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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 1 15:06:18 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 1 14:58:28 2015.

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The DA in the Garner case wasn't trying to find a reason to indict the cops. He put on a grand jury to make it look good politically, then intentionally threw the case, IMO.

In the Gray case, Mosby spelled out each element of the charges she brought against the accused, and unlike other cases of young Black men dying in police custody, she is likely to actually prosecute this case with the vigor it deserves.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 15:09:56 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 1 14:49:55 2015.

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Black people are no friends to the Jews.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 1 15:13:28 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 15:09:56 2015.

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What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 1 15:14:03 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 14:52:53 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, but in this case the demographics of the elected officials and their constituents seem to match quite well.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by AlM on Fri May 1 15:17:32 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 15:09:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Categorical statement, eh?

Wouldn't you get annoyed if someone made a categorical statement about Jews?



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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by FtGreeneG on Fri May 1 16:15:13 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 11:40:32 2015.

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Iawtp

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 16:17:47 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 15:09:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What blather is that?

Like any other "race", it depends on individuals' ideology. You saying that someone like David Clarke is an enemy to Jews?

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri May 1 16:19:58 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 1 11:32:24 2015.

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Good and if they are found guilty then let the punishment fit the crime.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri May 1 16:21:08 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 13:55:22 2015.

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So you feel that there is no conflict of interest?

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 1 16:36:26 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 11:40:32 2015.

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Now she has COURAGE. Too bad Cops are COWARDS.


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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 1 16:37:30 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 1 16:36:26 2015.

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IAWTP

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 17:10:10 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by R2Chinatown on Fri May 1 16:21:08 2015.

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Nope.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 17:15:23 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 1 14:58:28 2015.

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If the cops did not respond appropriately to the deceased's cries for help, they ARE guilty of something. What exactly depends on local procedures and law. Get real, there are a lot of bad cops out there.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by AlM on Fri May 1 17:16:11 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by R2Chinatown on Fri May 1 16:21:08 2015.

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A conflict of interest is where different forces conflict to prevent someone from doing their job. For example, if a prosecutor is friends with the defendant's family.

But here there is no conflict. All forces would induce her to prosecute vigorously, which is her job.

She has to obey the law and judicial rules in the course of her prosecution, but so does every prosecutor. There's nothing special here.



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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by AlM on Fri May 1 17:17:36 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 17:15:23 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Get real, there are a lot of bad cops out there.

Same percentage roughly as bad priests, bad teachers, bad doctors, etc. It doesn't take many to do a lot of damage.


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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 1 17:18:46 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 17:15:23 2015.

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Most cops are bad.


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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 17:19:30 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by AlM on Fri May 1 17:17:36 2015.

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Right. Unlike the others, the cops have governmental authority and weapons.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 1 17:21:17 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 11:46:02 2015.

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Good decision. :)

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri May 1 17:30:22 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 1 17:18:46 2015.

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Most cops are excellent. You wouldn't survive a day, let alone a week, dealing with what cops have to deal with

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 1 17:31:44 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 17:15:23 2015.

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IAWTP

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Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police

Posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 17:52:44 2015, in response to Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 1 11:18:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Both of her parents, her grandfather, two aunts, and three uncles have been police officers.

http://www.baltimoremagazine.net/2013/10/40-under-40?p=people/2013/10/40-under-40

Marilyn Mosby, 33
prosecutor
Now that she’s a candidate for Baltimore state’s attorney, you’ll hear a lot about Marilyn Mosby—about how both of her parents, grandfather, two aunts, and three uncles were Boston police officers; about her years as an assistant state’s attorney; and about her commitment to safe neighborhoods. Mosby married her Tuskegee University sweetheart, City Councilman Nick Mosby, and together they rehabbed a Reservoir Hill shell where they live with their two girls. Policy-wise, she emphasizes repeat offenders and working with victim’s families and witnesses. “When I was 14, my cousin was killed on his doorstep over a pair of sneakers,” she says. “It’s only because a witness came forward that the guy is off the streets.”

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police

Posted by AlM on Fri May 1 18:05:11 2015, in response to Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 17:52:44 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ha! So that means she's got a conflict of interest.



