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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 18:58:05 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 17:02:09 2014. Without Congress? Isn't that imperial tyranny? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 18:59:45 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 16:51:56 2014. As Fred said, it doesn't. And Romneycare being a STATE program, it has no right t ask the IRS to do anything. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 19:00:20 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 17:04:02 2014. Thank you! His grasp of federalism is non-existent. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 19:07:10 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 16:44:46 2014. Fox News daily viewers 6pm- 11pm = about 10,000,000 (total adding viewers for each 1-hour period)NBC/ABC/CBS network nightly news total viewers (one half-our period) - about 23,000,000 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 19:14:53 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Oct 11 13:48:11 2014. I see lots of exploding liberal heads on this thread. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 11 19:17:07 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 11 14:14:39 2014. +1 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 11 19:17:48 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 18:54:07 2014. z |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 19:24:43 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 19:14:53 2014. I don't. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 19:31:13 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 18:57:02 2014. If it weren't for no-information voters, the GOP would have faded away by now. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 19:32:09 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 19:00:20 2014. Consider his sources whose sole interest is dismantling this nation and cashing it in for themselves. :( |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:34:53 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 19:14:53 2014. You can just smell their panic or is bingbang here again |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:37:51 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Oct 11 17:33:00 2014. More than me? We were talking about soap - not ass size. |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:39:50 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 18:58:05 2014. Zerobama has the pen and his phone. He says he don't need no stinking congress. |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:41:51 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 19:07:10 2014. Excellent. Which one of them rates hogher than fox? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 11 19:44:36 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:34:53 2014. LOL!! Who's panicking? |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:46:13 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:37:51 2014. More than you? We're talking soap here and not ass size. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 11 19:47:50 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:37:51 2014. Yes, as far as soap is considered. But I'll hand it to you on ass sizes...in every way, literal and figurative. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 11 19:49:00 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:41:51 2014. Any one of them in their time slot. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 19:53:25 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:46:13 2014. So use some and stop arguing with yourself. :) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 20:03:24 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 11 19:49:00 2014. Yes, by far. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 20:04:03 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:41:51 2014. The point is, traditional network news far outpaces Fux News in viewers. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Oct 11 20:32:51 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 19:14:53 2014. I think you see a lot of things.When you look up at the sky do you see doilies? I think you do 🙈 Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 20:37:55 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 11 14:14:39 2014. The Democrats should have been HAMMERING the GOP on last year's government shutdownThe Dems caused the shutdown. Harry Reid refused to entertain any house bills, so he shut down the government. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 20:38:13 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 11 19:17:07 2014. Everything in there is false, though. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 20:39:08 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 19:39:50 2014. Except on issues the people want and he doesn't. Then he kicks the ball back to Kongress. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 20:44:00 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 20:39:08 2014. What's wrong with that? Isn't Congress representing the people? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 20:55:28 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 20:37:55 2014. LOL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 21:08:38 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 20:55:28 2014. Heh; you know it's true. Harry Reid was the big obstructionist there.And it was only a partial shutdown besides. The ordinary person, thankfully, was not affected and life went on despite the liberal politicians' threats. Federal spending slowed down for the first time in ages. But the lib media as usual played it up into something it absolutely was not. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 21:21:47 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 20:44:00 2014. Lately, it seems as though Congress is only representing the county asylum. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Oct 11 21:32:01 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 11 14:14:39 2014. I agree 100% never undetstood that about democrats and actually respect about the republicans. When republicans go after dems it's no holds bar they throw everything at them and the kitchen sink. And the dems always seem to be playing by some imaginary rules when going at the republicans. In politics the sqeaky mice gets the cheese. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 11 21:42:11 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Fred G on Sat Oct 11 15:25:36 2014. I can believe it. :-( |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sat Oct 11 21:42:28 2014, in response to WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 13:33:30 2014. So what? You can't obstruct a President who doesn't do anything. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 11 21:47:56 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 21:08:38 2014. And yet, knowing all of this ahead of time, they decided to play anyway. Now whose fault would that be? They took the bait, ate the grenade, and then had a nice cold glass of gasoline as a chaser. So what does this prove? Hurr durr. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 11 21:50:41 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 11 16:44:46 2014. Fox News actually has pathetically low ratings. They only claim it's high ratings by comparing it to CNN and MSNBC. That's like saying you're rich just because you have more money than a homeless person and someone who can only afford to live in a trailer. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 22:28:01 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Mitch45 on Sat Oct 11 21:42:28 2014. So are executive orders beyond his authority part of "doesn't do anything", or were you thinking of something else? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 11 23:02:13 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 19:24:43 2014. You don't suffer from hallucinations, then. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 00:07:11 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Oct 11 21:32:01 2014. Yet when Wendy Davis goes after Greg Abbott, in the other thread, she gets hammered as disgusting and outrageous. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 12 00:18:50 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 11 21:50:41 2014. z |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Oct 12 00:41:39 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Oct 11 20:44:00 2014. If corporations are people then yes they areYour pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 03:01:04 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 00:07:11 2014. By whom? Outside of here, nobody's finding much fault with her. Her Claims are not being questioned. Apparently it's well known that Abbott did this. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 03:09:44 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 03:01:04 2014. Yeah, but republicans have to have their daily butthurt lest they notice what their OWN are trying. :) |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Oct 12 03:23:17 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 03:09:44 2014. The attack might not have been in the best taste but imo she had a very good point imo. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Oct 12 03:24:35 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Oct 12 03:23:17 2014. Other than the chair, it was dead on. Not my idea of good taste but the chair might make the ad unforgettable.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Oct 12 11:27:28 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 11 20:37:55 2014. The house bills were designed in such a way that there was no way that Harry Reid could entertain them. They were not designed in good faith. |
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Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 11:43:48 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by TonyG on Sun Oct 12 11:27:28 2014. Cite a specific example please |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Oct 12 11:48:46 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 11:43:48 2014. Yes. They were tied to de-funding Obamacare, something anyone with half a brain would know is a non-starter for the Democrats.SOURCE: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-passes-bill-funding-government-defunding-obamacare/ ByJAKE MILLER CBS NEWS September 29, 2013, 4:41 PM House passes bill funding government, defunding Obamacare Updated at 3:01 p.m. ET House Republicans advanced a bill on Friday that would continue funding the government at current spending levels for nearly three months but would strip money appropriated to fund Obamacare, following through on months of threats and inviting the prospect of a government shutdown if the Senate, as expected, does not accede to the House's decision before an Oct. 1 deadline. The bill was passed on a largely party line vote, with 228 Republicans and two Democrats voting in favor of passage. 188 Democrats and one Republican were opposed. Immediately after the vote concluded, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and much of the Republican conference held a rally at the Capitol to celebrate. Boehner described the vote as a "victory" for the American people, calling Obamacare a "train wreck" that is "hurting our constituents," and pushing the Senate to approve the House bill. "The American people don't want the government to shut down and they don't want Obamacare," he said, "The House has listened to the American people. Now it's time for the United States Senate to listen to them as well." Ahead of the vote, House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers, R-Ky., urged his colleagues to support the continuing resolution (CR), which allocates $986 billion to keep the government afloat through December 15. The CR "is clean, it's short term, it continues reductions in federal discretionary spending, but most importantly...it will prevent a government shutdown," Rogers said. He warned his colleagues in the House and Senate of the "severe" consequences that would result from a shutdown, saying it would shirk one of the most "basic duties" of congressmen and put America's national security at risk. Nevertheless, House Republicans' vote on Friday sets up a high-stakes game of chicken with the Democratic Senate, making the possibility of a government shutdown very real if the two chambers cannot iron out their differences over the next 10 days. