connecting an iphone or itunes to it and then attacking the computer itself. If you remember hearing about "The Fappening" last year, the way it was done is that someone pretending to be an icloud user was able to keep trying passwords on a Windows machine until they managed to guess correctly. They then downloaded a backup into itunes and then went at the contents with an emulated iphone to extract those photos. We fixed that issue by ensuring that if you guess your password wrong five times, then you get locked out.But all the hijinx was done on a local computer, they never got at icloud itself. Everything is encrypted from YOUR end with a hash generated by your ID, password and your passcode lock code. It gets sent up encrypted, comes down just the way you sent it and there's no way for Apple or anyone else to be able to decode it. Hope that helps. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 6 15:02:45 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 6 13:46:11 2015. Data that is properly encrypted (i.e., with a method that leaves no back door, and which uses a reasonably long and non-guessable key) is not vulnerable to a brute force attack.2^128 is a big number. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 6 15:36:59 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 6 15:02:45 2015. Luck. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Oct 6 16:42:17 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 00:27:19 2015. Well, to be fair, Linus Torvalds just wrote a kernel, then slapped on the GNU tools and compiler to make his OS. Stallman has some justification in saying that GNU should be mentioned in the same breath as Linux.And no, Linux did NOT come from Minix. Andy Tannenbaum and Linus Torvalds both agree on that. :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 17:49:06 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 6 15:02:45 2015. Something to note though, that's DES which has long since become worthless for the very reason that EFF demonstrated. Nowadays, it's triple encryption using 256 bit AES:http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/09/apple-expands-data-encryption-under-ios-8-making-handover-to-cops-moot/ And there's more than one layer of it, that's why it's a triple roll. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 17:56:14 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by 3-9 on Tue Oct 6 16:42:17 2015. Should have been a little more clear about Minix. It was one of the systems Linux first tried when he was in school, and he was highly underwhelmed by it. That's what set him off trying to hack together his own Unix version. And it was also when he formulated a phrase to describe it that lives to this very day, "blows goats." :)Minix inspired him to do something else is what I meant. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 6 21:11:10 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 13:40:05 2015. Nice try. Everyone knows Mac OS is based on BSD and that they release the source code to the already open source stuff they didn't actually write.I want the whole thing. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 6 21:12:57 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 13:54:15 2015. Actually, I'm pretty sure the celebrity nude leaks were the product of social engineering, not a brute force attack.Either way, Apple retains access to data stored in Icloud, which means they do hand it over to the NSA and can access it for other purposes. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:03:38 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 6 21:11:10 2015. Yep ... but the final cord was cut back around BSD 6. It's been their own stuff since then and if you actually check out the code, everything is there except for some pieces of the mach kernel itself. THAT code (XNU) can be found here:http://opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/ Ever since Tim replaced Steve (who wanted to keep the source to himself) Apple has come to realize that they're really a hardware company and a fashion statement and control of the source isn't as important as letting developers actually see the internals and write better code. That openness has really been magnified as we now are merging iOS and OSX code into a nicely compatible single world under XCODE and SWIFT using CLANG as the compiler. We've even handed all of that back to BSD as well. Linux has google. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:07:05 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 6 21:12:57 2015. I obviously can't convince you otherwise, all I can tell you is that that particular domain is my job and I know exactly what we can and cannot do and who can and cannot do with or to it. When stuff goes up to or comes down from icloud, it is one contiguous blob of garbage that can only be encrypted and decrypted on the customer's device. We just store a bunch of garbage. We can't even tell what's IN it much less what it is.But no worries, there's always ONE DRIVE which is where most of the Fappening's images actually came from. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 7 00:32:43 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 02:13:49 2015. Apple doesn't support it though because it's security hell. That's why we don't do that.bullshit |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:37:22 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 7 00:32:43 2015. So tell us the truth then ... have fun.https://srlabs.de/badusb/ stick to sorting mail, k? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 7 00:45:59 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:37:22 2015. The truth is that if Android has microsd slots, iOS could too. Your reason is bullshit. Apple is bullshit. Doesn't stop me from having an iPhone though. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:47:45 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 7 00:45:59 2015. Read the article then. A patch was attempted, it doesn't work and microcontrollers are getting owned at a remarkable clip. We chose wisely. Our world may be closed, but it's nice and safe. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 7 05:08:36 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 6 17:56:14 2015. Ah, OK. Yeah, supposedly he was in Andy Tannenbaum's class there, but didn't follow his teachings, much to AT's disdain. :-) |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 7 07:55:40 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:47:45 2015. Patch my arse. I demand cheap removable storage. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 12:56:11 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:07:05 2015. Come on, Apple even admits on their website that they can view your icloud data (except passwords).All your iCloud content like your photos, contacts, and reminders is encrypted when sent and, in most cases, when stored on our servers. All traffic between any email app you use and our iCloud mail servers is encrypted. And our iCloud servers support encryption in transit with other email providers that support it. Cite. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 7 12:56:21 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 00:03:38 2015. Mac OS, open source? That'll be the day.Looks like you've been drinking the apple juice. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 13:11:01 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 7 05:08:36 2015. You might find this ... interesting. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 7 13:23:40 2015, in response to Re: I switched from Android to iOS and I don't regret it, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 7 07:55:40 2015. iCloud:50GB - 99 cents a month 200GB - $2.99 a month 1 TB - $9.99 a month Doesn't get cheaper than that. :) |
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