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Re: The 9/11 whoring coward PIGS' union, DREGS of the labor movement.

Posted by Nilet on Sat May 2 22:40:12 2015, in response to Re: The 9/11 whoring coward PIGS' union, DREGS of the labor movement., posted by Elkeeper on Sat May 2 21:30:42 2015.

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Martin Luther King was a 1960s radical and he had a car, house, and wife. Several kids too.

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Re: The PIG union, DREGS of the labor movement.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 2 22:44:38 2015, in response to Re: The PIG union, DREGS of the labor movement., posted by RockParkMan on Sat May 2 17:48:12 2015.

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Did I SAY I was? You don't seem very tolerant of other people who are just pointing things out that you might not agree with.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun May 3 06:14:05 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 2 19:40:38 2015.

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You have more to fear from Law Enforcement than anyone else here

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 07:03:48 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by The silence on Sat May 2 15:25:07 2015.

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#BLUELIVESMATTER...

Racist.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 07:12:19 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by RockParkMan on Sun May 3 06:14:05 2015.

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Not him— he's white, probably elderly, and whiny.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 10:29:42 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 07:12:19 2015.

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It has been established that he's not elderly.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 3 10:46:25 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 07:03:48 2015.

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not

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by tunnelrat on Sun May 3 10:59:47 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 07:03:48 2015.

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do tell me how it is racist.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 16:39:35 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 10:29:42 2015.

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Really? Has anyone ever met him?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 16:39:41 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 3 10:46:25 2015.

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Yes.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 16:45:12 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 16:39:41 2015.

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WUT

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:00:34 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by tunnelrat on Sun May 3 10:59:47 2015.

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Do you genuinely want to know?

It's a corruption of "black lives matter." The phrase "black lives matter" was started to call attention to the fact that society treats black people's lives as worthless— white cops and vigilantes can kill black people with impunity, and despite improvements on paper, black people are still subject to considerable discrimination (even segregation in all but name). Being black makes you far more likely to get arrested and killed (in fact, the cops are more likely to arrest and kill an innocent black man than a white criminal), it makes you far less likely to get a decent job (employers are typically more likely to hire a white felon than a black man with no criminal record) and it means being treated as, at best, someone who simply doesn't count and, at worst, a usurper or parasite with no right to exist.

That's why changing "black lives matter" to "all lives matter" is racist— it erases the concern for those very real social problems. America does not have trouble understanding the idea that "all" lives matter— it denies that black lives matter.

Changing it to "blue lives matter" (referring to cops) is doubly racist because the police enjoy considerable unearned respect and social standing— absolutely no one* is claiming their lives don't matter.

Whenever a cop is shot (even if they survive), governments and most of the population inevitably declare that this was a terrible crime and the shooter needs to pay.

Whenever a black man is killed by a cop, governments and a large swath of the population inevitably declare that it must have been justified, it must have been self-defense, it couldn't have been a crime.

Black people who are tired of seeing their friends and family killed for no reason coined the term "black lives matter" to protest the situation— changing it to "blue lives matter" mocks their concern for their own lives.

If someone told Martin Luther King to his face that he should be far more concerned with the rights of white people, rattled off a few individual murders with white victims not connected to a greater social problem regarding race, and asked him how he could possibly be so concerned with black people's rights, you'd have no trouble understanding that person is being racist.

This is basically the same thing.

*Note for the literal-minded: This post is discussion a societal problem. As such, when I say "no one," I mean "no socially significant force." As such, you cannot disprove this claim by citing one crazy person ranting on the internet as an example.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:04:01 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 16:45:12 2015.

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WUT AIN'T NO COUNTRY I EVER HEARD OF!

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:12:49 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:00:34 2015.

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WHITE LIVES MATTER!!!!!!!!

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:14:18 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:12:49 2015.

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Racist.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:15:42 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:04:01 2015.

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White Uncle Tom.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:17:25 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:15:42 2015.

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What does that mean?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:21:08 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:14:18 2015.

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So saying both All lives matter and Whites lives matter are both racist?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:21:49 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:17:25 2015.

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You know what an uncle tom is don't you?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 3 17:47:26 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:15:42 2015.

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zzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun May 3 17:48:37 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:21:08 2015.

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Racist to nilet means refusing to treat non-whites as a superior class rather than as equals

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 17:51:20 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:00:34 2015.

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Excellent post!

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 17:51:45 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by mtk52983 on Sun May 3 17:48:37 2015.

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You didn't bother reading his post.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 17:52:47 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 16:39:35 2015.

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There was some post where he said that he was younger than someone else. So basically he claimed he wasn't elderly. It hasn't been independently verified.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 3 17:56:25 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:21:49 2015.

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zzzzzzzzz

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by AlM on Sun May 3 18:00:31 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 17:51:45 2015.

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Yes, it was one of his saner ones by a long shot.


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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 18:19:36 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by mtk52983 on Sun May 3 17:48:37 2015.

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Racist to nilet means refusing to treat non-whites as a superior class rather than as equals

Citation needed.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 18:21:19 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:21:08 2015.