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., condemned the resolution and the chamber that passed it in a fiery floor speech before the vote. "This place is a mess," she said, her voice snapping like a whip. "Let's get our house in order. We are legislators. We have come here to do a job for the American people." "What is brought to the floor today is without a doubt a measure designed to shut down government," she said. "Its purpose is clear, and if our colleagues on the Republican side deny that then they have no idea of the gravity of the situation." Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said again Thursday that any bill that defunds the health care law is "dead" when it reaches the upper chamber. Next week, the Senate is likely to strip the language pertaining to Obamacare out of the bill and send it back to the House, daring lawmakers in the lower chamber to vote against a funding bill mere days before the law currently funding the government expires. A passionate contingent of Senate Republicans, led by Sens. Ted Cruz, R-Texas and Mike Lee, R-Utah, have vowed to follow the House's lead and ensure the president's health care law is not funded, but the reality that the Senate is controlled by Democrats makes their task all but impossible. Despite the forbidding road ahead, Cruz vowed on Thursday to do "everything necessary and anything possible to defund Obamacare," including but not limited to a filibuster on the floor of the Senate to halt any bill that funds the law. Of course, even in the unlikely event that a spending bill sans Obamacare manages to pass the Senate, President Obama has threatened to veto it, which would require a two-thirds majority to override. During a speech in Kansas City, Mo. on Friday, President Obama lit into Republicans pushing to defund Obamacare, telling the audience that his opponents are "focused on politics. They're focused on trying to mess with me. They're not focused on you." He commended the "reasonable Republicans" who are willing to pass a budget and raise the debt ceiling without defunding Obamacare, contrasting them with a "faction on the far right" that is "willing to plunge America into default if we can't defund the Affordable Care Act." "You don't have to threaten to blow the whole thing up just because you don't get your way," he said, warning of the economic calamity that would result from a shutdown, or worse, from a default on the nation's debt if Congress fails to lift the debt ceiling. Some Republicans have warned their colleagues that the decision to use the spending bill to defund the health care law is a fool's errand, in light of Mr. Obama's veto pen and Democrats' majority in the Senate. "In the United States Senate, we will not repeal, or defund, Obamacare. We will not. And to think we can is not rational," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CNN on Thursday. "We don't have 67 Republican votes in the Senate, which would be required to override a presidential veto." Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., accused Cruz and his ilk of peddling a "fraud" by insisting that defunding Obamacare is possible. "They know it's not going to win," he said Thursday on CNN. "If he can deliver on this, fine. If he can't, he should keep quiet from now on and we shouldn't listen to him." That the GOP's efforts to undo Obamacare are building to a climax at the end of September is no coincidence. Several central provisions of the healthcare law will go into effect on October 1, including the law's insurance exchanges, which allow people to comparison shop for health coverage in an online marketplace. Some Republicans worry that if they can't stop the law before it gets off the ground, they'll never have another opportunity. Complicating that fear, however, is the reality that de-funding the law simply won't do much to stop it. A report from the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service found that, even under a government shutdown, "substantial ACA funding" would likely continue © 2013 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. |
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Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 11:55:21 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by TonyG on Sun Oct 12 11:48:46 2014. So your claim is that every bill out of the house was tied to defunding obamacare ? More than 300 bills? Even if your claim was true why shouldn't the entire senate be allowed to vote them up or down? Is Hairy Reid the only elected senator? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 12:36:26 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 11:55:21 2014. Why waste time on votes that would be losers for the GOP bill from the start?And since we know the House voted to defend Obamacare more than 50 times (I lose count), a large proportion of the 300 bills you cite probably did contain a defund-Obamacare rider in them. And the others probably had other types of poison pills in them. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 12 12:45:20 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 11:55:21 2014. Total BS, if that's what he's saying. All bills out of the House had Zerocare fully funded and utterly untouched; didn't stop them from screwing up the website, of course. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 12:47:06 2014, in response to Re: WaPo's electoral model gives GOP a 95% chance of retaking Senate, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 12 12:45:20 2014. "All bills out of the House had Zerocare fully funded and utterly untouched."Patently false, but why am I not surprised. |
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