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Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Oct 28 08:34:38 2014 Says the CDC:Droplet spreadt |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Oct 28 08:53:09 2014, in response to Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 28 08:34:38 2014. I see 10, 15, 20 conservative blogs parroting the same story. Probably as true as the x rays of Officer Darren Wilson's eye were.I guess if you were yawning and somebody spit or pissed in your mouth you could contract ebola LOL Don't see no airborne droplets here your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Oct 28 08:54:04 2014, in response to Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 28 08:34:38 2014. It makes one wonder. The only "news sources" that are reporting this are "secondary" or sources that could be considered questionable.http://www.infowars.com/cdc-finally-admits-that-ebola-can-float-through-the-air-3-feet/ http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/10/cdc-finally-gets-right-ebola-spreads-aerosols-3-feet.html&sa=U&ei=AJFPVM3sD5exyASEiIGQBg&ved=0CC4QFjACOAo&usg=AFQjCNFfjgzTpcvRFsKUfxCdRCVpPGFkAQ I did a simple Google search on 'CDC Ebola' and not one of the major news services (CNN, UPI, Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC etc) has anything to say about this). It wasn't on TV either. I am not saying that it isn't possible for it to be spread airborne but you'd think that the major news organizations would have been all over this as a story by now. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 28 09:10:34 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Allan on Tue Oct 28 08:54:04 2014. This is nothing new. I read it in the NY Times over a week ago.It's still transfer of bodily fluids. It's simply that if you sneeze onto my finger and I touch my eye, we've transferred your bodily fluids to me. |
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Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Oct 28 09:40:55 2014, in response to Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 28 08:34:38 2014. That's not the same as the virus itself bring active while floating in the air. A droplet is on the same scale to the virus as a decent sized lake is to a whale. Plenty of water surrounding it to protect the structure. |
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Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Oct 28 09:45:53 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Fred G on Tue Oct 28 08:53:09 2014. I guess if you were yawning and somebody spit or pissed in your mouth you could contract ebola...among other things. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:13:29 2014, in response to Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 28 08:34:38 2014. "Natural News?" Seriously? |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 07:08:14 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:13:29 2014. Why does everyone criticize the news source when it's who they're quoting that's the important part? The CDC has reported that droplet spread can spread ebola; that's what the NN story was reporting. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Oct 29 07:12:59 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 07:08:14 2014. Criticized because it's non scientific. Can't shit a shitter, Dave.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 07:34:34 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 07:08:14 2014. Why does everyone criticize the news source when it's who they're quoting that's the important part?Well gee, a person with a long history of spewing bullshit and telling lies declares: "The CDC totally says ebola can be spread by airborne transmission," why shouldn't we believe him? After all, the CDC is trustworthy and it's not like a liar might be lying about what the CDC said, right? After all, it's not like I can actually check what the CDC actually says. Airborne transmission of Ebola virus has been hypothesized but not demonstrated in humans. While Ebola virus can be spread through airborne particles under experimental conditions in animals, this type of spread has not been documented during human EVD outbreaks in settings such as hospitals or households. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 29 08:12:01 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 07:08:14 2014. The CDC has reported that droplet spread can spread ebola; that's what the NN story was reporting.No, the story is reporting "CDC now admits Ebola can spread through the air" and asserts that the CDC "is starting to move the narrative." Both are patently false. Droplet spread and airborne transmission are not the same thing, and the CDC isn't moving any narrative; it's doing the opposite and stressing that it is not airborne. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 29 08:45:41 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 07:08:14 2014. Why does everyone criticize the news source when it's who they're quoting that's the important part?Because they didn't quote anyone. There's no real quote in the article that pertains to the main subject of the article. There's also no LINK to any sort of source material. Blog posts like that are obviously 100% bullshit. That post fails every test. You got pwn3d :( |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:18:21 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 29 08:12:01 2014. That PDF is not linked from anywhere I can find on the CDC website, it contradicts everything else the CDC is saying, and it's written, well, oddly— using simplified childish language.That PDF notwithstanding, there's no evidence that ebola is spread through coughs or sneezes. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 09:19:37 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 07:08:14 2014. In addition to all the interpretation, there's also nothing new here. I read about droplet spread more than a week ago in the NY Times. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 10:32:29 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:18:21 2014. That PDF notwithstanding, there's no evidence that ebola is spread through coughs or sneezes.If someone with contagious ebola sneezes onto your fingers, and you then rub your eye, why would that not possibly transmit ebola? It transmission of bodily fluids. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 11:06:56 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 02:13:29 2014. Proff or shens, psychopath. |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Oct 29 11:07:53 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 11:06:56 2014. +10 |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 11:11:51 2014, in response to Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 28 08:34:38 2014. Already in the NY Times on October 2. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 29 11:16:05 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 29 09:18:21 2014. That PDF is not linked from anywhere I can find on the CDC website, it contradicts everything else the CDC is saying, and it's written, well, oddly— using simplified childish language.I'm not sure why you're arguing with me since I'm agreeing with you. If you paid attention to the URL, you'll note it's on the CDC website. It summarizes information from the transmission studies you linked to, although that page hypothesizes that airborne transmission is possible but unconfirmed ("In outbreak investigations, some EVD patients have not reported contact with another EVD patient, leading to speculation regarding transmission via aerosolized virus particles...transmission via droplets or fomites were also not ruled out." "Airborne transmission of EVD among humans has never been demonstrated in investigations that have described human-to-human transmission although hypothetical concerns about airborne transmission of EVD have been raised."). The same information in html form is on the CDC's Ebola Transmission page, and the actual PDF can be found from the CDC website by clicking the big purple "Ebola Update" graphic; then "Factsheets" under "Communication Resources" on the right side of the page, about halfway down; then "What’s the difference between infections spread through the air or by droplets?[PDF - 1 page]," the third bullet. That PDF notwithstanding, there's no evidence that ebola is spread through coughs or sneezes. That's what the PDF (and other CDC information) says - unless someone coughs or sneezes directly into an unprotected mucous membrane, there's no risk of spread through coughs or sneezes. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 29 11:22:56 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 11:11:51 2014. Already in the NY Times on October 2.Not the same story. The Toothpaste Times didn't assert that "droplet spread" really means "airborne" or that 3 feet today will be 5 feet tomorrow, then 10 feet, then incinerating all victims' possessions next month. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 11:27:24 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 29 08:45:41 2014. Bullshit. That's not a blog post, and the CDC itself is cited.You pwn3d urself with your liberal "shoot the messenger" crap. Never mind defending someone like Nilet. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 29 11:39:29 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 11:27:24 2014. Bullshit. That's not a blog post, and the CDC itself is cited.The CDC is cited, then accused of "splitting hairs" between "airborne" and "droplet spread" as if they are the same thing. Followed up with "today they say three feet, tomorrow five feet, then ten feet, the incinerating victims' possessions." 
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 12:14:42 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 29 11:39:29 2014. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a 10-foot sneeze somewhere in the Guiness Book of World Records. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 29 12:41:24 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 11:06:56 2014. Affirmative claims require proff. Just because some dumbass blog says something is true doesn't mean it actually is. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 14:04:21 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 12:14:42 2014. Don't know about distance but the longest sneezing fit ever recorded is that of Donna Griffiths (UK) who started sneezing on January 13, 1981. She sneezed an estimated million times in the first 365 days and achieved her first sneeze-free day on September 16 1983 — the 978th day. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Oct 29 15:39:50 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 29 14:04:21 2014. Gesundheit!! :)Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 21:19:25 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 11:27:24 2014. Bullshit.Nope. That's not a blog post,Yes it is. and the CDC itself is cited.Because they didn't quote anyone. There's no real quote in the article that pertains to the main subject of the article. You pwn3d urself with your liberal "shoot the messenger" crap.Huh??? I'm liberal???? Never mind defending someone like Nilet.I will defend him if he is in the right and someone else is in the wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 21:21:04 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 29 11:16:05 2014. pwn3d |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:28:36 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 29 21:21:04 2014. You need to work on your social skills. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:53:39 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:28:36 2014. No, I am afraid it is you that has a problem in social situations. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 30 14:19:49 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:53:39 2014. It's funny how he's calling the CDC "pseudoscience" too. Thought he'd hang on their every word? |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:23:03 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:53:39 2014. Dunning-Kruger claims another victim.You poor soul. |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:23:05 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN be spread via airborne transmission, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 30 14:19:49 2014. 29. Where have I called the CDC "pseudoscience?"I've preemptively numbered this one, since we both know it'll end up on the List of Questions Olog Can't Answer. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 30 21:42:55 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:23:03 2014. Lol!!!!! |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 23:08:10 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 30 21:42:55 2014. You poor soul. :(I hope you get the help you need. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:40:18 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 23:08:10 2014. Lol!!!!! |
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Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:25:35 2014, in response to Re: Ebola CAN'T be spread via airborne transmission, regardless of what a pseudoscience rag claims., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:40:18 2014. Talk about acting like a child. You prove it with every post. |
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