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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 5 22:30:06 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 5 22:27:08 2014. You realize that the owners suffer...so does the workers. No one works at a closed diner. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 5 22:35:57 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 5 21:56:40 2014. Haha, I hate growing stuff for them to eat.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 5 22:35:59 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 5 22:30:06 2014. Of course ... but back in the day (and this was the case for us too when business was slow for us) the owner would do without and tighten their own belt to ensure that their employees were at least taken care of in slow times. That's not the mindset anymore. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 5 22:37:16 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 5 22:35:57 2014. They're lousy tippers too. :) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 04:26:40 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 5 22:35:59 2014. Again....what good is it if the owner is not doing well? No one lakes money at a closed business |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 04:41:28 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 04:26:40 2014. The failure rate of restaurants is somewhere on the order of about 80%. They close primarily because the owners couldn't handle the business they were in. A lot of folks fantasize about owning a restaurant or bar and they fail. So that statistic being thrown around is spurious.Let's talk about the ones packing them in ... they pay wait staff on the order of $2 an hour to maybe as much as $5. Those folks are NOT their "cost center" since they have to live off tips. Rest assured that those restaurants could easily afford to raise their prices by a buck or two given how many tables wait staff and kitchen handles in that hour, and it won't stop you from going. A price of $22 for a meal vs $24 is no big deal. But I love how the "minimum wage" keeps coming back to restaurants when there's many other jobs that pay that shitty with far better profit margins. That's what keeps bringing me back to my point of if the economy is SO endangered by a couple of bucks, then be a bro and talk to your boss about a salary cut. It's good for America! :) Henry Ford proved back in the gilded age that if you paid your folks better, you got better work, employees who GAVE a shit and a booming America. This whole "kick the poor" mentality of your politics is the REASON why America is in the dumper now. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 6 05:29:02 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 5 22:16:21 2014. Most diners are going out of business as it isEven with full parking lots and patronage up? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 05:51:32 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 6 05:29:02 2014. Even with full parking lots and patronage up?Yes. Rent and other expenses make it tough to stay in business. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 05:52:32 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 6 05:29:02 2014. You another Turtle? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 05:55:33 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 05:52:32 2014. I always felt RIPTA42 was the most loathsome person here. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 6 07:31:24 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 6 05:29:02 2014. It's not really the diners with the full parking lots. It's places like Applebees, TGI Fridays, etc. I went to a ducks game last night and we went to Applebees afterwards for a snack, and there was a wait for tables at 11:00 at night, and the bar was standing room only. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 09:59:11 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 4 20:08:49 2014. WABB! First of all, the pension plan is not predicated on union membership nor was my pension negotiated by unions. Second, I was a member of 2 unions in my former employment. Say what now, bingy? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 10:06:45 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 5 18:50:52 2014. As I have said before, the only thing you think you know about me came from a former employee whose downward slide came after he was suspended for racial and sexual harassment because he made improper comments towards a black female co-worker. That you considered him a good friend could be a strong indicator as to your racial and sexual feelings. Guilt by association. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 6 10:07:22 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 05:55:33 2014. Because he always introduces facts that destroy conservative talking points. You're not about facts, you're about gut feelings. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 10:07:28 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 17:01:06 2014. Where did you ever get the idea that I am anti-union? I have been a member of 4 different unions in my life and now maintain a "relationship" with one. Perhaps you can offer PROOF to back up your claim. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 10:31:43 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 10:07:28 2014. You support conservative policies and Republican candidates.That you have a "relationship" with a union sounds strikingly similar to a racist banging on about his black best friend. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 10:36:25 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 10:07:28 2014. Far leftsists believe anyone to the right of them are the typical leftist stereotype of those on the right which would be every extremist idea like being non union etc. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 10:38:30 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 10:36:25 2014. Which far leftists are you talking about? They're kind of a rarity; I've never actually met any and probably couldn't even name any. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 10:43:37 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 10:38:30 2014. Look in the mirror and hope it won't crack. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 10:57:15 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 10:43:37 2014. Which policies do I support that you consider "far left?" Because that's a question you've failed to answer before. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 6 14:34:41 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 05:55:33 2014. I always felt RIPTA42 was the most loathsome person here.Hooray! I've spent the last thirteen and a half years in pursuit of that title. