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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 10:21:32 2015, in response to Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 10:10:43 2015. No, the authorities are saying "There is no evidence that it is terrorism." They know that because they haven't found any such evidence.Also, there is actually evidence it is not terrorism. The plane was at cruise altitude, then it started a steady descent of about 3000 feet per minute (about a 6 degree downslope). You can't make that happen with a bomb. Of course, a hijacker could conceivably have forced a pilot to do that, but it seems unlikely. Besides, how did the hijacker get through the locked door without the pilot sending an alert? Pilot suicide is still possible, if you want to call that terrorism. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Mar 25 10:49:51 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 10:21:32 2015. certain series of this Airbus had computer issues , so it may be very possible the pilots felt they were on level flight or could not correct whatever was problem , it will be interesting what else they find on voice and data recorders. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 10:56:50 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Mar 25 10:49:51 2015. You don't think you are on level flight at 38,000 feet if the air is clear and you see the Alps ahead of you instead of below you.I'm betting on hypoxia. It seems the least unlikely explanation at the moment. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 25 11:00:19 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 10:56:50 2015. There is some talk that windshield may have failed in flight |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Mar 25 11:30:55 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 25 11:00:19 2015. There may be witness to crash, the French Air Force dispatched a jet because of loss of communication , it did get to the Airbus before it hit mountain. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 11:38:03 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 10:21:32 2015. That's not how CNN has been reporting it. They were saying "it is not terrorism."I'm also thinking of EgyptAir Flight 990, where the pilot turned off the autopilot and intoned "Allahu Akbar" on the way down. They ruled out terrorism there too. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 11:48:09 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 11:38:03 2015. That's not how CNN has been reporting it. They were saying "it is not terrorism."So people at a press conference say "There is no evidence it is terrorism" and CNN reports "It is not terrorism." What's your question? Why doesn't CNN understand French? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 11:54:37 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 11:48:09 2015. Why does CNN spin so much? They embrace airplane crashes so much you would think they would get it right. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Mar 25 14:08:18 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 10:21:32 2015. We are now 30+ hours after the event with no (credible) claim of terrorism. That alone makes terrorism unlikely. In order to incite "terror", there must be the fear that the people behind the act can and will do it again.I wouldn't call Pilot Suicide terrorism for that reason. I also think that within 24 hours they should be able to review the passenger log to determine whether anyone "suspicious" might have been on board. Still, I tend to disagree with the "terrorism has been ruled out" phrasing until they know more. Unlikely at this point, for sure -- but not yet ruled out. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 14:20:46 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Charles G on Wed Mar 25 14:08:18 2015. The proper response would have been "We don't know if terrorism was involved." |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 14:40:09 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 14:20:46 2015. There is nothing wrong with "There is no evidence of terrorism" if that is true. Public authorities are not responsible for CNN stupidity. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 15:26:42 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 14:20:46 2015. I think CNN just doesn't speak enough French to understand (from the Times):Speaking on the French radio station RTL, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said on Wednesday morning that terrorism was “not a privileged hypothesis at the moment,” |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 16:04:13 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 15:26:42 2015. Well, is it an "garden variety hypothesis" or maybe an "underprivileged hypothesis" ? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 25 16:05:45 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 16:04:13 2015. Haha, but somebody needs French 201 at CNN.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 18:26:52 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 25 16:05:45 2015. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 25 18:28:36 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 18:26:52 2015. Umm ... "Cara Mia" is Italian. :) |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Mar 25 20:30:10 2015, in response to Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 10:10:43 2015. Here |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 21:49:27 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 25 18:28:36 2015. You must have missed the "Tish, that's French" line. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 21:53:50 2015, in response to Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 25 10:10:43 2015. Latest news is that one of the pilots left the cockpit and was unable to return before the plane went down. “The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer,” an unnamed investigator told the New York Times. “And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer.”“You can hear he is trying to smash the door down,” the investigator added. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 22:01:47 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 21:53:50 2015. Sorry, Cortel. I didn't see your earlier post. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 25 22:40:34 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 21:49:27 2015. Probably did. That movie was interesting, but it ain't John Astin and Carolyn Jones. Them guys are imposters! :)And come to think of it, they were imposters too because some of us remember the ORIGINAL Addams Family. 
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Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 07:47:25 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 25 22:40:34 2015. True. I didn't care much for the movies. John Astin was classic. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 08:05:23 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Mar 25 20:30:10 2015. It's starting to look like the co-pilot deliberately crashed the plane.http://news.yahoo.com/co-pilot-initiated-descent-ahead-alps-crash-prosecutor-115540416.html |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 26 09:49:36 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 07:47:25 2015. The movies didn't work for me either. There's only the TV version. I can't think of a film version of a TV show that worked for me, now that I think about it. Flintstones, Mission Impossible, no. Ok, maybe The Fugitive.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Mar 26 10:02:42 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 08:05:23 2015. It has been looking like that since the very moment that it was learned that no distress signal was sent. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Mar 26 11:55:40 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 25 22:40:34 2015. But Christina Ricci was my favorite Wednesday. The right combination of cute and morbid. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 12:09:44 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 26 09:49:36 2015. Some of the Star Trek movies were good. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 12:10:37 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Thu Mar 26 11:55:40 2015. IAWTP. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Mar 26 12:26:00 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Thu Mar 26 11:55:40 2015. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Mar 26 13:45:10 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Mar 26 12:26:00 2015. And that was one of my favorite clips. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 15:47:45 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 26 09:49:36 2015. Speaking of that:Can I swing from a web? No I can't, I'm a pig. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 26 16:58:23 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by SLRT on Thu Mar 26 11:55:40 2015. True, good choice there. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 26 17:03:59 2015, in response to Re: Germanwings disaster question, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 26 07:47:25 2015. Astin did the best trainwrecks. But bonus credit to the film for THIS scene:  I was hoping to find it, that was actually one of Charles' cartoons there being depicted. |
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