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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 8 10:36:40 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by mqones on Sun Jun 8 04:08:52 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d WTF? Rumsfeld hasn't been the SecDef for over 7 years.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 8 10:39:38 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jun 8 06:03:13 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d You're not thinking too creatively. The solution is to expose them to radiation at the time of their release. At first they'll be happy they're released, and then in a few days they'll die miserably.
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Re: Politician Does Political Thing; More Politicians Bluster
Posted by Nilet on Sun Jun 8 12:30:18 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 8 10:39:38 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Here's a better idea: How about we leave Afghanistan and take all the troops home where they can't be kidnapped by the Taliban and then stop imprisoning and killing innocent people?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 8 13:29:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jun 8 06:03:13 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Iranians are not Arabs.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 8 13:31:45 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jun 8 06:03:13 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Afghans are also not Arabs.
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Re: Man Does Thing; Other Men Threaten To Do Things
Posted by Nilet* on Sun Jun 8 13:40:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jun 8 06:03:13 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Arabs understand and respect one thing - force. Racism much? If I was in charge (and Thank God I'm not) You got that right. I put cameras down in Gitmo, round up 100 prisoners and surround them with soliders holding M-16's, and make the following announcement: You have 24 hours to release the soldier. Every minute over 24 hours will result in another prisoner being shot in the head at close range, on live television. You'll see the soldier being released in short order. Yeah, no. How do you know they won't take the "we don't negotiate with terrorists" approach? After all, live TV closeups of Americans murdering innocent people simply because they happen to be roughly the same race/ethnicity/nationality/religion as a person they've declared an enemy is a perfect recruiting ad for their cause.
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Re: Politician Does Political Thing; More Politicians Bluster
Posted by Mitch45* on Sun Jun 8 14:12:45 2014, in response to Re: Politician Does Political Thing; More Politicians Bluster, posted by Nilet on Sun Jun 8 12:30:18 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d We tried that. We got 9/11. If we don't bring the war to them, they will bring it to us.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Dave* on Sun Jun 8 18:53:29 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 8 10:36:40 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Stop confusing the issue with fact.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jun 9 23:28:27 2014, in response to Re: Politician Does Political Thing; More Politicians Bluster, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jun 8 14:12:45 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d pwn3d.
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Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jun 9 23:31:08 2014, in response to Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Jun 1 20:12:49 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Associated Press House panel to investigate prisoner swap By Donna Cassata and Bradley Klapper June 9, 2014 9:59 PM EDT The House Armed Services Committee will investigate the Obama administration's swap of an American prisoner held for five years for five Taliban leaders that caused a political firestorm over the lack of congressional notification and fears the high-level Taliban could return to the Afghanistan battlefield. "We ought to look at the price," Rep. Howard "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., chairman of the panel, told reporters after administration officials held a tense 90-minute, closed-door briefing for House Democrats and Republicans. Officials from the White House, State and Defense departments and the intelligence community defended the exchange of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was captured in June 2009 in Afghanistan after he disappeared from his infantry unit, for five Taliban militants from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. In the week since the deal, lawmakers have raised questions about whether Bergdahl was a deserter and whether the United States gave up too much for his freedom. Republicans emerged from the Monday night session incensed that 80 to 90 people in the government knew about Bergdahl's release ahead of time and not one member of Congress got a head's up, including leaders of the national security committees. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., criticized the administration for not presenting any classified information. The U.S. officials said neither the U.S. nor Qatar provided any money to the Taliban as part of the deal, according to Bachmann. The administration pledged to look into how many American or allied servicemen might have died in efforts to capture the five Taliban prisoners and how many people the ex-Afghan government officials were responsible for killing, she said. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., said President Barack Obama is "not going to get away with this one," and described it as an "arrogant thumbing of his nose by the president of the United States at the Congress of the United States. … This is going to cost American lives." Lawmakers said they were shocked to hear Deputy National Security Adviser Tony Blinken say that eight congressional committees had been briefed this past February on the deal. Congressional staffers insist those briefings never occurred. Obama has defended the exchange and administration officials have argued that the government needed to move expeditiously due to Bergdahl's health. Officials also have said that any leak of information about the deal could have posed a threat to Bergdahl's life. To reinforce its case, administration officials showed the 90-second "proof of life" video from December that showed a debilitated Bergdahl. Rep. Greg Walden, R-Ore., said Bergdahl looked bad in the video. Rep. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said Bergdahl looked "unhealthy but didn't appear to be on his deathbed." But all the Republican criticism angered Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill. "I am so grateful to the people who were up there that we didn't leave someone on the battlefield," she told reporters. "And now, they would demonize this individual and find technical reasons why they're bad that we brought the soldier home?" Beyond securing Bergdahl's release, she said, "the rest is extraneous." The prisoners, she added, were former Afghan government officials who've never been charged with any acts of wrongdoing by the United States. Schakowsky also compared the five-to-one swap favorably with prisoner exchanges by Israel, which has sometimes released more than 1,000 Palestinians to secure the return of one soldier. "I find it absolutely unacceptable that we're hearing these kinds of attacks on this administration for bringing someone home," she said. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel will testify on Wednesday before the Armed Services Committee. McKeon said additional hearings and briefings are planned as part of the panel's investigation.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 04:04:28 2014, in response to Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 9 23:31:08 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d I kind of understand the need to get Bergdahl back. And even though it "puts a price on the head of every American soldier", it also confirms that the life of a Taliban is worth much less than that of an America. They're 1/5 of a man. Not even in 1/5 in my opinion.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 10 04:18:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 04:04:28 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d The most saddening thing I've heard is these right wing ASSHOLES demanding that we not bring an AMERICAN soldier home in the first place. This really ramped up my disgust of RW swine. :(
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 10 04:35:33 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 10 04:18:23 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Awwww poor baby.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 10 04:39:43 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 10 04:35:33 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Yeah, fuck those soldiers ... good little republican. :(
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 04:49:04 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 04:04:28 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d No, it's absurd as the swaps that have gone on between the IDF and the "Palestinian" terrorists. Worse in many ways in spite of the numbers.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 04:52:08 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 04:49:04 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d There are pros and cons. I believe this guy was a deserter but he's still a US soldier and getting him back makes sense in ways.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 04:59:41 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 04:52:08 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d How about an old-fashioned rescue mission? That would have worked far better.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 05:13:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 04:59:41 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d I won't be fighting with you tonight. Not really fighting with anyone.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 10 05:15:49 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 04:59:41 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Here's the keys to the copter ... go get 'em, Pontiac ...
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 06:16:39 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 05:13:25 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d That's OK. Obama isn't fighting either; he's capitulating. And that's far more detrimental to the world at large, even.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 06:30:50 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 06:16:39 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d You w1n most threads so I won't be battling you. I'll probably lose. Honestly, if we did not trade him, who knows what they would have done to him on youtube? They probably have all kinds of video of the torture sessions too. Would be embarrassing.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 07:09:55 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 10 06:30:50 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d So rescue missions are still out of the question?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 10 08:10:09 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 10 07:09:55 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d We tried it initially and there was loss of life. Are you advocating risking American lives to rescue him versus the horsetrading that went on?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 10 08:13:15 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 10 08:10:09 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Because you know if there were any lives lost in the rescue mission the House would be investigating it
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 10 09:23:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 10 04:39:43 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d My country used to execute deserters, now we worship them.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 10 09:36:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 10 09:23:22 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d That platoon was a microcosim of how fucked up Afghanistan was being handled mid-decade, pre surge. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/us/us-soldier-bowe-bergdahl-case-highlights-a-unit-known-for-troubles.html?_r=0
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 10 09:40:19 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 10 09:36:13 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Let's let him get his day in court.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 10 13:20:21 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 10 08:13:15 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d +100
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 10 17:29:24 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; House Armed Services Committee investigating deal, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 10 09:23:22 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d But you have no problem with ANOTHER country doing it? :-\
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