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Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 22 19:44:00 2014, in response to Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 22 15:45:59 2014. Lol!!!!! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 22 19:44:49 2014, in response to Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 22 14:44:13 2014. You are one of the biggest "hate speakers here". |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Apr 22 19:59:44 2014, in response to Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 22 19:44:49 2014. lmao |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 22 21:28:11 2014, in response to Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 22 14:00:12 2014. They were only human. Owned slaves, drank, gambled, whatever. They did great things too but still, not saints. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 22 23:20:33 2014, in response to Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 22 17:01:29 2014. Nope. If you did you'd know how wrong the RW is. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 22 23:22:27 2014, in response to Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 22 18:50:27 2014. It is what it is. No room for denial. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 22 23:25:08 2014, in response to Re: From Greatness to Whiteness Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 22 19:44:49 2014. When did I ever speak of anything beyond full inclusion and expanded rights for all Americans? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 23 13:56:17 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. Today's show during "Male/Female Hour"."Everyone is worried about language that offends women. No one is worried about language that offends men". |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Apr 23 14:03:24 2014, in response to Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 23 13:56:17 2014. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 23 14:49:22 2014, in response to Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 23 13:56:17 2014. Why do women have language that is unique to offending them? That's schismatic. |
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What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by DaND124 on Tue Apr 29 10:34:03 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/04/29/what-have-you-said-in-private-n1830677A private recording of racist remarks by the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, Donald Sterling, in a telephone conversation was released last week. Among other comments, Sterling said to his former mistress, a black Mexican woman known as V. Stiviano: "It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to? ... You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games. I'm just saying, in your lousy f---ing Instagrams, you don't have to have yourself with, walking with black people. ... Don't put him [Magic] on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don't bring him to my games." That these comments are racist and therefore contemptible goes without saying. But the incident raises other issues that are not as clear as the racism in Sterling's comments, yet they are at least as important. One is the increasing release -- and acceptability -- of private recordings and videos. Take the video released last month of a married congressman engaged in a passionate kiss with a married member of his staff. This was a security surveillance video. Isn't the only reason for the very existence of surveillance cameras to catch criminals? Why didn't the release of such a video shock the media and the country? I have consistently defended these ubiquitous video cameras against those who argue that they violate our privacy. I am convinced that they are indispensable to apprehending violent criminals, as they were in the case of the Boston Marathon terrorists. But, I have repeatedly added, if these cameras are ever used for personal or political reasons to ruin people's lives or careers, the perpetrators of the release must be punished severely, including prison terms. And if this abuse becomes widespread, the cameras must be taken down. The fact that whoever released the surveillance video of the congressman has not been apprehended is a threat to us all. Yet this aspect of the incident has not even been discussed. All we heard was gloating over catching a conservative congressman in an act of infidelity. Similarly, recordings of private speech must also remain private unless they pose a danger to others. When the media report private conversations that pose no threat of violence, they encourage more and more people to record and release private conversations. That, far more than the NSA trolling of billions of phone calls in order to identify terrorists, poses a real threat to privacy. Where are the civil liberties groups and libertarians on this issue? Now, the second issue: How important to the public are the private remarks of public individuals? On July 18, 2000, I wrote an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal titled: "Hillary Isn't an Anti-Semite." It was a response to a book titled "State of a Union" by Jerry Oppenheimer, in which the author claimed that Clinton had called the Jewish manager of husband Bill's failed 1974 Congressional campaign, a "Jew bastard." "I wish to defend Hillary Clinton," I wrote, "against the charge of anti-Semitism. I do so as a practicing Jew and a Republican. ... We must cease this moral idiocy of judging and labeling people by stray private comments. As David McCullough's biography of Harry Truman revealed, one of the most courageous friends American Jews and blacks ever had in the White House frequently used 'kike' and 'nigger' in private. He even wrote them down: In a letter home from New York, Mr. Truman described the city as 'kiketown.' Was this unfortunate? Yes. Important? No. Defining of the man? Absolutely not. "I am repulsed by the loose talk about Mrs. Clinton's long-ago utterance. If that renders her an anti-Semite, then virtually every Gentile is anti-Semitic and almost every Jew is an anti-Gentile bigot. "It is highly misleading to probe private comments for evidence of anti-Semitism, racism, bigotry and sexism. The