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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 09:50:01 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Mon Sep 29 18:30:50 2014. Your life is a fairy tale. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 09:50:46 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Mon Sep 29 18:30:52 2014. Why do you claim that I do what I don't do? That is the question. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 10:50:45 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Mon Sep 29 18:30:55 2014. Your answer did not support your assertion. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 30 14:22:38 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 09:50:01 2014. iawtlp |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:21:22 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 29 22:58:14 2014. WMATAGMOAGH does not deny or minimize Israel's violence and its complicity in the conflicts in that area. He explains them exactly as they are, with their proper gravity.Oh, that must explain why every time I do exactly that, he shrieks about how "antisemitic" it is to dare suggest Israel is less than perfect. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:22:09 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 06:57:59 2014. Honestly, with posts like that, maybe you are a second grade dropout. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:26:08 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Sep 30 00:48:35 2014. I think I've explained what a Jewish state is in the past and you didn't like what I had to say. I'm not sure why that would be any different now.I've explained to you how the demographics of your proposal would wipe Israel out. I need not explain it again. You've explained that you consider a "Jewish state" to be one whose population is majority-Jewish because Jews are a Superior Race® and that if demographics shift towards a non-Jewish majority then that would wipe out Israel because non-Jews are subhuman and inevitably destroy anything they touch or something like that. Of course that's bullshit but something being bullshit hasn't stopped you from believing it before and it's not like you offered a better explanation. There is nothing separate and unequal being proposed here. I proposed the creation of a Palestinian state... Yes, the creation of a separate Palestinian state. What part of the phrase "separate is inherently unequal" do you find confusing? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:29 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Sep 30 00:49:59 2014. So then you don't believe in right of conquest after all? It's not like the UN fought any wars.Or alternatively, if you do believe in right of conquest, would it be safe to say that the Jews had no right to Israel until 1948? By your own argument, the idea that Jews have a claim to Israel as an "ancestral homeland" is bullshit since they lost that claim when they lost the land in a war millennia ago. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:32 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Sep 30 00:49:43 2014. OK that proves you never read anything I said and that you live in a fantasy world so it looks like I was right. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:33 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 09:49:35 2014. That's numberwang! |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:34 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 09:50:46 2014. You told me you did! |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:36 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 07:48:21 2014. Not recently, no.Case in point. Now that we both agree you have no idea what you're talking about, you are free to shut up. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:37 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 23:40:27 2014. Funny how WMATA couldn't manage to drool out one of his usual incoherent responses to that one. Maybe he couldn't think of anything to say that wouldn't make him sound more racist than he already is. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:39:41 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 10:50:45 2014. Considering your inability to grasp nuance and context, I wouldn't expect you to understand.Don't worry your pretty little head about it— the adults can take care of this. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:39:53 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 30 06:55:03 2014. ?? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 20:21:15 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:26:08 2014. Why is it that you always rail against the Jewish state, but you never rail against the Italian state, French state or Czech state? |
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Posted by Gamera on Fri Oct 3 20:33:48 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 20:21:15 2014. +100 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 3 20:38:55 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 20:21:15 2014. For the same reason he targets Jewish high holy days for ridicule. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 21:11:10 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 20:21:15 2014. Explain how I can "convert" to Frenchness or Italiandom and claim "right of return" to a place I've never lived and I will do exactly that."Italian" and "French" and "Czech" are nationalities— they are literally defined by living in that state (or having been born there). "Jewish" refers to a religion and a vague ethnicity akin to "Christian" and "white" respectively. At no point have I ever railed against the existence of an Israeli state - in fact, I've explicitly supported one - and if France or Italy or the Czech Republic were to declare themselves Christian States or White States to which any Christian or white person has an automatic "right of return," I would oppose that too. The interesting thing is that only an absolute moron could possibly think your argument is legitimate, so you must have known you were lying when you posted that. Why did you feel the need to be dishonest? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 3 21:11:13 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:37 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 21:11:21 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 3 20:38:55 2014. Liar. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:15:36 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 21:11:10 2014. No. They're all ethnicities. Christian is a religion and White is a race. Jews are currently considered white.As for conversions, all of those states allow some level of immigration of people who have no ancestral connection to the country. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 21:35:23 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:15:36 2014. No. They're all ethnicities. Christian is a religion and White is a race. Jews are currently considered white.You're playing semantic games. Of France, Italy, Israel, and the Czech Republic, only one will let me move there on nothing more than a vague claim of an ancestor living there 3,000 years ago or my agreeing to join their religion. As for conversions, all of those states allow some level of immigration of people who have no ancestral connection to the country. Yes, but of the four you mentioned, only Israel will allow automatic immigration for people who belong to a specific religion. Saudi Arabia does that too, but I don't think the Israeli nutters like it when people notice. So anyway, why were you being dishonest? And why are you continuing to be dishonest? Is it because you have no legitimate arguments to make? If so, you can just agree that I'm right— it won't make your foreskin spontaneously grow back. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 21:43:23 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:15:36 2014. Jews are currently considered white.Even if they're black? