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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Apr 28 17:13:41 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:01:03 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh so please exain how it changes the context and certainly explain how it changed the outcome.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:18:31 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Apr 28 17:13:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Apr 28 17:23:45 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:18:31 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You made the claim that the entire statement changes the context from the portion of the statement that I quoted. I'd like you to explain to me exactly what you see that I don't.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:25:39 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Apr 28 17:23:45 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Here

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Apr 28 17:36:52 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:25:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you can't explain it. I guess that's why the mayor is going on tv trying to back pedal her comment. No need fro you to do the same. I understand what you meant.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:45:07 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Apr 28 17:36:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm not jumping through your conservative hoop, Steve. :)
If you want English to be the official language then best brush up on it :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 17:46:38 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 13:48:01 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I was being flippant about the "cause". The media has been busy showing us CVS over and over and over again, suggesting that the entire city had a meltdown. There were only three locations where anything happened, which is why all we get to see on the news is CVS and another street corner where they burned some police cars.

Yes, some people went out of control but the vast majority of the protests WERE peaceful. But of course, that's not news.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 17:48:52 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 14:14:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hopeless conservative there. Rights are only for his kind.

Criminal acts are supposed to be prosecuted, and they are. All those cameras have the evidence and faces of those involved. And yes, that certainly is what he's implying. Give people rights and they will loot. :-\

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 28 17:52:58 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 14:14:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Um, people like you are amazing.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 17:57:46 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 15:37:32 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I wouldn't count on that. Do you know what the word "Viz:" means?

viz.
viz/
adverb
adverb: viz.

namely; in other words (used especially to introduce a gloss or explanation).
"the first music reproducing media, viz., the music box and the player piano"
synonyms: namely, that is to say, in other words, to wit, specifically, i.e.;
formalvidelicet
"article one sets out its purpose, viz. to ensure the continuation of farming"

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:58:28 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 16:02:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
West!


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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 18:03:47 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 15:47:25 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Isn't it swell how FOX News explained what it REALLY means so that nobody has to bother parsing any words there?

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 18:04:29 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 16:02:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No more calls, please ... we have a winner! :)

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 18:05:50 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 16:42:11 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Aw man ... if FOX NEWS gets ahold of that picture, there isn't going to be a single pair of clean underwear in any of their viewer's households. :)

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 18:29:26 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 17:57:46 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
SelkirkTMO is a genuis.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 19:15:46 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 28 14:41:43 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
First amendment gives you the right to riot, loot, steel, burn down CVS?

That sure is not peaceable assembly.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 19:17:12 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 28 14:07:49 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
One definition of "express" is "squeeze the juice out of". The rioters are not doing that to themselves.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:19:51 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 15:20:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh please. Why do liberals always have to defend other liberals with "what the really meant".

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:20:45 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 16:54:28 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She said she allowed those wanting to destroy to destroy.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 19:20:49 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:19:51 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why do conservatives always have such bad reading comprehension?



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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 19:21:39 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 17:46:38 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's 3 too many.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:21:40 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Apr 28 16:56:47 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
As did I. Al feels the obligated need to "tell us what she really meant" however.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:22:40 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 15:24:17 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nothing at all.....here quote didn't change. Please explain the those that felt like destroying part. Its no different there.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:23:23 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 15:29:42 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
??????? The whole statement was bad, including g those she felt they needed to allow to destroy.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:23:56 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Apr 28 16:59:21 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not in the least. Exactly.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 19:25:01 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 18:04:29 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I though you.were a genuis.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:27:31 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:01:03 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
???? It does change at all that she said that she said the allowed those to destroy to destroy. That ridiculous statement by a person of authority has nothing to do with anything else she said.


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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:29:06 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Apr 28 17:23:45 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It doesn't change the context at all.....that statement has nothing to do with anything else she said

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:31:27 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 17:25:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ah, so there is no explanation for that ridiculous stapend besides the need to defend any liberal ...no matter their company levek

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:33:39 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 19:20:49 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Please explain her thise wanting to destroy statement though and how its relevant to first amendment.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:36:33 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 14:55:43 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
???????????

First off, I never watch cable news, much less Fox.
Second, how can a statement she said after the fact be meant as before?
Third, please explain, how her allowed them to destroy comment be taken differently?

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:37:43 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Apr 28 15:19:11 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Liberals are obsessed with Fox....don't know why, haven't seen it in at least 4 years.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:39:21 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 28 17:48:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
?????

Name the part of the Constitution that allows destroying?

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:40:05 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 28 17:52:58 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes.....to see the damage control to protect anyone slightly left is amazing at best

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 28 19:40:23 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:20:45 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, she didn't.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 28 19:41:06 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Apr 28 16:56:47 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And AlM actually understood what he read. You're no better than a parrot.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 19:42:30 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:22:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're the accuser here.

Yes, they gave space to those who wished to destroy. Provide proof of intent. Otherwise you're just engaged in libel.



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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 19:44:17 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:33:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's not a readable sentence.

Rioters don't have first amendment rights. you're just making yourself look silly by suggesting that I claim they do.



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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:49:09 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 19:42:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Lol!!!! I am not an accuser at all. She said what she said
There "is" no excuse for destruction.....the intenat or lack of is irrelevant. They destroyed. She said they gave "space" to those people to do so. There's no excuse for that bwhavior

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:50:49 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 19:44:17 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is correct, they have no right to such and the incompetant mayor afraid of offending her base came up with an excuse for them and said they gave those individuals "space" to do so.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 20:12:44 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:49:09 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She said what she said

Indeed. But you interpret what she said as being in support of rioting. That is extremely sloppy on your part, because you have no evidence.


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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Apr 28 20:13:51 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 02:43:09 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That article is a 100% truth. The folks out there rioting should be seriously prosecuted for destroying property. But the truth is the vast majority of the protestors denouce the violence and is out there for good reasonn. The shame of the whole thing is bf there was the riot they were out there peacefully protesting for days but no one in the 'mainstream media and gave a shit about what they were protestinf about (a man who had his spine 80% severed and voicebox crushed while in custody and these stories are becoming more frequent. But of course when a rock is thrown it is instantly splashed all over every tv screen so they can have an excuse to say "look those nigg%%'s, or animals or(insert coded racial term here) are at it again!"

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 28 20:37:30 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by AlM on Tue Apr 28 20:12:44 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Exactly. Why else would they willfully omit three quarters of the statement that she made? It's just McCarthyism plain and simple.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Apr 28 21:29:56 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:49:09 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Chris, a literal reading of the mayor's exact words, in the context, results in something so absolutely absurd that I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt that, as per the clarification released by her office afterwards, she meant something else. That something else has been explained and alluded to several times in this thread. If you still can't figure it out, let me know and I will spell it out for you.

Note that I'm not saying she definitely meant something else. I'd say I'm only 93% to 98% confident that she meant something else.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Apr 28 22:18:37 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Apr 27 20:49:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Me three!!!

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 22:30:39 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:39:21 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Doesn't exist. First Amendment specifically says "peaceably assemble".

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 22:32:23 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:31:27 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They won't care until it personally affects them. The way this is spreading, that will be unavoidable eventually. The POTUS' only solution is more centralized government.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 22:32:58 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:37:43 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I didn't link Fox News in the OP. It's CBS.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 22:34:50 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:36:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Is this like the clash with Dan Lawrence's daughter? I made sure I didn't read that, out of respect.

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Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy''

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 22:38:21 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 28 19:19:51 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They wish to emulate the "Prętorian Guard" behavior of the media.

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