present trend emanates largely from a lethal combination -- the totalitarian temptation inherent in contemporary liberalism and the media's sensationalism." It may well matter to God what people say in private. But what should matter to us is what people say in public and how people act -- whether in private or public. Now, as it happens, Sterling does seem to have behaved in a racist manner in the past. And these actions do matter in assessing Donald Sterling. It is worth noting, however, that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People apparently felt that all the previous charges of racist conduct meant nothing. It was scheduled to award Sterling a lifetime achievement award at its upcoming Los Angeles gala in two weeks. Yes, the private remarks attributed to Sterling are racist and awful. But the growing acceptance of leaks of people's private non-criminal behaviors and comments -- and the consequent judgment of these people -- will ultimately injure society far more than who owns the Los Angeles Clippers. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 29 11:14:01 2014, in response to What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DaND124 on Tue Apr 29 10:34:03 2014. Not deep thinking, but at least not stupid for a change. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 11:58:36 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 29 11:14:01 2014. Dennis Prager is never stupid. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:07:22 2014, in response to What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DaND124 on Tue Apr 29 10:34:03 2014. Yup. He said the same on his radio show yesterday.Glad you find it informative. It seems Sterling is bothered by the fact that this black girlfriend of his is advertising that she is available for interracial hookups(even though she's black it's not really interracial but she's still cuckolding her white boyfriend which makes it an IR affair). Magic Johnson has AIDS. I'm sure he still fucks a lot of women. Just use a rubber. Sterling does not want to be a laughingstock for being the boyfriend of one of Johnson's fucks. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:12:44 2014, in response to What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DaND124 on Tue Apr 29 10:34:03 2014. Segment 1: Prager is talking about this column. Making the point that Americans are upset about the NSA spying but applaud a girlfriend making public a private phone call. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 12:15:11 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 11:58:36 2014. This is the first instance where he isn't completely wrong. Amazing, we hit hit the broken-clock-time. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:17:13 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:12:44 2014. Prager just said if Sterling was an active Republican and Christian it would be central to the criticism.He's so right. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 12:22:20 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:12:44 2014. If she is one of the parties to the conversation, it's completely legal. OTOH, the government is not likely one of the parties in the conversations that the NSA is listening, recording, etc. that makes a world of difference. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 29 12:24:45 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:12:44 2014. Making the point that Americans are upset about the NSA spying but applaud a girlfriend making public a private phone call.You can't control the behavior of individuals. You can control the behavior of your government. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:56:52 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 29 12:24:45 2014. You can't control the behavior of individuals. You can control the behavior of your government.Outrage should be equal. NY Times ranted against NSA spying. But they love the betrayal of a girlfriend releasing a private conversation. So you went to mass on Sunday? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:59:36 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 12:22:20 2014. Really? Selkirk can record something you say and post it on the internet? You would not feel betrayed? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 29 13:14:54 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:56:52 2014. Outrage should be equal.If I knew someone posted private conversations on the internet I would not hire them to do work for me. But I can't fire my government from being the contractor who provides me with certain services. I can only tell it I'm not happy with its actions and if they keep it up I'll try to get new managers appointed. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 13:27:53 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:56:52 2014. There is nothing in the law to stop a golddigger from going to the press saying "look what he said to me". That fuels the gossip/paparazzi biz. Next time, pick a better girlfriend, chump. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 13:31:54 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 12:59:36 2014. Yep. Thing is, I know he wouldn't do anything of the sort. Whatshisname there is an example of a poor choice in girlfriends. He did it to himself, and it appears he has quite a little history of run ins related to bigotry. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Apr 29 13:41:49 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 13:27:53 2014. IAWTP. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 13:42:31 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 29 13:14:54 2014. But the idea that privately taped conversations should be broadcast to the world should still outrage people. In this case it doesn't. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 13:53:16 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 29 13:42:31 2014. Fact is, this is perfectly legal. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:12:17 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 12:22:20 2014. Completely legal? LOL! It varies by state! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:13:48 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 13:53:16 2014. Proff? And even it is, it's only because you got lucky. I doubt you know for sure which state both parties were in. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:14:19 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 29 13:41:49 2014. Really? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 14:18:48 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:12:17 2014. It is in NY, CA and most others. If it's legal in the state where reported, no issues. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:31:25 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 14:18:48 2014. OBVIOUSLY ***IF*** it's legal, then it is legal. But YOU stated conclusively that it was legal without knowing which states are involved here. Do you had no business stating that it was legal. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 14:36:38 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:31:25 2014. It's obvious it's California, where this is legal. Why are you harping on this stupid little point? Doesn't change thing one. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:40:03 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 14:36:38 2014. Why is it obvious?And I can change thing one whenever I want. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 14:45:22 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 14:40:03 2014. Bcause both the parties involved in the recorded phone call and TMZ are in California. If you don't know that, then you ought to leave your bunker and reenter the real world for a change.You can't change that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 29 16:18:15 2014, in response to Re: What Have You Said in Private? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 29 14:45:22 2014. Again, how do you know what state both parties were in? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 30 13:08:06 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. Prager tearing it up about voter ID. W1nning big time.Really good episode. Hope you get to enjoy it on your local AMerican Prager affiliate. Male/Female hour about to begin. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 30 14:13:00 2014, in response to Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 30 13:08:06 2014. The only thing in need of tearing up are those repressive voter ID laws. All this energy over what is isolated incidences that current law could address. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 1 14:11:03 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. Everyone who posts on OTChat should read this book based on what Prager and his guests, the authors, said.They talk a lot about Jewish success, Asian-American success, etc...... |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 1 14:38:26 2014, in response to Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 1 14:11:03 2014. I finally listenend to Prager. I agree with many things he says, but very boring. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 1 14:48:30 2014, in response to Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 1 14:38:26 2014. "Boring"? He's one of the most important thinkers in America today.He's going over Benghazi right now. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 6 05:13:59 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. I have been told by radio hosts Dennis Prager and Hugh Hewitt that this movie is a must see.So I will go to a local movie theater to see it on Tuesday night. link |
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The Oklahoma Heart Vs. the Abolitionist Heart Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by DaND124 on Tue May 6 08:52:46 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/05/06/the-oklahoma-heart-vs-the-abolitionist-heart-n1833902Last week, Oklahoma authorities botched the execution of a murderer named Clayton Lockett. The execution by lethal injection took more than 40 minutes. According to witnesses, he twitched and gasped and said, "oh, man" after officials had thought he was unconscious. Opponents of the death penalty outdid one another in expressing their outrage. It was the left's hysteria-of-the-week. In contrast, many Oklahomans were not nearly as upset. "Who cares if he feels pain," stylist April Sewell, at Hair Naturally in Perry told Oklahoma TV station KFOR. "You know, honestly, he's getting away a lot easier than how his victim did, how Stephanie did." Marilee Macias, owner of the town's popular diner, Kumback Lunch, told KFOR, "What that guy got, he deserved." Tiajuana Hammock, a friend of the family of Lockett's murder victim, Stephanie Neiman, told the station: "I have no sympathy at all. None whatsoever. Stephanie was beat up; she was shot; she was thrown in a grave when she was still alive. His little 30 minutes of lying there in anguish, if he was even feeling any anguish for 30 minutes, does not compare at all to anything Stephanie went through, or her family." Bobby Lee Bornt, the man who was tied up and beaten by Lockett and his accomplices, said he was tired of all the talk about Lockett's rights. "Everything that's been talked about is them, what they feel, and no one's mentioned what Stephanie's family feels and Summer and her family and what it's done to them or me and my family," Bornt said. "We live with this every single day and it, it'll honestly tear you apart." This reaction is not confined to Oklahomans who live in Perry. Mike Christian, a Republican Congressman from Oklahoma, wasn't all that perturbed by Lockett's execution, either. He just wanted Lockett dead. "I realize this may sound harsh," the congressman said, "but as a father and former lawman, I really don't care if it's by lethal injection, by the electric chair, firing squad, hanging, the guillotine or being fed to the lions." Nor is this reaction confined to Oklahoma. The Los Angeles Times reports that "[t]he reaction so far by readers who have sent us letters? Big deal -- the man who shot and buried his victim alive 15 years ago had it coming." On the other side are the abolitionists. The Los Angeles Times reporter notes that, unlike many of his newspapers' readers, he opposes capital punishment: "A government execution of anyone -- even a brutal murderer -- is an immoral, barbaric act, no matter how you do it." He doesn't