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Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:01:04 2015

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Here

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:04:08 2015, in response to Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:01:04 2015.

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At least he appears to be giving it honest consideration. Thats more than the "rubber stamp" democraps are doing.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:05:31 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:04:08 2015.

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It should be a no brainer for any self respecting Jew to be against it.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 10:13:50 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:05:31 2015.

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If you're against it, but you don't propose a credible alternative, what good have you done?



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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:16:32 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 10:13:50 2015.

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This proves that you would love to see Israel obliterated off the face of the earth.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 10:17:48 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:16:32 2015.

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???

No. Explain the alternative. You don't have an alternative that is supported by most Americans, or even most Jews.


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:21:57 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 10:17:48 2015.

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Are you Jewish?

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:24:36 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 10:17:48 2015.

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Correction, Neville Chamberlain.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 10:27:12 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:21:57 2015.

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So you don't have an alternative that is accepted by a majority of Jews. That's what I thought.


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:30:42 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 10:27:12 2015.

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For the umpteenth time. The Israeli Airforce should take out iran's nuclear capabilities.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:36:08 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:05:31 2015.

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The thing is that Schumer was elected th represent all of NY State and not just the Jews. I think that he's actually a pretty good Senator.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:46:33 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:36:08 2015.

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pretty good Senator



You're kidding? I thought you were a conservative.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:49:47 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:46:33 2015.

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I am a conservative. Chuck Schumer is a democrat. I still think he handles the office with integrity.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:51:31 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:49:47 2015.

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If had any integrity he would not be a democrat.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:54:17 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:51:31 2015.

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Don't judge all domocrats by those who post here.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 11:29:37 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:30:42 2015.

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That option doesn't have the support of most Jews. And furthermore, what's stopping them? Hmm. What's stopping them is that they can't do it. They don't have enough bombs to destroy the entire mountain that the facilities are under, and they know it.



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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Aug 4 12:08:53 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:30:42 2015.

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At one time, that may have been an option but as of now, I don't think that the Israeli Air Force has that capability.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 12:23:38 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:30:42 2015.

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The Israeli Airforce should take out iran's nuclear capabilities.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

So what are they waiting for?


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 12:24:58 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:49:47 2015.

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I still think he handles the office with integrity.

It figure that you think that a piece of shit like Schumer has integrity.


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Aug 4 12:27:02 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 12:24:58 2015.

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Hate him because he's a Jew?

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 12:32:15 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 4 10:54:17 2015.

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I used to consider myself a democrat, I did not leave the democtat party. It left me.

Any democrat who held political office when obama was elected president, and remained a democrat has no integrity.


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 12:33:25 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 12:23:38 2015.

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Fuck you Jew hater.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 12:34:23 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Aug 4 12:27:02 2015.

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I dislike him because he's a self hating Jew.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 12:59:19 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 12:33:25 2015.

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No, it's a totally legitimate question. The answer is they can't do it.



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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 13:22:21 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 12:59:19 2015.

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Fuck you Jew hater.


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by busdude2 on Tue Aug 4 13:37:17 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 12:32:15 2015.

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Wow I agree with you 10000000%. I changed to republican after they shoved OBUMMAcare down our throats.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 4 13:39:34 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 12:32:15 2015.

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To be fair although I consider myself an Independent because New York has a closed primary whereby you can only vote in the primary election of the party you are registered for I am still registered as a Democrat

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Aug 4 13:47:12 2015, in response to Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:01:04 2015.

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He's going to side with Obama. When it comes right down to it, politicians care about their own asses more than anything else.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 13:49:27 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 12:23:38 2015.

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Permission from the U.S. Had it been forthcoming, Israal would have done the job several years ago.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 13:49:52 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 13:49:27 2015.

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Israel, not Israal.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 13:50:47 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Aug 4 13:47:12 2015.

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Truth!

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 13:51:47 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 13:49:27 2015.

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Really? Do you know how many tons of bombs it takes to pulverize a fairly large mountain?


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 14:07:35 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 13:49:27 2015.

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The leaders of Israel's own armed forces said they can't get the job done.

Israel has never asked the US for permission to preemptively defend itself. Nor should it.

If they could pull it off, they would have already done so.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 14:08:39 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by busdude2 on Tue Aug 4 13:37:17 2015.

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You mean, you changed to Republican when you realized that there is a fucking nigger in the White House.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 4 14:43:17 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Aug 4 13:47:12 2015.

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The leader of the Democrat party is going to look at the bottom line of kickbacks more than anything else?
Say it ain't so!

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 4 14:44:11 2015, in response to Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:01:04 2015.

