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Posted by DanD124 on Sat Sep 27 22:50:47 2014 bingbong baithttps://www.texastribune.org/2014/09/26/climbing-graduation-rates-come-renewed-doubts/ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 23:26:42 2014, in response to Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by DanD124 on Sat Sep 27 22:50:47 2014. Just wait until those new textbooks get to work on the problem. :( |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 08:33:46 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 23:26:42 2014. You mean the textbooks that show history the way it actually was, not the way you libs have whitewashed it by removing Dr. Marlin Luther King and the Holocaust? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 08:55:33 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 08:33:46 2014. Why would removing mention of Martin Luther King or the Holocaust be a liberal goal?If true, it sounds more like incompetence than political bias. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 11:09:11 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 08:55:33 2014. Exactly. That's way too extreme to believe. Sounds to me like propaganda from the RW echo chamber to mask the truth about what those books really exclude....which is any sign or mention of protest. Kids are not being taught to think about what their government is doing to them. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:42:15 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 08:55:33 2014. It's liberal in that it makes textbooks more politically correct than historically accurate.My biggest complaint about the Texas textbooks is that of the 15 people on the State Board of Education, most are neither historians nor academicians. For example, one Board member is Julie Williams, a graduate of Front Range Community College in Westminster, Colorado, who works as the manager of a dental office. Seriously? She's qualified to determine what belongs or doesn't belong in a history textbook? More than a dozen professors from Texas colleges and universities volunteered to take part in reviewing texts this past summer. Almost all were turned down. Why? |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:43:17 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 11:09:11 2014. Blather from another fool who doesn't know what she's talking about. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 11:52:45 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:42:15 2014. Because they want the books to reflect the RW POV. They just want to sell their white, 'Christian'centric delusion of our history. To everyone. Like this..... History according to texas. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 12:08:47 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:42:15 2014. It's liberal in that it makes textbooks more politically correct than historically accurate.So only liberals do political correctness? Ha. What about Marco Rubio refusing to say whether he believes in evolution because he's not a scientist? That's just one of many examples of conservative political correctness. So far you haven't given me any reason to believe that omitting MLK is anything but forgetfulness and lack of proper review. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 12:13:46 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:43:17 2014. Rather it's blather from someone who doesn't get what's going on, being a willing participant in the RW echo chamber. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 12:18:34 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 08:33:46 2014. As you pointed out, y'all have some real prizes picking out the textbooks and their contents. Are you aware of how that works? It's the publishers that edit the content that appears in textbooks, after the demands of customers for what goes into them. Texas, being the largest individual purchaser of textbooks, gets to make those choices and the publisher gives them (and everybody else) what Texas wants.I suggest that the answer to your divine mystery lies a lot closer to home. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 12:56:05 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 12:08:47 2014. You'd have to ask those writing the history textbooks for national distribution why they're leaving out mention of MLK and the Holocaust. Do you seriously believe it was forgetfulness? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 13:02:21 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 12:56:05 2014. I believe it was seeking to sell texas what the want. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 13:03:18 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 12:56:05 2014. What history textbook are you talking about? Your original source did not refer to any history textbook failing to mention MLK and the Holocaust.Again, it's absurd to think that omitting MLK is due to liberal bias. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 13:05:40 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 12:56:05 2014. Nope ... it was deliberate. Read ...http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/jun/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/ |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 28 13:06:28 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:42:15 2014. It's liberal in that it makes textbooks more politically correct than historically accurate.Pulling an Olog now? Define "liberal." |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 28 13:07:51 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 13:03:18 2014. Again, it's absurd to think that omitting MLK is due to liberal bias.Especially when you consider that MLK and the Holocaust are amazingly inconvenient to conservatives but vindicate liberals. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 13:14:20 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Nilet on Sun Sep 28 13:06:28 2014. What's even funnier is that the ones messing with those textbooks are the bored again kris-cheens in his very own state. And they've been at it ever since Ronnie was breach-birthed by the gee-oh-pee. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 13:38:38 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 13:14:20 2014. You're talking about Texas textbooks. Dave is saying textbooks but the article he referred to isn't actually about textbooks. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 13:51:37 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 11:09:11 2014. especailly in texassssIAWTP |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 14:51:56 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 13:38:38 2014. The biggest problem is that those texas text books become national textbooks. It texas wants yo graduate record number of illiterates, they are free to do so. When a NY student gets fed the same les I get pissed. Texas has NO right to expert ignorance. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 15:22:19 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 14:51:56 2014. IAWTPespecially from texasss |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 15:32:49 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 12:18:34 2014. Fortunately there's less of these idjits than there were a few years ago. IIRC there's just 5 or 6 of these Religious Righties on the SBOE now. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 15:34:11 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 15:32:49 2014. One is too many. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 15:35:02 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 14:51:56 2014. Okay then, we we need an example of ignorance you are the expert we we will look for your picture on Wikipedia. A picture of an ignoramus. Gotcha, thanks. