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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015 48°F right now at time of writing. On June 2 no less. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 2 10:30:53 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. The phrase has been changed to Global Climate Change :) |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 10:33:59 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. And thanks to today's cold weather the polar ice caps have recovered and the world's major mountain glaciers are back to where they were in 1990! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 11:08:27 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 10:33:59 2015. Climate change is a natural, cyclical phenomenon. Not man made. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 11:08:42 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. Thank goodness. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 11:26:34 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 11:08:27 2015. Science would disagree with you.
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 11:28:23 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 11:26:34 2015. Hashem would disagree with you. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 11:31:41 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 11:28:23 2015. WTF? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 11:33:38 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 11:31:41 2015. Ok, G-d would disagree with you. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 11:36:24 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 11:08:27 2015. So you think the average global temperature is totally independent of the amount of CO2 in the air? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 11:38:26 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 11:33:38 2015. My original question still stands. How on earth would you know? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 11:40:59 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 11:08:27 2015. Yes, and no human can predict it. Especially by using computer models based on an atmosphere that doesn't exist anywhere on Earth. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 11:52:54 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 11:28:23 2015. How do you figure? Any scriptures tending to support this claim? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 12:32:48 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 11:26:34 2015. Science, feh. Modern science goes back how far, a few centuries? Earth has been around a lot longer than that. There have been extremes in temperatures for centuries. Something caused the Ice Age and something ended it.I always like hearing about how average temperatures have risen and that this is unprecedented. Accurate temperature records in THIS country have only been kept since about 1880 - I doubt any accurate records exist in large parts of the world. Tell me - how do YOU know there wasn't climate change 1,000 years ago? 2,000? 3,000? And don't quote science to me - science is a constantly evolving practice, with new things being discovered all the time. So lets be clear - I am not saying that the planet is not undergoing climate change. Science proves that it is. I am saying that there is no reliable evidence that it is man-made. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 12:34:19 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 11:38:26 2015. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 12:35:05 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 11:52:54 2015. God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth." Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;…And feel free to burn as much of the plant life as you wish and return it to the air as carbon dioxide.Well, maybe he only implied the last sentence. :) |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 2 12:36:04 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 12:32:48 2015. I posted the proof in this thread already. Where is yours? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 12:38:41 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 12:32:48 2015. 1. Just because there's a natural explanation for something doesn't mean there isn't also an artificial explanation. e.g.: just because a volcano can destroy a city doesn't mean that a nuclear bomb also can't. So just because the climate can change due to natural effects doesn't mean that there also can't be man-made climate change.2. Unlike you, science is capable of measuring past events. In addition to human records from pre-scientific times, there are tree rings, ice cores, fossils and other rocks. 3. There is, in fact, reliable evidence that it is man made. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 12:40:08 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 12:35:05 2015. Is your name chicagomotorman? :-) |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 12:41:55 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 12:32:48 2015. I am not saying that the planet is not undergoing climate change. Science proves that it is. I am saying that there is no reliable evidence that it is man-made.What you are really saying is that there is no reliable evidence that all climate change is man-made. And that latter statement is well-supported by science. Just because mankind has the ability to affect the earth's climate doesn't mean climate can't change for reasons not related to mankind as well. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 12:42:09 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 12:40:08 2015. No, but mine is. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 12:43:05 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 12:42:09 2015. So answer the question. Name the passage of scripture that says that man can't manipulate the environment. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 12:46:19 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 12:43:05 2015. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 2 12:49:17 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 12:34:19 2015. Great bit...thanks for sharing. Carlin was not only funny, he was a genius! |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 2 13:52:32 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 2 12:49:17 2015. +1 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 13:58:53 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 12:38:41 2015. And you've told Mitch45 all this how many times now? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 13:59:45 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. Saying stuff like this just makes you look very uninformed. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 2 14:39:07 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. Will D and clearaspect will say something about this. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jun 2 15:01:29 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 11:08:42 2015. I agree! I hate the heat. But I'm also no big fan of the cold. But from my observations, it seems that people only refer to the extreme cold or the extreme heat. Nobody ever talks about COMFORTABLE temoperatures, when it's 55-60 degrees, when all you might need is a light jacket or sweatshirt, and you don't sweat and you don't freeze. And it's much easier to breathe, and the air is usually crisp and refreshing. But to each his own, I guess... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 16:21:43 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 13:58:53 2015. Not just Mitch45! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 16:28:00 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 2 12:46:19 2015. I’ll watch Rabbi Carlin’s sermon later. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 2 17:08:47 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jun 2 15:01:29 2015. The heat can be OK, what really sucks on this coast is the humididity. Hulllllllooooooooo, Moonachie! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 17:49:09 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 2 13:58:53 2015. I don't buy it.Now go back under your rock and rejoin your other personalities. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jun 2 18:38:36 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 17:49:09 2015. You don't buy basic chemistry and physics. Good to know. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 2 19:15:07 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 2 18:38:36 2015. Not to mention biology.So in other words, he "buys" into science when it suits his needs. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jun 2 19:43:36 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. You need to Google the definitions of the words "climate" and "weather". |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 2 20:09:39 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. It's 48º everywhere on the planet? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 2 20:10:19 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jun 2 19:43:36 2015. First, he needs to figure out that there's a world outside his parents' basement. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 2 20:11:01 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 10:33:59 2015. And the war in Syria isn't happening! And the droughts in California never happened either! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 2 20:12:17 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 11:08:27 2015. Climate change occurs naturally over time. At the moment, nature puts us in the middle of a downwards trend, but human activity has preempted that and replaced it with a massive uptick instead. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 2 20:14:06 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 2 12:41:55 2015. " ...mankind has the ability to affect the earth's climate..."Indeed. Mankind has been trying to effect climate change since the industrial revolution. Go back 75-150 years & check out how we were poisoning the atmosphere. There were thousands of steam locomotives worldwide, belching out all that coal smoke. Industrial factories had huge smokestacks putting out huge plumes of pollution, espicially around steel mills. Every municipality burned their garbage. Steamships roamed the seas with huge black exhaust trails. Yet with all that, the polar ice caps were intact w/o noticable shrinkage. Winters were cold & snowy. Summers were hot & steamy...etc The point to all this is that with all this mankind contributions to poisoning the atmosphere, global warming didn't exist in the then here & now sense. Now the ice caps are shrinking. Global warming is happening, but how much we have to do with it to me is still debatable.Were cleaning up our act (somewhat). All I described before dosen't happen anymore. In addition no more Freon. What a big plus! Heres the bottom line, mankind or not, The natural order of things cannot be discounted. Like "professor" George Carlin said...the earth has been around 4+billion years & has a way of taking care of itself |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 2 20:18:52 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 12:32:48 2015. Tell me - how do YOU know there wasn't climate change 1,000 years ago? 2,000? 3,000? And don't quote science to me - science is a constantly evolving practice, with new things being discovered all the time.OK, that's hilarious— "How do YOU know there wasn't climate change thousands of years ago? But don't mention any facts because those could, theoretically, be wrong!" Of course, everybody knows climate change isn't real because there is no "climate" in the first place— the entire world is an artificial environment maintained at a set temperature. How can you say it isn't? But don't quote any observations to me or ask me to look out the window to make observations of my own; that's a form of science and science is a constantly evolving practice with new things being discovered all the time. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 2 20:43:21 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 2 20:14:06 2015. Mr Wizard's Science Lesson: Coal and its oxides and particulates cause global COOLING. Remember the 70's? Particulates and oxides caused that. 
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jun 2 20:52:31 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 2 20:10:19 2015. Yeah, that's why it feels like 48 degrees to him. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jun 2 20:54:51 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 2 20:14:06 2015. The climate changes tend to lag our effects on the environment by decades. We are now reaping the effects of 150 years of carbon dumping into the environment. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Tue Jun 2 22:26:56 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 2 19:15:07 2015. Exactly. Can you believe that he's a lawyer? How in the hell can he represent someone when he can't even represent basic aspects of reality? |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Tue Jun 2 22:27:08 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 2 18:38:36 2015. Yep. What a doofus. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Tue Jun 2 22:27:42 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 2 16:21:43 2015. Yes, but Mitch45 is one of the worst offenders. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Tue Jun 2 22:28:18 2015, in response to Re: Global warming lol, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 2 17:49:09 2015. I don't buy it.Don't buy what? Now go back under your rock and rejoin your other personalities.You realize that you're an idiot, right? |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jun 2 22:54:40 2015, in response to Global warming lol, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 2 10:26:22 2015. In a few weeks when it's 98 and humid you're going to use that weather to claim anthropogenic global warming is a real thing, right? I mean so long as you're going to ignorantly conflate climate and weather you may as well be consistent in conflating weather and climate. |
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