explain why it is "barbaric." In fact, in a lifetime of debating opponents of capital punishment, I have never heard one explanation as to why killing a murderer such as Lockett is "barbaric." They all merely assert it. So does another proponent of keeping all murderers alive, Jeffrey Toobin, legal analyst for CNN and The New Yorker. He writes in The New Yorker: "The oxymoronic quest for humane executions only accentuates the absurdity of allowing the death penalty in a civilized society." Again, not a word explaining why putting murderer/torturers like Lockett to death is an "absurdity." He just asserts it. As for "oxymoronic," this is what's oxymoronic: the proposition that keeping people like Lockett alive is just. Anti-death penalty activists are preoccupied with whatever suffering Lockett endured for about a half hour. Pro-death penalty people are preoccupied with what Lockett's victims endured. For the record, here is what Clayton Lockett did on June 3, 1999: Clayton Lockett, 23, Shawn Mathis, 26, and Alfonzo Lockett, 17, planned on robbing Bobby Lee Bornt, 23, at his house in Perry, Oklahoma. They tied up Bornt and beat him in front of the man's sobbing 9-month-old son. At the same time, Stephanie Neiman, 18, was dropping off her friend Summer Bradshaw at Bornt's home. All three robbers raped the two girls, and then drove the girls, Bornt and his baby son to a rural area. They forced Mathis to dig a grave over which Lockett shot Stephanie Neiman twice. Unfortunately, she did not die from the gunshot wounds, and so she cried and begged not to be buried alive. But Clayton Lockett ordered her buried. "I could hear her breathing and crying and everything," Lockett said nonchalantly in his videotaped confession. The cold hearts of the abolitionists are matched only by their mendacity. They and their European allies are the one's ultimately responsible for the botched execution. First, they force executions by lethal injection, and then they make it all but impossible to legally obtain the drugs necessary for such executions. In virtually every account of the execution I have read, just one sentence is devoted to what Clayton Lockett did to Stephanie Neiman. And in his New York Times column, Charles M. Blow directs his fury not at Lockett -- about whom all he could say is, "Lockett was no angel" -- but for supporters of the death penalty. Perhaps this near-ignoring of what happened to Stephanie Neiman, and other murder victims and their families, helps explain how people like Toobin, Blow, and the ACLU anti-capital punishment activists can live with themselves. So, in order to make that more difficult, I conclude with excerpts from the statement made by Stephanie's parents: "Every day we are left with horrific images of what the last hours of Stephanie's life was like. Did she cry out for us to help her? We are left with the knowledge that she needed us and we were not aware of it therefore unable [to] help her. "We go through the motions of living, we eat, we sleep, Steve [the father] goes to work and comes home again. We do what we have to do to make it through the day and we start all over again the next. We exist." Jeffrey Toobin and Charles "Lockett Was No Angel" Blow should read that statement. Not that it will matter, alas. In America today, it appears that the more passionate the opponents of capital punishment are, the colder their hearts. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 6 09:29:06 2014, in response to Irreplaceable (Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week), posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 6 05:13:59 2014. Do the words "Focus on the Family" mean anything to you? They should.This is religious RW propaganda. Save your money. Use the time to work out. |
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Re: The Oklahoma Heart Vs. the Abolitionist Heart Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 6 09:29:39 2014, in response to The Oklahoma Heart Vs. the Abolitionist Heart Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DaND124 on Tue May 6 08:52:46 2014. Hmm. I guess Prager wants to amend the Constitution to ban cruel and unusual punishment "except for really disgustingly vile criminals who deserve to be tortured to death."Also, who says that death penalty opponents are the ones insisting on lethal injection? I would think firing squad is much more humane. Has anyone ever not died instantly from an execution by firing squad? |
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Posted by Dave on Tue May 6 10:00:06 2014, in response to Re: The Oklahoma Heart Vs. the Abolitionist Heart Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue May 6 09:29:39 2014. Has anyone ever not died instantly from an execution by firing squad?Yes. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 6 22:17:14 2014, in response to Re: Irreplaceable (Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week), posted by bingbong on Tue May 6 09:29:06 2014. I just go back a few minutes ago. So glad I was Irreplaceable. Met some nice people from a nearby Baptist church too.No workout tonight, but I will resume tomorrow in hopes of achieving 17% body fat. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 6 23:06:45 2014, in response to Re: Irreplaceable (Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week), posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 6 22:17:14 2014. Such a shame that you waste your time on that propaganda. You may hit that 17%, but you won't have anything to offer someone because your mind is full of that propaganda and hatespeak. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 00:20:33 2014, in response to Re: Irreplaceable (Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week), posted by bingbong on Tue May 6 23:06:45 2014. It was a good night with good people.The Drop Box is their next documentary. It's about people abandoning babies in Korea. Thank God for Salem Broadcasting and Focus On The Family. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 7 00:41:21 2014, in response to Re: Irreplaceable (Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week), posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 00:20:33 2014. LOL! |
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