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 6 14:35:45 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 6 07:31:24 2014. It's not really the diners with the full parking lots. It's places like Applebees, TGI Fridays, etc. I went to a ducks game last night and we went to Applebees afterwards for a snack, and there was a wait for tables at 11:00 at night, and the bar was standing room only.Is there a disparity in how minimum wage laws are affecting diners versus sit-down chain restaurants, or are the hurting diner owners just a non-sequitur to the discussion? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 14:39:34 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 6 14:35:45 2014. The $15 minimum wage is not in effect so how would it hurt restaurant now? As for diners doing poorly vs "Applebee's", etc is another topic all together. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 15:23:56 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 10:57:15 2014. Well, for starters, you support abortion.You want to see GITMO closed too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 6 15:50:04 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 15:23:56 2014. How are either of those things "far left?" |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 6 16:08:06 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 15:23:56 2014. Reproductive rights are human rights. It's only the RW that despises human rights. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 16:13:10 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jun 6 10:36:25 2014. And this one thinks that Lenin, Stalin and Mao are to his right. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 16:38:36 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 10:06:45 2014. Keep telling yourself that. He wasn't the only one who told us about your "management style", the same "management style" you display right here every time you come to visit. But sure ... if doing that makes you feel better about the philosophies you embrace, it certainly fits. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 16:56:02 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 6 16:08:06 2014. Ok.So Nilet is to the left on this issue. Guess I am too. Did you weight in this morning? You lost 35 pounds. I figure you were as heavy as 210. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 6 16:58:14 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jun 4 19:03:32 2014. There is an aspect of handout in that management and unions have agreed to undervalue the pension benefits by using very high discount rates when valuing them. Whether that was collusion or simple stupidity is not clear to anyone. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 6 17:01:19 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 16:56:02 2014. Never anywhere near that. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:04:49 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 10:31:43 2014. My political leanings are not proof of an anti-union stance. I'll give you one more chance to prove your claim. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:09:54 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 16:38:36 2014. "US"! Who is us? So far neither you nor your lying friend have been willing to name a source for your fictions. Prove me a liar and nome your sources - PUSSY! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 17:10:34 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 6 17:01:19 2014. I bet you're hot now. Post pix. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 17:13:05 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:04:49 2014. You can give him as many chances as he has cells in his body. But he seems to be not sane enough to comprehend you. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:13:17 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 6 16:08:06 2014. Actually its the LW that enjoys seeing human misery. They are the ones who enjoy seeing impoverished people enslaved to the mercies of government handouts. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 17:15:00 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:13:17 2014. Actually its the LW that enjoys seeing human miseryAnd especially causing it. Well over 100 million dead and counting.  |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 6 17:20:00 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 17:10:34 2014. Mybe in a few weeks. Not now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 17:25:16 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:09:54 2014. See? There you go again showing off that same style that made you famous once again ... and the "PUSSY!" at the end really motivates me. :)Here ... you know what to do. 
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:29:28 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 17:25:16 2014. Where are your sources, PUSSY?Back up your claims. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jun 6 17:32:27 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 17:25:16 2014. man ! right wingers are quick to get MAD SelkirkTMO !lol |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 17:37:48 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jun 6 17:32:27 2014. Much to my amusement. Best part is that they just keep coming back for more! :)
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 6 17:39:15 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:29:28 2014. pwn3d. :) |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jun 6 17:52:16 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:13:17 2014. "They are the ones who enjoy seeing impoverished people enslaved to the mercies of government handouts. "After reading about HBD, I don't know if you would maintain that same conclusion. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 18:36:44 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 6 15:23:56 2014. So you consider the right to bodily autonomy to be "far left." You also consider freedom from arbitrary imprisonment and torture to be "far left."I'll tell Olog. He was saying something funny about that. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 18:36:46 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 6 17:13:17 2014. ...says the person living on government handouts. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 18:36:47 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 17:15:00 2014. 100 million dead?Citation very much needed. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 18:36:49 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jun 6 17:52:16 2014. HBD? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 18:36:51 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 16:13:10 2014. OK, back to basics.Define "liberal." Define "conservative." Or shut up. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 18:36:53 2014, in response to Re: $15 minimum wage permits few luxuries in US cities, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 6 17:13:05 2014. OK, back to basics.Define "liberal." Define "conservative." Or shut up. |
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