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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:15:58 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 1 15:13:28 2015.

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I think of my people 27 7.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:18:15 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 16:17:47 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Let me claify. Most, not all, not all.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:19:17 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 1 16:37:30 2015.

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Of course you do.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:20:02 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 17:10:10 2015.

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Yup

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:25:44 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by bingbong on Fri May 1 17:10:10 2015.

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Yup

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:25:47 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 16:17:47 2015.

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Let me claify. Most, not all, not all.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by WayneJay on Fri May 1 18:35:15 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 11:45:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You do know that he had a big rap sheet.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Gray was placed under arrest when he shouldn't have been, and of course his death in police custody. What's your point?

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by WayneJay on Fri May 1 18:37:51 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 15:09:56 2015.

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You are seriously not well.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:54:23 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by WayneJay on Fri May 1 18:37:51 2015.

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I never said I was.

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:57:32 2015, in response to Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 17:52:44 2015.

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Her husband had no problem with what the rioters did.

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police

Posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 18:59:23 2015, in response to Re: Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 18:57:32 2015.

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Is she her husband?

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 18:59:41 2015, in response to Balto. State's Attorney has deep family ties to police, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 17:52:44 2015.

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She was raised by her grandmother, not her parents. How "deep" are those "ties" personally, eh?

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?

Posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 19:00:19 2015, in response to Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 18:59:41 2015.

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Prattle on.

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 1 19:02:02 2015, in response to Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 19:00:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Marlyn Mosby CARES about police standards.


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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 19:03:38 2015, in response to Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 19:00:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Aw, no answer out of you. C'mon, where's the witty comeback?

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 19:04:41 2015, in response to Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?, posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 1 19:02:02 2015.

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If she does, then why is she pandering to mob rule, eh?

Her list of charges bespeaks utter impropriety and high prejudice on her part.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by Joe V on Fri May 1 19:18:01 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 12:02:28 2015.

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Coming from someone in Chicago, the most segregated city in America.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 1 19:38:12 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by WayneJay on Fri May 1 18:35:15 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The idea that "he had it coming" that gets broadcast by the right. There's been his photo with a list of his arrests circulated.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 1 19:41:32 2015, in response to Re: Balto. State's Attorney has *deep* family ties to police?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 1 18:59:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She was raised by her grandmother, not her parents. How "deep" are those "ties" personally, eh?

Well, her grandmother was married to a police officer and had children who were police officers...


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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 1 19:43:29 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 12:03:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You don't believe it was an accident? Especially in this day and age?

Whether it was or not, his arrest was illegal and he shouldn't have been in the canon the first place.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 1 20:39:50 2015, in response to Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 1 11:18:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well, looks like the protests (oh, sorry, I mean "riots") worked then, at least as well as they ever will.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 1 20:44:30 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by Nilet on Fri May 1 20:39:50 2015.

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I know this much, the Left should stop supporting gun control and embrace the Second Amendment.


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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by AlM on Fri May 1 21:15:02 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 1 12:03:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You don't believe it was an accident?

It almost certainly was an accident. Cops don't usually go around deliberately killing suspects. But they didn't buckle his seat belt. That's certainly careless conduct, asking for trouble. A jury will get to decide if it's criminally reckless conduct.




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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 1 21:21:42 2015, in response to Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 1 11:18:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And I'm sure you're ecstatic about it. However I doubt you're going to be ecstatic when they're acquitted.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 1 21:30:11 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 1 14:43:16 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Remember the old adage... You can indict a ham sandwich.


Dan Pantaleo must have been a BLT.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 1 21:30:37 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by italianstallion on Fri May 1 14:53:56 2015.

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TRUTH!!

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 1 21:43:55 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 1 21:30:11 2015.

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Donovan didn't want to indict him. The GJ was convened for political cover.

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Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 1 22:03:22 2015, in response to Re: Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide, Cops To Be Charged: Balto. State's Attorney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 1 21:21:42 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I actually don't have a lot of confidence that there will be any convictions in this case. The combination of cops as defendants, and an unsympathetic victim, make acquittals likely, no matter how strong a case the prosecution puts on.

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