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New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014

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After receiving not one,but Two of those "we are monitoring/reviewing your voting record,don't like the way you vote so we are going to keep watch..."mailers,Ive decided to make some Major Changes concerning my political affiliation.

WTF? Who the hell do these bastards think they are?
You were actually that bold to Tell me "We are watching you"?
Well,I'm glad you've sent me that.
consider me a Former member of your party...

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:45:41 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

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Both political parties have gone insane. Its scary actually.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 08:21:55 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

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Anyone who votes Democratic is a sucker. Including Joseph Frewer, 26, who will still vote Dem in spite of this threatening letter. Not that the big-government GOP is much better, but they have not done anything like this.

CBS New York

Democrats Put Off By Letter To Voters Saying, ‘Whether You Vote Is Public Record’

October 30, 2014 11:26 PM
Midterm elections have lower voter turnout, so both parties have been pulling out all the stops to get people to the polls.

But as CBS2’s Matt Kozar reported Thursday night, one mailing sent by the New York State Democratic Committee has been raising eyebrows and angering likely voters.

Joseph Frewer, 26, got one.

“It feels like you’re being bullied into voting,” he said.

The letter starts out: “Who you vote for is your secret. But whether or not you vote is public record.” It continues: “If you do not vote this year, we will be interested to hear why not.”

“I’m already going to vote Democratic, most likely,” Frewer said. “This just feels like you’re bossing me around. It makes me less likely to want to.”

Reaction to the flier on Twitter has been mixed.

“I won’t vote this year because I got one of these,” one man wrote.
But another said, “This is pretty tame ‘social pressure.’”

David Birdsell, dean of the Baruch College School of Public Affairs, said both parties want to increase voter turnout. The question is how to do it effectively.

“Usually, it’s frightening people about the prospect of a victory for the other party if you don’t get out there,” Birdsell said. “It’s very unusual to threaten people with surveillance and following.”

When CBS2 asked about the mailing, a representative of the New York State Democratic Committee sent a statement.

“This flyer is part of the nationwide Democratic response to traditional Republican voter suppression efforts, because Democrats believe our democracy works better when more people vote, not less,” the statement said.

And while Frewer said he will still vote blue on Tuesday despite being turned off by the flier, he is worried that undecided Democrats who received the letter will not.


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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 08:22:37 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:45:41 2014.

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Just what are you talking about? As bad as the establishment GOP are, they still haven't gone this far.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:31:32 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 08:21:55 2014.

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What's so threatening about the letter?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 08:34:24 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:31:32 2014.

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You wouldn't think it's threatening because totalitarian governments don't seem to bother you. But you used to complain non-stop about the kind of police tactics they used on you. How many times did they beat you before you were fully brainwashed?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 08:45:39 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:45:41 2014.

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“If you do not vote this year, we will be interested to hear why not.”

Nothing wrong with that sentiment. The Democratic Party should be trying to find out why peopel aren't voting. It should have been worded differently though, because it does sound vaguely menacing.



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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:48:04 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 08:34:24 2014.

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You wouldn't think it's threatening because totalitarian governments don't seem to bother you.

This sentence is complete gibberish. The rest of your post is not much better. You're basically living in your own little world where up is left and down is Sunday.

So for those of us who live in the real world, would you kindly explain what's so threatening about saying: "If you don't vote, people will know that you didn't vote?"

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Posted by train dude on Fri Oct 31 08:50:46 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 08:45:39 2014.

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Vaguely menacing? So "vote for democrats or we'll kill you." might be a real threat, then?

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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:52:57 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by train dude on Fri Oct 31 08:50:46 2014.

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So "vote for democrats or we'll kill you."

WOW. Talk about a "furtile" imagination!

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:54:10 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 08:45:39 2014.

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The Democratic Party should be trying to find out why peopel aren't voting.

Pity they're not interested in actually hearing the answer. :(

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 09:09:11 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by train dude on Fri Oct 31 08:50:46 2014.