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 17:57:14 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 15:35:02 2014. Didn't you read the article Selkirk linked to? There's PLENTY of examples of texas stupid within. For example:As the board became a national story and a national embarrassment, the state legislature attempted to put a lid on the chaos in 1995 by restricting the board’s oversight to “factual errors.” This made surprisingly little impact when you had a group of deciders who believed that the theory of evolution, global warming, and separation of church and state are all basically errors of fact. Don McLeroy, the board chairman who had opined that “evolution is hooey,” told Washington Monthly that he felt the changes put Texas “light years ahead of any other state when it comes to challenging evolution!” Read it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 18:18:21 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 13:38:38 2014. Textbooks these days are written for all school districts in all states now. It's a revenue thing since more modern states are just handing out school ipads with electronic versions. In order to sell textbooks in Texas, those textbooks sold elsewhere generally meet the Texas standards.Texas' Education department sets the specs since they're now the largest single buyer of paper educational materials. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 18:21:10 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 13:38:38 2014. And yes, I agree. It's about the content and what ends up IN the textbooks. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 18:25:11 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 15:32:49 2014. I think a little more tension on that ejection spring might be in order. :)One of the things about textbooks though is that revisions to them can be years apart. So whatever damage was done is probably still waiting to be printed. But I just wanted to explain that it's not "liberalism" that was behind much of that, it was actually crazies on the other side. Revisionism has only gotten easier since the intertubes came along. :( |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 18:26:17 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 28 13:38:38 2014. Yep. The article Dave linked is about how texas schools are graduating functional illiterates, unable to function at college or in the workplace. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 19:05:00 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 18:26:17 2014. IAWTP !!typical texasssss |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 19:24:36 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 18:18:21 2014. that really sucks !i learned more in a library than in any school |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Sep 28 20:33:46 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:43:17 2014. We should return shitstain TexASS to its RIGHTFUL owner. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 21:37:39 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 17:57:14 2014. You clearly have reading comprehension difficulties. Go back and read my OP on the thread. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 21:38:12 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 19:24:36 2014. Yes, it really shows.... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 21:40:00 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 21:38:12 2014. school does not teach you anything with books from texasssss |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 21:41:14 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 21:40:00 2014. We can see what a fine job the California education system did with you. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 21:41:43 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 18:26:17 2014. Is that a fact? Why don't you show us exactly the article I linked to? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 21:59:05 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 21:41:14 2014. i did fine thank you in spite of the texassss books |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 23:59:33 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Sep 28 19:24:36 2014. Schools are helpful, but the minute you walk out the door, you're not done. You have to keep educating yourself or you fall WAY behind fast. I left school knowing how to mix chemicals and make lightbulbs light and induction motors spin, as well as how to design TV sets with tubes and transistors. Just a couple of years later, everything I knew was useless.Just one year out of school, I took correspondence courses in integrated circuits and broadcast equipment. Sadly, what they were teaching was even older and more busted than what I learned when I was in school. But I got my first FCC license out of the deal. From there, I made it a point to always be inquisitive. Anything that was new and upcoming was something that I embraced on my own. I wanted to know everything that made it tick, and everything that would stop it from ticking. All of it independent study when I saw something interesting that could be the "next big thing." Learned high power transmitters, communications, fiber optics, computers, programming, satellite, you name it. You can NEVER stop learning or you'll fall behind fast. I'm still seeking out the new, that's why I'm real happy in what I'm doing right now as well. And as always, right on the leading edge of tech. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 29 00:11:36 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 21:41:14 2014. Ummm ... he's not originally FROM California. Not many are. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 29 00:33:43 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 11:52:45 2014. Rodney Dangerfield and Steve Irwin were that important? :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 29 00:37:55 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 29 00:33:43 2014. I think the Duck Dynasty dewd is in there somewhere too. Welcome to republican religionism on Shark Week. :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Sep 29 04:22:47 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 28 11:52:45 2014. IAWTPTexasssss ! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 29 11:23:49 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 28 13:05:40 2014. I just knew that "Baby Bear" was a subtle reference to Marxism! :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 29 12:41:14 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 29 11:23:49 2014. Everything commie! :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 29 17:22:03 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 28 11:42:15 2014. More than a dozen professors from Texas colleges and universities volunteered to take part in reviewing texts this past summer. Almost all were turned down. Why?Liberals? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 29 18:06:49 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 29 17:22:03 2014. Yep ... guaranteed to erode the "truthiness" of the conservative cause. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 29 18:29:52 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 29 17:22:03 2014. Qualified to issue an informed opinion, more likely. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 29 18:32:29 2014, in response to Re: Texas' Rising Graduation Rates Spark Renewed Doubts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 29 00:11:36 2014. Salaam graduated from high school in CA. |
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