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Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 10 11:10:17 2015

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Jorge Mario Bergoglio

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 17:15:47 2015, in response to Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 10 11:10:17 2015.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 22:00:05 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 17:15:47 2015.

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Of course you like this marxist pope.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:01:39 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 22:00:05 2015.

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Hey!

He's *my* spiritual leader, and you bet your bippy.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:03:12 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:01:39 2015.

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Marxist.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:10:14 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:03:12 2015.

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If you insist. But to quote the nuns, you're going straight to hell, mister. :)

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:16:59 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:10:14 2015.

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Has there been a pope you didn't like?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:20:54 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:16:59 2015.

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I thought Benedict XVI was insane, but if you're a catholic, you still gotta bow.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:25:31 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:20:54 2015.

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Interesting. Why would you say that?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:26:31 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:25:31 2015.

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Way too strict about dumb things. A conservative's conservative. Only problem is that Jesus wasn't a conservative. The current Pope has it right.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:51:32 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:26:31 2015.

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So you admit you're a marxist.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:56:39 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 10 23:51:32 2015.

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Nope. I'm a Catholic. Not my fault that some other religions appear to have gone full Mussolini and have chosen to deliberately misquote the Pope for their own agenda. Jesus was never a republican. :)

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 09:08:20 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:56:39 2015.

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Mussolini? A fascist. I'll cut right to the chase. There is no difference between fascism and communism.


Jesus was never a republican And neither were you.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 10:07:05 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:20:54 2015.

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Why?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 10:09:09 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 09:08:20 2015.

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Fascism and communism are not the same.

Why don't you read something informative instead of getting your facts from the JTF.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 10:11:33 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 09:08:20 2015.

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And as someone who's Jewish and whose grandfathers both fought for a communist state against a fascist state that murdered all of their remaining family members, I find your post offensive and antisemitic.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 10:34:21 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 10:11:33 2015.

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Fascism and communism are both anti Semetic.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 10:34:53 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 10:09:09 2015.

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They are both totalitarian systems.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 11 10:41:50 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 10:34:21 2015.

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Wrong. The original Israeli kibbutuism were a pure communist model.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 11 10:54:53 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 10:34:21 2015.

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Fascism and communism are both anti Semetic.

Famous anti-Semites seen below.




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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 11:44:20 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 11 10:41:50 2015.

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But it's not a totalitarian system.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 11 11:56:02 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 11:44:20 2015.

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Communism is NOT a totalitarian system.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 11 12:06:37 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 10:07:05 2015.

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Obsessions with secrecy, obsession with vestments and jumping back to a time in the distant past, a whole raft of minutia. He had some tendencies similar to Olog which current Pope Francis is undoing. There were the coverups of numerous scandals ranging from the Curia to the treasury to sexual abuse and a whole lot more.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 13:56:49 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 10:34:21 2015.

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FALSE! Neither of them are inherently anti-Semitic.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 14:03:23 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 10:34:53 2015.

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Communism isn't inherently totalitarian. But by your logic, the USA and Nazi Germany were both the same because they were both capitalist.

Also, totalitarianism and socialism are not inherently anti-Semitic. Early Israel was socialistic.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 11 14:15:47 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 13:56:49 2015.

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Not inherently. But in practice, Fascism has always been antisemitic and communism has been since Stalin came to power.


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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 15:02:13 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 14:03:23 2015.

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nazi germany was a capitalist country?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 15:06:26 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 11 11:56:02 2015.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 11 15:14:25 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 15:02:13 2015.

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Indeed it was. Krupp and IG Farben were privately owned companies. Private property ownership was not restricted.





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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 15:53:05 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 11 14:15:47 2015.

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Communism has only been anti-Semitic due to Russian policy. Russia was historically anti-Semitic and the rise of communism did little to change that.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 15:55:19 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 15:02:13 2015.

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Yes. See AlM's response.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 11 16:01:21 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 15:53:05 2015.

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weren't many communist founders Jewish?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 16:14:06 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 11 16:01:21 2015.

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Yes.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 11 21:36:44 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 09:08:20 2015.

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Bump

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 11 21:37:29 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 11 09:08:20 2015.

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Bump

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 11 21:40:51 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 10 23:56:39 2015.

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Nope. I'm a Catholic

LOL!!!!

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 21:52:44 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 11 21:37:29 2015.

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What the fuck are you bumping?

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 11 21:54:51 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 21:52:44 2015.

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lol

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 11 22:11:04 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 11 21:52:44 2015.

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It certainly wasn't to get your attention.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:07:03 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 11 22:11:04 2015.

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Some of us are still working, you know.

Here. Have a bandaid for that bump. The doctor will see you soon, have that insurance card ready. :)

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:07:26 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 11 21:40:51 2015.

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And so are you. :)

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 00:09:17 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:07:26 2015.

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For now.

We'll see where I go for the 2016 election.

You are not a Catholic.

Right now I"m into fatfeminism.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:16:23 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 00:09:17 2015.

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Yeah, you've got me. I converted to Zen Bunnyism after the last Dead concert. :)

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 00:16:53 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:16:23 2015.

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fatfeminism is a wing of the democrat party.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:21:50 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 00:16:53 2015.

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Aw man ... NOW look what you made me do. :)



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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 00:27:59 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:21:50 2015.

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I'm watching Amy Schumer on Comedy.

She is very feminazi.

Wiki says she's half Jewish but does not look Jewish.

Her whole schtick is making fun of porn and men.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:44:47 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 00:27:59 2015.

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I'm watching THIS.



Better show. :)

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 01:04:46 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:44:47 2015.

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#fatfeminism is awesome.

It's more fun than aviation.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 01:04:46 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 00:44:47 2015.

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#fatfeminism is awesome.

It's more fun than aviation.

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Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 12 01:07:52 2015, in response to Re: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 12 01:04:46 2015.

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Whatever floats your airboat. Best of BOTH worlds! :)



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