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Baltimore mayor gave "space" to those who "wished to destroy" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 27 18:44:54 2015 So Stephanie Rawlings-Blake is officially the country's first anarchist mayor.CBS Baltimore No, that's exactly what she said. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 19:00:59 2015, in response to Baltimore mayor gave "space" to those who "wished to destroy", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 27 18:44:54 2015. Well yeah when you allow people to protest, some will get ugly and riot. So do you take away people's right to protest over that? You could run down the list of rights we have and find similar issues with too much freedom, no?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 19:01:57 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 19:00:59 2015. the crowd gathered to get violent. that was the purpose of the protest. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Apr 27 20:02:43 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 19:01:57 2015. IAWTP. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 20:08:48 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 19:00:59 2015. Right, change the subject. Direct quote: “we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well.” |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Apr 27 20:10:13 2015, in response to Baltimore mayor gave "space" to those who "wished to destroy", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 27 18:44:54 2015. DAVID DINKINS DID THE SAME THING IN CROWN HEIGHTS,A COLOUSAL MISTAKE. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 20:11:39 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 20:08:48 2015. How is that changing the subject?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Mon Apr 27 20:27:24 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Apr 27 20:10:13 2015. You're right. I have yet to see protests like this not turn violent. To loot and vandalize not only makes people hate the protesters but makes the people care less about their alleged plight. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 20:46:46 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 20:11:39 2015. As in the subject line, the mayor made an asinine statement. That Was incompatible with the right of the people to peacefully assemble to petition for a redress of grievances.She's also set up the city for lawsuits by people harmed by this stated abdication of civil responsibility. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 20:47:52 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 20:46:46 2015. Yes, because whenever a politician flaps their gums, they always get the words perfectly the first time.Viz: Joe Biden. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 20:48:16 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Apr 27 20:10:13 2015. Then there were all the 911 calls that disappeared. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Apr 27 20:49:41 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Dave on Mon Apr 27 20:02:43 2015. Me too |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:01:29 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 20:46:46 2015. "“I made it very clear that I work with the police and instructed them to do everything that they could to make sure that the protesters were able to exercise their right to free speech,” Rawlings-Blake said. “It’s a very delicate balancing act. Because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well. And we worked very hard to keep that balance and to put ourselves in the best position to de-escalate.”"That was here entire statement. How is that asinine? your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:03:39 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:01:29 2015. I think it might have something to do with not parsing sentences properly. I think they read that last part as "who wished to destroy space ... to do that as well" instead of "who wished to destroy ... space to do that as well." I don't think they see any difference between the two constructs.After all, this IS subchat where nothing seems to get read as written. :) |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:11:33 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:03:39 2015. Who wished to destroy space? Do Flash and Dr, Zarkov know about this? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:12:45 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:11:33 2015. Third misinterpretation! I hadn't considered that one.God Bless Subchat! :) |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:13:08 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:01:29 2015. How does one destroy space? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:14:22 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:11:33 2015. NOT DOCTOR Z!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:15:19 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:13:08 2015. To infinity and beyond!
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:15:24 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:13:08 2015. With Castro Convertible.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:15:35 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:12:45 2015. You deny the existence of Queen Azura's nitron lamps? Go on, spin that. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:17:01 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:14:22 2015. Doctor Who? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:17:27 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:15:35 2015. Do I have to insert a quarter first? |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:20:40 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:17:27 2015. Or 5 for a dollar. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:20:41 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:17:27 2015. Or 5 for a dollar. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:23:26 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:15:24 2015. The Song of Bernardette. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:23:51 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:20:40 2015. Sold! Let me on! :)
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:24:07 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:17:01 2015. Say that to my face, Doctor Z!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:25:40 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:23:26 2015. Good Lourde.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:26:51 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:24:07 2015. Doctor Who's on First. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 21:27:10 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:24:07 2015. 