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If that's all he says about it, he's an apparatchik.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 09:13:20 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by train dude on Fri Oct 31 08:50:46 2014.

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The literal words are appropriate; they contain no threat whatsoever. Unfortunately an inappropriate tone can easily be read into those words.


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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SLRT on Fri Oct 31 09:26:15 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

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They make a threat then they try to soften it, maybe for denyabililty. I mean "[if you don't vote] we'll be interested to hear why not."

They can say, we didn't say we would find out, we just said we were interested to know. What would they do, "out" non-voters like Koch (I think) outing Johns?

I can't believe that let that thing go out. People think government and pols are big brotherish enough already.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 09:31:12 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by SLRT on Fri Oct 31 09:26:15 2014.

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I can't believe that let that thing go out.

I agree. I think the intent was reasonable but it comes off sounding really outrageous.



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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 10:10:12 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by SLRT on Fri Oct 31 09:26:15 2014.

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That's just fine. The more they are explicit about themselves, the better.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 10:56:11 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 08:45:39 2014.

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Nothing wrong with that sentiment. The Democratic Party should be trying to find out why peopel (sic) aren't voting

You're very sick and twisted.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 31 10:57:36 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 10:56:11 2014.

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LOL!

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 10:58:41 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 31 10:57:36 2014.

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Thanks for more admission that you're a Nazi. What business is it of the Democratic Party whether people are voting or not?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 11:04:03 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 09:13:20 2014.

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The literal words are appropriate; they contain no threat whatsoever

You out of your skull??

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 11:29:03 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 10:58:41 2014.

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The Democratic Party is a business. If it is ineffective at attracting customers, it has a right to inquire why. That inquiry must of course properly respect privacy rights, just like all market research undertaken by businesses.



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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 11:31:17 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 11:04:03 2014.

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No. Read the words. They want to know why you're not voting. Proper curiosity stimulated by a desire to attract more customers. They just have to gain the information they want in non-threatening ways.


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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:47:24 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 08:22:37 2014.

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No, they haven't, but they have done other crazy things.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 11:54:19 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:45:41 2014.

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Yeah!
But when I voted Republican,I never received anything like that...ever.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:54:55 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 11:29:03 2014.

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It's sick.... "we are watching you"?
It's none of their damn business.
As for "inneffective at attrackting customers".....all they need to do is see how they have handled office since 2006 (when they took over congress), and more so after 2008. The democrats have the same problem the republicans had in 2006-2008.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:56:18 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 11:54:19 2014.

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Yeah, it's pretty sick. The Republicans do other things that are sick, but there's no question this one is really sick.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:58:27 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 09:31:12 2014.

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It's going to turn alot more people off than their alleged supposed intent was.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:02:24 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:54:55 2014.

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When did the Republicans resort to this kind of stuff?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:02:38 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:47:24 2014.

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Such as?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:03:50 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:58:27 2014.

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This goes beyond merely "turning off". And even in NY State, they still have hardcore sheeple that will vote D no matter what, such as Joseph Frewer.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:07:20 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:56:18 2014.

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The Republicans do other things that are sick

Like what?

If you mean Toad Akin, he's as far from the base as one can get.

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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 12:12:37 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:02:24 2014.

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Your kidding,right?
Their tactics are worse,with voter suppression being right up there with despicable.

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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 12:12:55 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:02:24 2014.

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Your kidding,right?
Their tactics are worse,with voter suppression being right up there with despicable.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:14:52 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 12:12:55 2014.

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What voter suppression? There are no examples, unless you're talking about keeping fraud at bay, which doesn't qualify.

If you really want to believe those filthy liars that sent you that flyer, then they've punked you.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 12:33:47 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 11:54:55 2014.

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It's sick.... "we are watching you"?

Can you cite a reference for that quote? I didn't see that in the article.



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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by The Silence on Fri Oct 31 13:07:52 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

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My mother is a registered democrat (basically a DINO, bit more of an independent mindset, voted for Clinton over Dole, but Bush over Gore) and got one for missing a few elections. Namely the 2010 midterms. Which occurred while she was in North Shore-Manhasset for chemo. And she was not happy about that mailer. Had me send an email saying, in short "Who are you to tell me anything about voting".