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Yes.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 3 18:24:37 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:00:34 2015.

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IAWTP

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 18:25:36 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:21:49 2015.

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A corruption of the character in Uncle Tom's Cabin, the term is used to describe a black person who is overly accepting of the inferior status assigned to black people in this society.

As such, "white uncle tom" is a contradiction— being white, I am not assigned an inferior status.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 18:27:14 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 18:25:36 2015.

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CMM believes that a "white uncle tom" is a white person who denies the apparent truth that black people are inferior to white people.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 18:27:17 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 17:52:47 2015.

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Mm.

If Olog said the sky was blue, I'd double-check.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 18:29:40 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 18:27:14 2015.

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Ah. That'd explain it then. Thanks.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:45:45 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 18:21:19 2015.

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For such an articulate indivisual, you certainly lack common sense.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:46:36 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 3 17:56:25 2015.

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Is your name Nilet?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:47:51 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 18:27:14 2015.

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No, a white uncle tom is a white person who worships blacks.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by tunnelrat on Sun May 3 19:00:34 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Nilet on Sun May 3 17:00:34 2015.

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NO I genuinely don`t want to know.i was just banging away at the keyboard and that question,as if by magic or devine intervention popped up.it seems that black lives DON`T matter in the ghetto where 90% of all crime is black on black.can you explain this away?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 3 19:13:33 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:46:36 2015.

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could be
lol

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 3 19:15:20 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:47:51 2015.

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zzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 19:16:23 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:47:51 2015.

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Which to you means any white person who does not consider black people inferior.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 19:18:53 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:45:45 2015.

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Do you even know what common sense is?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 19:52:41 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 19:18:53 2015.

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Apparently you don't, since I wasn't talking to you. Unless your name is Nilet.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 20:18:54 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 19:52:41 2015.

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You were taking to EVERYONE, idiot. Do you still not know how a message board works?

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 3 20:22:48 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 18:47:51 2015.

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A "nigger lover" as the Klansmen say.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 3 20:29:35 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Fred G on Sun May 3 20:22:48 2015.

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IAWTP

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 3 21:08:27 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 3 17:21:08 2015.

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This is what the racists mean to say.



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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by SMAZ on Sun May 3 21:36:54 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 3 17:52:47 2015.

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Yeah, I think he's slightly younger than me.

(but only because his aging stopped in 1957)

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon May 4 00:04:55 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by tunnelrat on Sun May 3 19:00:34 2015.

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bc poor black ppl live in black neighborhoods. The same reasons why Latinos in poor neighborhood kill other latino's or mobsters kill other mobsters etc...

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Mon May 4 01:33:55 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by tunnelrat on Sun May 3 19:00:34 2015.

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NO I genuinely don`t want to know.i was just banging away at the keyboard and that question,as if by magic or devine intervention popped up.

In my experience, racists do tend to be fans of sea lioning and JAQing off so whether you are genuinely interested in the answer or a racist who plans to ignore it is a fair question.

Your next line seems to suggest it's the latter— screaming about "black on black crime" is something rarely seen outside of racists trying to justify their bigotry. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (after all, I do tend to assume the best of people) and give you another fair answer—

it seems that black lives DON`T matter in the ghetto where 90% of all crime is black on black.can you explain this away?

I can't "explain it away" but I can explain it.

1. Most crime is local. Because segregation was repealed in name only, black people are forced to live in predominantly-black areas. As such, black criminals target their black neighbors just as white criminals target their white neighbors. When a population is 90% black, it's hardly disproportionate for the crime in that population to be 90% black.

2. Black people are easy targets. Thanks to overpowering racism, black people cannot call the police, and everyone knows this. Obviously, a criminal is more likely to target someone who can't report the crime.

3. Black people face greater social pressure to become criminals than white people.
    (a) Thanks to racism, black people tend to be poorer and have fewer opportunities; poverty and desperation increase crime.
    (b) Thanks to racism, black people are likely to get arrested and thrown in prison (or killed by the police) whether they commit any crime or not— knowing that you face arrest and imprisonment or summary execution any day no matter what you do, and obeying the law won't help, what incentive do you have to obey the law?

Does that sufficiently answer your question?

By the way— based on the available statistics, we know that black and white people commit most crimes at roughly equal rates, but black people are more likely to be the victim of a crime and far more likely to go to prison.

With regards to your claim that "it seems black lives don't matter in the ghetto," I'd like to remind you that the phrase "black lives matter" was coined to protest systemic racism in which our society oppresses black people. Individual petty criminals not motivated by race are irrelevant to systemic racism. Your so-called "black on black crime," at least beyond what should be expected from any society, is actually caused by the same white-privileging systemic racism that the phrase "black lives matter" was coined to protest.

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Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment...

Posted by Nilet on Mon May 4 01:36:03 2015, in response to Re: The Police union, not of the labor movenment..., posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 3 21:08:27 2015.

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"Liberal black lives matter" is redundant to someone who thinks literally every person on the planet is a liberal.

Or are you prepared to answer this question now?

10. Name three people you believe are not liberal.

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