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:54:05 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 21:35:23 2014. You're playing semantic games. Of France, Italy, Israel, and the Czech Republic, only one will let me move there on nothing more than a vague claim of an ancestor living there 3,000 years ago or my agreeing to join their religion.LOL! FALSE! There are actually a number of countries that recognize a "diaspora" and allow people who can claim ancestry to move to the country. Yes, but of the four you mentioned, only Israel will allow automatic immigration for people who belong to a specific religion. They also allow people who are ethnically Jewish but who are not members of the Jewish religion to immigrate. So anyway, why were you being dishonest? And why are you continuing to be dishonest? Is it because you have no legitimate arguments to make? If so, you can just agree that I'm right— it won't make your foreskin spontaneously grow back. I wasn't being dishonest. I'll agree that you're right when you actually are right. Your just claiming that you're right doesn't make it so. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:54:27 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 21:43:23 2014. Except for them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 22:26:43 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:54:05 2014. LOL! FALSE! There are actually a number of countries that recognize a "diaspora" and allow people who can claim ancestry to move to the country.Three thousand years? Which ones will allow people more than two generations removed? They also allow people who are ethnically Jewish but who are not members of the Jewish religion to immigrate. Yes, and if any other country offers free immigration to white people on the grounds that they are the White Nation, I will oppose that too. I wasn't being dishonest. You are continuing to be dishonest. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 22:26:47 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:54:27 2014. So in other words, you were full of shit when you denied that "Judaism" is a vague ethnicity. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 22:34:51 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 22:26:47 2014. Race is arbitrary. Ethnicity is not. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 22:42:22 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 22:34:51 2014. They're basically the same thing. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 5 12:49:14 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:26:08 2014. Why shouldn't the Palestinians have a state of their own like nearly every other group of people on this planet (which by definition is assumed to be separate from other states, and therefore, those other states are not responsible for its welfare, infrastructure, etc.)? Why is it is Israel's job to govern a group of people who it doesn't want to govern and don't want Israel governing them? The Palestinians say they want a state. They can have it, provided they get along with their neighbors and are willing to build it themselves the way every other successful state does. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 5 12:51:14 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:29 2014. No, it doesn't exactly work that way. The Israelis aren't looking to entirely wipe out the Palestinians (with some exceptions such as Kahanists). Many Palestinians are looking to wipe out Israel, and the Palestinians came around pretty recently as far as world history goes. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 5 14:24:44 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 5 12:51:14 2014. "Wipe out the Palestinians (with some exceptions such as Kahanists)." That is not true. How can you wipe out a people that do not exist? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 15:31:29 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 5 12:49:14 2014. Why shouldn't the Palestinians have a state of their own like nearly every other group of people on this planet...Like what? There's no railfan state, no atheist state, no egalitarian state and no people-who-read-XKCD state. If you want to go by vaguely defined ancestry-based demographics, there's no Romani state and no Ashkenazi state. There are tons of unique "peoples" native to the Americas and Australia, but none of them have had a state for a good long while. Just recently, a Scottish state was rejected. What's with you and your desire to segregate every ethnic group into a dedicated Ethnic Group State anyway? Why is it is Israel's job to govern a group of people who it doesn't want to govern and don't want Israel governing them? Every other country does it. Why should Israel get special treatment? The Palestinians say they want a state. They can have it... ...except Israel won't let them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 15:31:32 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 5 14:24:44 2014. ??? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 15:31:36 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 5 12:51:14 2014. OK, so you believe that if you lose a war, you lose the land unless you're Jewish or Israeli?You claimed earlier that Palestinians lost their claim to land when they lost it in a war— do you believe in right of conquest or not? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 5 15:55:21 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Oct 5 14:24:44 2014. Nobody called for wiping out Arabs, obviously, or Persians or any other people. Nakbaists (for want of a better term) are National Socialists, however; utterly nihilistic and no friend to anyone, even themselves. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:24:11 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:22:09 2014. Thanks for proving my point. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:25:28 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:21:22 2014. Wrong. He does not do that. And we've already told you that several times. Not our problem if you don't listen. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:27:36 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:26:08 2014. Wrong, that's not what he said. And the P's want their own state. Plus they were given one by the UN, just like the Jews were. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:28:54 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:34 2014. No I didn't. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:29:39 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:34:36 2014. Nope. The rest of my post proves you wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:30:44 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:39:41 2014. Nope. Everyone agrees with me. Your answer did not support your assertion. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:31:18 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:39:53 2014. Haha. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:33:45 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:54:05 2014. PWN3d!!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 5 18:52:19 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 3 19:26:08 2014. So you think that the Velvet Divorce in Czechoslovakia was a bad thing? I mean Czechs and Slovaks being separate is inherently unequal, right? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 21:05:47 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 5 18:52:19 2014. The difference between one country and a pair of EU Schengen states is basically nil.Meanwhile, the border between Israel and Palestinian territories tends to resemble the Berlin Wall. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference? If Palestinians were free to live and work in Israel with no paperwork beyond the formalities of moving and vice versa, I'd have no problem with how the borders were drawn. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 21:05:59 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:24:11 2014. Thank you for proving mine. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 21:06:02 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:25:28 2014. Shoosh. The adults are talking. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 21:06:03 2014, in response to Re: In honor of Rosh Hashanah 5775, I bring you a classic informational SubTalk post, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 5 17:27:36 2014. Don't worry your pretty little head about it— the adults can handle this.Or rather, the adult since it seems increasingly obvious that I'm the only one here. |
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