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“This is such an important decision that I will not let pressure, politics or party influence [me],” Schumer said, holding fast to his weeks-long insistence that he’s still in the decision-making stage.


In other words, when it comes to genocide and yet another holocaust brought forth from this WH term, he doesn't want to hear about it, and doesn't want to "better be safe than sorry".

No wonder the party is crumbling.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 15:04:55 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 14:08:39 2015.

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Yes, a f****** n***** that's hates this country.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Aug 4 15:50:12 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 14:08:39 2015.

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Only half...his mother was lily white.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Aug 4 15:52:35 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 4 14:43:17 2015.

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What surprises me is that anyone would think otherwise.

Chucky is a Democrat politician first, a Jew second. What I find interesting is the notion that he was going to break with Obama over this. He never was.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:14:10 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 13:51:47 2015.

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The U.S. sold Israel bunker buster bombs in 2009. They're not used to dig fence post holes, ya know.


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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 4 16:16:58 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:14:10 2015.

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They also aren't used to "slaughter Palestinian children", which is actually what Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade does.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 16:18:47 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:14:10 2015.

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Bunker buster bombs need to be delivered to their targets.

By their own admission, Israeli Air Force aircraft do not have the range or the stealthiness to get the job done.

They can carry bombs or they can carry fuel tanks.





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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:22:58 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 14:07:35 2015.

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Israel would have done so already if they felt it was necessary. Remember, Israel struck nuclear sites in Syria (2007) and Iraq (1981). But now that's there been a P5+1 and Iran agreement reached, Israel can no longer do it without committing national suicide unless it could provide indisputable proof that Iran had a nuclear bomb.

Remember also, my OP said Israel could have done it years ago. Now, I'm not so sure. Were they to bomb Iran now, Ali Khamenei could use the attack to justify rescinding his fatwa against possessing a nuclear-weapons program.



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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:30:45 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 16:18:47 2015.

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Your second and third sentences are incorrect. The IAF has 125 advanced F-15I and F-16I warplanes, equipped with Israeli avionics and additional fuel tanks - tailor-made for long-range strike missions. It has also developed large, long-endurance, unmanned aircraft, and much of its training has focused on long-range missions.

The IAF has the capability and skill for aerial refueling. Israel has at least seven KC-707 tankers and at least four KC-130H tankers.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 16:35:47 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:22:58 2015.

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Israel would have done so already if they felt it was necessary

Done it with WHAT?

So now you're also saying that it's not even necessary and never was?

Great job pwning yourself.

Remember, Israel struck nuclear sites in Syria (2007) and Iraq (1981).

Yeah. Same range. Same distance. Same defenses.
We also once beat the Redcoats with muskets and bayonets.

Remember also, my OP said Israel could have done it years ago. Now, I'm not so sure. Were they to bomb Iran now, Ali Khamenei could use the attack to justify rescinding his fatwa against possessing a nuclear-weapons program.

Nothing in that sentence makes any sense.
Re-read what you just wrote.

His fatwa is binding? You mean....you mean....we can trust his fatwas?

Now you tell me.




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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 16:45:16 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:22:58 2015.

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Iraq's and Syria's nuclear facilities weren't under a very large mountain. They also had no ability to stage massive retaliation, so they chose to pretend it never happened. There is no reason to think Iran would do that.




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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:50:18 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SMAZ on Tue Aug 4 16:35:47 2015.

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Are you really this stupid or are you being deliberately obtuse?

Israel would have attacked Iran if they felt it was necessary and worth the risk of U.S. alienation.

Bombing of Iraqi and Syrian sites shows Israel has the will and ability to do so if it so desires. The IAF has the tools and the training to strike Iran if Israel feels it's necessary and is willing to risk the condemnation of the United States.

The last sentence of mine that you quoted is very clear; I don't understand why you can't follow it.



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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 4 16:53:11 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 4 16:45:16 2015.

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And? Assuming the capability exists, deciding to wage war requires a balancing of costs and benefits. Israel has the capability but for reasons we don't know, has decided the costs outweigh the benefits.

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 4 17:02:00 2015, in response to Schmuck Schumer, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 4 10:01:04 2015.

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One source said the normally thick-skinned senator — who is also feeling the heat from Democrats to back the deal — "exploded" during a meeting last week with about 60 Jewish leaders.

Seriously? "One source" who wouldn't even provide attribution? Go, Rupert! Go go go!

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Re: Schmuck Schumer

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Aug 4 17:05:28 2015, in response to Re: Schmuck Schumer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 4 17:02:00 2015.

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Of course you like Schmuck Schumer.

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