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:28:29 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:25:40 2015. But we'll never be royals. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Apr 27 21:48:39 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:15:24 2015. Not to be picky here, but I think the Castro convertible quote was "conquer living space" said in a snappy little ad jingle. Sorry, I remember things better 50 years ago than 50 minutes ago!! |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 27 21:52:31 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Apr 27 21:48:39 2015. You are correct; it was.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Apr 27 22:11:55 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 27 21:28:29 2015. Great song! |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Apr 27 22:13:34 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Apr 27 21:48:39 2015. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 22:23:40 2015, in response to Baltimore mayor gave "space" to those who "wished to destroy", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 27 18:44:54 2015. Baltimore is definitely a city that needs abortion stat percentage like NYC. The whole country needs it.Sadly the Christianists like Olog-hai or victims of domestic abuse like Chicagomotorman don't see it. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Apr 27 22:39:24 2015, in response to Baltimore mayor gave "space" to those who "wished to destroy", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 27 18:44:54 2015. Where is the national guard? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 23:00:56 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Apr 27 22:39:24 2015. They've been there since this afternoon. You might want to find a news channel that's actually doing some news. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 23:03:15 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 23:00:56 2015. You might want to find a news channel that's actually doing some news.I can think of one. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 23:22:38 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 23:03:15 2015. If they were doing news, then Chimmy might have known already. I know CBS is down there, had it on earlier. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Apr 27 23:53:21 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 19:01:57 2015. Not everyone was out there looking to do wrong. There were several thousand people downtown protesting peacefully. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Apr 27 23:53:21 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 19:01:57 2015. Not everyone was out there looking to do wrong. There were several thousand people downtown protesting peacefully. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 28 00:00:10 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by WayneJay on Mon Apr 27 23:53:21 2015. Yeah. And when one or two guys bring a stupid sign to a Tea Party, it reps the entire crowd.And signs aren't violent. The videos I've seen of dozens, maybe more, looting and destroying property are all over the net. Once this fades away the crowd goes back to killing each other, like in Brooklyn outside a church tonight. THIW |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Apr 28 01:58:13 2015, in response to Baltimore mayor gave "space" to those who "wished to destroy", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 27 18:44:54 2015. http://m.mic.com/articles/116524/outrage-over-baltimore-riots-completely-misses-the-pointOne Tweet Shows the Hypocrisy of the Media's Reaction to Riots in Baltimore By Tom McKay 2 days On Saturday, over 2,000 protesters marched to Baltimore's City Hall to protest the death of 25-year-old black man Freddie Gray. Gray died on April 19 after suffering a spinal injury while in Baltimore Police Department custody a week earlier. At some point between when Gray was put into a police van and shackled and the time paramedics were called over half an hour later, something nasty happened. According to Gray's family attorney, his spine was 80% severed at the neck. Deputy Police Commissioner Jerry Rodriguez admits that Gray gave up without the use of force. Since then, thousands of people have taken to the streets every day to demonstrate against the fate that befell Freddie Gray and countless other people who have been killed by police in America. But on Saturday night, a small minority of Baltimore's residents decided to irresponsibly engage in property destruction and acts of violence — and the media lost its mind. Here's how the Baltimore Sun covered the events on Sunday: One tweet from American hip-hop artist Talib Kweli shows how the protests could and should have been covered: as a movement against police brutality so heartfelt and widespread that it united even rival gangs. A "war zone": One could practically sense right-wing media hooting with glee at Baltimore's pain. Drudge Report's eponymous Matt Drudge was quick to play up the racial angle: Source: Twitter Source: Drudge Report Breitbart ran headlines referring to "1,000 black rioters" and called the city a "war zone." CNS News wrote on how "the demonstration turned violent and volatile," while the Daily Caller played up a viral video showing a group of young black guys stealing a reporter's purse: A false narrative: The vast majority of people who turned out to protest Freddie Gray's death on Saturday didn't engage in violence, smash windows or hurl beer bottles at people. Out of the more than 2,000 people who marched to City Hall that afternoon, Al-Jazeera America reports that about 100 were responsible for the chaos. CNN noted that there was an "overwhelming peaceful majority" and that members of protests put themselves between the "small group" of angry demonstrators and police lines, leading Police Commissioner Anthony Batts to thank the peacemakers in the crowd. Despite the fact that there have been peaceful protests in Baltimore every day since Gray died on April 19, some folks seem determined to frame the narrative around the actions of a disgruntled minority. As Mic's Zak Cheney-Rice previously pointed out while covering the protests in Ferguson, Missouri over the death of 18-year-old unarmed black man Mike Brown at the hands of police, somehow the media doesn't react with the same kind of breathless denunciations when white college students turn unruly: The narrative coalescing around some of the nastier things that happened in Baltimore on Saturday is easily distorted. City Paper's Brandon Soderberg, for example, explained the backstory of Drudge's "race riot" photo: The Wall Street Journal's Christopher Mims chimed in: Somehow, photos of peaceful protesters intervening — the same peacemakers the police commissioner credited with helping to neutralize the angry minority — aren't getting the same coverage. Lost in all this, too, is how a few scuffles and broken windows pale in comparison to the violence visited upon Freddie Gray by the Baltimore Police Department: The Department of Justice is not only investigating Gray's death, but reviewing the entire police force after years of allegations of brutality. Why you should care: Disproportionate focus on the violent actions of a few hurt, pained and disenfranchised people unfairly ignores the much larger peaceful movement protesting Gray's death. It paints an entire minority community as intrinsically violent and unreasonable when, in fact, they are the ones under siege by a police department that has paid out millions of dollars to the plaintiffs of excessive force lawsuits. Officers in Baltimore have been accused of vicious misconduct on a regular basis. "Please don't allow a few angry protesters shift the focus of what created this movement in the city," local activist Albert Phillips wrote on Facebook. "Rioting and looting is only a reaction to compounded injustice. The larger issue here is police brutality. Stay focused." When the police have so clearly lost the trust of the public, there's a bigger problem than one night of rioting at hand. Baltimore's residents deserve better than for the nation to ignore that problem. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 02:32:13 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 23:00:56 2015. I'll take your word for it. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 28 02:36:38 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 27 23:00:56 2015. I'll take your word for it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 02:41:51 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 27 22:23:40 2015. You're an idiot who still believes liberals who write garbage such as Freakonomics. Read this instead of liberal lies. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 02:42:28 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Apr 27 22:39:24 2015. They came in after the governor declared a state of emergency. There is now a curfew in place, at least for the next week. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 28 02:43:09 2015, in response to Re: Baltimore mayor gave ''space'' to those who ''wished to destroy'', posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Apr 28 01:58:13 2015. Policymic? LOL! Pack of liars. |
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