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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 13:33:53 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by The Silence on Fri Oct 31 13:07:52 2014.

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That was a very nice reply, considering the tone of those threats.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 13:47:09 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by The Silence on Fri Oct 31 13:07:52 2014.

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Who are you to tell me anything about voting".

Good for her! That's exactly how she should feel. It's ridiculous.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 13:56:00 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 31 13:47:09 2014.

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The whole NYCDC ought to be pounded with replies like that. Pity it won't lead to the Uniparty's downfall, though; there are enough drones that will vote for them regardless of how they're bullied.

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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 15:33:56 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by The Silence on Fri Oct 31 13:07:52 2014.

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Don't blame her...
Regardless of how they are attempting to play clean up now,its offensive to the level of GALACTIC OVERLORD/BIG BROTHER 1984 crap.

The whole business just pissed me off to no end.
Independent party looking better and better these days.

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Posted by rkba on Fri Oct 31 16:02:00 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's it, time for you to officially join the Black Panther/Black Supremacy party.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 31 16:03:02 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:52:57 2014.

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I believe the word you were looking for is "futile." :)

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Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 31 16:35:41 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 12:07:20 2014.

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Akin IS the republican base. That's why they must be stopped.

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Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 00:17:52 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

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Whoever idea this was and whoever ok'd this should be fired or resign...smh

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 1 00:18:45 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 00:17:52 2014.

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You've already got Dem voters who will vote that way no matter what. Even though the party's exposed itself here.

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Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 00:20:14 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:45:41 2014.

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Iawtp

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 00:30:45 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 00:17:52 2014.

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That would be Prince Andrew.

I wasn't going to vote for him anyway, but now the entire party will be off my #2 pencil on Tuesday. I won't vote republican, but I sure as shit won't vote democrat either. And if a third party cross-endorses, I'll vote for anyone NOT on the democrat ticket or leave that entry empty.

FUCK THEM! :(

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 00:34:30 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 1 00:18:45 2014.

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I don't think you truly appreciate New York attitudes. This action was the kiss of death and just might get a Green elected because Asteroid is every bit as out of there as Paladino was. There may be Pavlovians on both sides of the aisle who will still pull the lever expecting a doggie treat, but anyone who thinks is definitely as pissed off over this as Edwards and we are.

I'm just glad we're "unenrolled in any political party" because if I had gotten this letter, I wouldn't want to stop at just not voting for any of them, which we weren't going to do anyway. This stupid though ensures that we won't vote for them on a cross-endorsed minor party line either. Fucking dumbasses.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 00:42:30 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

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I dunno about exposed to me this reeks of fear and desperation. Fear that dem voter's historic low turn out for midterm elections and the multiple polls indicating they will lose congress. Fear tactics however will have the opposite effect might keep voters home.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 00:55:50 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 00:42:30 2014.

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This is monumental stupid, and it's all Prince Andrew's doing who is finally beginning to realize that after abandoning upstate for the past four years, even the few areas of democratic sympathy are overwhelmingly going to vote his ass out this year. If the republicans hadn't put up a total retard, they could have won. But Asteroid is going to get a LOT more votes than the polls suggest so far because from state workers in Albany who vote democratic, he fucked them hard. They're going to vote for Asteroid.

The REST of the state have never seen the Prince and one thing you HAVE to do upstate is show up once in a while. He flipped us the bird throughout his royal existence, and it's going to hurt him big time. The funny part is that because the republican candidate is even MORE fucked up, watch the Green party do VERY well upstate ...

So all Prince Andrew has left is the city and surrounding semi-urban areas who he's kissed up to the past four years. New York has no dogs in the federal fight - no Senate seats open, and as to the Congressional seats, only one is likely to flip statewide a bit north of here - it will flip republican because the democrat is a bigger asshole than Asteroid.

So yeah, this intrigue is entirely Prince Andrew's doing ... :(

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