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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 11:59:22 2014 THIS. Couldn't have expressed it any better. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 12 12:02:59 2014, in response to Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 11:59:22 2014. Consider that the guy may be sniffing too much gasoline. |
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Re: Biased commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 12:05:58 2014, in response to Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 11:59:22 2014. The AATTP is a hate group that promotes godless Democrats. No credibility whatsoever. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 13:04:55 2014, in response to Re: Biased commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 12:05:58 2014. It still doesn't change the facts as our Canadian friend listed them. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 14:31:25 2014, in response to Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 11:59:22 2014. If you couldn't express it better then you're as ignorant as the writer. His letter is factually incorrect on many levels. Unemployment is down but wages are stagnant, up just 2% in the last 12 months. We also have the lowest labor participation rate since Carter was in office.And we're leading the world and respected internationally? I wish! Leading in what way? A poll not too long ago showed a majority of Americans believe Obama is not respected by other world leaders. The power and respect of the United States is declining around the world, America’s allies do not believe that we will come to their defense in a time of crisis, and U.S. global leadership is embarrassingly inept. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 12 15:08:20 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 14:31:25 2014. America’s allies do not believe that we will come to their defense in a time of crisisDepends what you mean by ally. Do you think it would be good policy for the US to reassure Ukraine that if Russia invades, the US will come to its aid? Eisenhower did that for Hungary in 1956, and see where it got them. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 15:12:56 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 14:31:25 2014. US global leadership is embarrassingly ineptReally? Obama got the first START treaty since the Cold War signed with the Russians, effectively ended the threat of African coastal piracy against our merchant shipping, took a VERY strong stand, including sanctions, against countries with poor human-rights records, made the US a leading global trade partner (have you noticed the railroads are enjoying their highest traffic levels in decades, so much so that the major carriers are laying new track at an astonishing rate), and countries all over the world still look to us for humanitarian, economic, and industrial aid. Hardly "inept" leadership. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 12 15:17:50 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 15:12:56 2014. And Russia's economy is sinking fast, thanks to our sanctions. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 12 15:25:34 2014, in response to Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 11:59:22 2014. I think Jonathan Gruber, one of the architects of obamacare said it better. He said that they deliberately used confusing language and counted on the stupidity of the (liberal) American voter to get the bill passed. |
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Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian! |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 17:10:57 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 12 15:12:56 2014. Eleven years ago America conquered Iraq in a matter of weeks. Yet when Obama pulled our last troops out in 2011, there was little to show for all the lives lost and billions spent. The regime we left behind in Baghdad is barely friendly.The Egypt government ignores our complaints about human rights violations and buys lots of Russian weapons. In Syria, Assad was caught red-handed gassing his own people, an act that Obama had specifically warned would trigger American punishment. Yet this “red line” was crossed almost with impunity. The widespread impression in the Middle East is perceived abandonment. Iraq is friendlier with Iran than America. Iran backs militias and political parties in Iraq. It sends bullets and “advisers” to Syria via Iraqi airspace. It sponsors Iraqi Shia volunteers to fight American-supplied Sunni rebels in Syria. Rogue states will behave more roguishly if they doubt America’s will to stop them. And you think our sanctions are hurting Russia? Falling oil prices are having a deeper effect. Obama himself this spring said there are no guarantees that sanctions will change Putin’s thinking over Ukraine. The U.S. is not the leading global trading partner; China surpassed us in 2012. There are 124 countries that consider China their largest trading partner while only 76 have that relationship with the U.S. The increased rail traffic in the U.S. is due largely to transporting oil, fracking sand, and natural gas. Our improving economy also is contributing to increased rail traffic but our balance of trade deficit is widening again. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 19:15:58 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 17:10:57 2014. Eleven years ago America conquered Iraq in a matter of weeks.HAHAHA! We never got to control even one square foot of Iraqi territory. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 12 19:19:14 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 19:15:58 2014. Wow you hate this country. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 12 19:24:22 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 12 19:15:58 2014. We never got to control even one square foot of Iraqi territory.Now, now, we controlled a lot of square feet. As long as it was heavily barricaded or had no Iraqis living nearby. :-) |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 19:30:19 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 12 19:19:14 2014. Yes he does. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 12 19:48:07 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 19:30:19 2014. Huh? What's your basis for that offensive statement?(I don't ask CMM because I already know his basis.) |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Wed Nov 12 20:40:42 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 12 19:48:07 2014. So I guess its ok to criticize Obama but when Bush is critcized we hate America. Gotta love republican logic... The simple fact is this country is in a WHOLE LOT better shape with Obama in office than the mess Bush left us with. Are we perfect no but we came out of the recession a lot better than most countries affected in 2008. No person in their right minds can deny that. And Bush didn't win in Iraq he did a half assed job that's why we're still there now not to mention we should have never been there in the first place... |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Nov 12 21:37:55 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 17:10:57 2014. there was little to show for all the lives lost and billions spentThat place was going to suck unless we ran it like a colony and kept it forever. It's easy to overwhelm a crappy army starved for equipment, but it's another when you're stuck with a corrupt civilian administration that had revanchist tendencies. In Syria, Assad was caught red-handed gassing his own people, an act that Obama had specifically warned would trigger American punishment. To be honest, letting him gas his people may still be better than the alternative of invading another Arab cesspool, and ending up with another Islamist state. Either we break up Syria and Iraq, or they stay unified and weak regimes with an illiberal democracy, or they become brutal Islamist hellholes. The Egypt government ignores our complaints about human rights violations Of course they're going to ignore us. We don't care enough to actually force them to do something, and quite frankly, the stability of the current regime is far more amenable when compared to what could have happened under the Muslim Brotherhood. Rogue states will behave more roguishly if they doubt America’s will to stop them. The problem with rogue states is that the cost of dealing with them has increased considerably, and nobody is really willing to risk starting a real war against them. Dealing with North Korea means watching South Korea burn and dealing with the Chinese who prefer a buffer state. Dealing with Ukraine means dealing with Russia, and that would be World War III. Dealing with Iran means a far more full fledged war and occupation compared to what took place in Iraq in 2003, and I question if the American population would be willing to endure the costs of such an engagement. Syria is probably easier, but for all intents and purposes, do we really want to back the Sunnis when their biggest representation is a bunch of jihadis? The U.S. is not the leading global trading partner; China surpassed us in 2012. There are 124 countries that consider China their largest trading partner while only 76 have that relationship with the U.S. They're all buying the same junk that we buy from the Chinese, and the Chinese are buying up their minerals and other natural resources in order to ensure a steady supply for production of consumer goods. In turn, the Chinese are slowly turning out capital goods with excellent financing terms to compete against equivalents from the Occident. |
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Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 12 21:44:16 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Nov 12 21:37:55 2014. The Egypt government ignores our complaints about human rights violationsOf course they're going to ignore us. We don't care enough to actually force them to do something, and quite frankly, the stability of the current regime is far more amenable when compared to what could have happened under the Muslim Brotherhood. Not to mention that Egypt has been ignoring us with respect to human rights, for how long? When did Mubarak come into power? We need Egypt as an ally, so we pay them and don't lean on them. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 23:32:52 2014, in response to Re: Best commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 12 14:31:25 2014. What do you want from überlibs, the truth? |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Nov 13 07:24:35 2014, in response to Re: Biased commentary On US Midterm Elections, From A Canadian!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 12 23:32:52 2014. My bad. |
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