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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by WillD on Fri Apr 25 00:15:13 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:11:53 2014.

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Except that even the hour long drivel Olog has been flogging as "the truth" has his ignorantly racist remarks in it. It just so happens that a minute or so before extolling the virtues of slavery he says something vague about not wanting "them to go back to that point" without mentioning slavery. The only one twisting the Racist Rancher's words is Olog-Hai, in his desperation to prove the bigoted moocher is somehow a sympathetic character.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:15:40 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:10:23 2014.

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What was Reid brandishing? Colt or Smith & Wesson? :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:16:09 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:14:46 2014.

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Harry Reid's in the GOP? Musta missed that one.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 25 00:17:10 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:09:21 2014.

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His statement from his follow up news conference:

'I’m not saying that I thought they should be slaves. I’m not even saying they was better off,' Bundy said in his speech. 'I’m a wondering if they were better off?'

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:17:21 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:12:14 2014.

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Yeah, doing that does kinda form a sinkhole under that high moral ground. :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:18:16 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:14:11 2014.

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Have you ever read an entire Media Matters or New York Times article all the way to the end? Did ya kinda feel dirty after doing so? :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:18:27 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 25 00:17:10 2014.

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Where's the rest of the statement? Don't get all NYT-ish on us.

He's obviously wrong by assuming they had a normal family life under slavery. Slaveowners did not permit that.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:18:41 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:16:09 2014.

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Nice parry! :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:19:33 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by WillD on Fri Apr 25 00:15:13 2014.

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Oh I'm sure Olog's not alone in doing that ... after all, this is their collective last Custer here. :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:28:41 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:19:33 2014.

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FOX collapsed under its own weight. Gretchen Carlson shut down Paul Trippi when he brought it up. According to that article, FOX went 9 hours on Bundy blackout.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:35:10 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:28:41 2014.

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Aw geez ... you know what THAT means, right? More Benghazi. :-\



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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:41:57 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:35:10 2014.

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Well CNN's got flight 370...

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:42:31 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:28:41 2014.

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That's a surprise? This is George Soros' Fox News after all.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:44:17 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:35:10 2014.

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So you're OK with Chris Stevens still being unavenged. I see. (Makes you sound like, uh, Newser.)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:44:25 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:42:31 2014.

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Rupert Soros?

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:45:27 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:44:25 2014.

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No; George Ailes. My bad.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:48:53 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:45:27 2014.

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Roger. And Roger :)

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:49:39 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:41:57 2014.

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Really? Still? Just helps me not to miss cable all the more. :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:50:09 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 00:48:53 2014.

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No, it's "Roger and ME." Heh.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:59:41 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:44:17 2014.

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He was avenged, but not in the way you might have expected. The leader of the attack was known as Mohsen Al-Azazi his passport was found in the house of Khairat El-Shater. The police found Azizi’s passport in the house of leading MB strategist Khairat El-Shater, presumbably when Shater was arrested on July 5, 2013.

The other two were Safwat Hegazy and Mohammed El-Beltagy, all three engaged with an Al Qaeda splinter of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Mohammed Morsi refused to give them up. Guess what happened next?

Our spooks and our diplomacy don't work like a TV show. By the way, the three mentioned above are supposedly not with us any longer. Sometimes the best actions are taken quietly, without notifying FOX News.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 01:11:25 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:59:41 2014.

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No, that's not vengeance. It's vaguely poetic justice.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 01:13:24 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 01:11:25 2014.

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Well it will just have to do. W're America, not some primeval backwards country although lately we HAVE been trying to be. :(

Muslim Brotherhood GONE as a direct result of it once the ties to Morsi were established ... that's a "Mission Accomplished" even you can get into.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 25 01:22:57 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:00:43 2014.

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You do know who's running Canada right now, right? It ain't the Trudeau-ites.

Considering that it most likely isn't your idea of conservatives or centrists, it must be...leftists! :-)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 25 01:28:02 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Alleged Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:14:11 2014.

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The whole hour+7 minutes? No. Just a couple of minutes of before the comments in question, then the comments themselves. I figure that was enough context, considering much of the previous comments had little or nothing to do with what came after.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 01:28:14 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 25 01:22:57 2014.

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No . . . Stephen Harper did manage to get himself to the right of most Republicans. It's an effort for the guy (former Liberal), but he did it.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 01:28:59 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 25 01:22:57 2014.

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Even though Harper is a tory, and they're getting tired of him, he's STILL to the left of our most left-leaning politicos here. Even Bernie Sanders is to the right of Harper. Harper's just conservative based on where Canada is at. :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 01:30:10 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 01:28:14 2014.

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Hahahahahahahahaha!

Then you should definitely move up there and get you a taste of old Calgary. :)

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 25 01:38:33 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 01:28:14 2014.

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Considering that he's been known to push environmental issues, albeit watered down, I would say that's a big no.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 25 01:39:24 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 01:28:14 2014.

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Sorry, meant to say that's a big yes - he's your idea of a "leftist".

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-hai's Insanity Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 25 06:35:41 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:13:09 2014.

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The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.


U.S. Const. art. IV, § 3.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Dave on Fri Apr 25 07:25:07 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 25 00:06:04 2014.

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According to NBC news yesterday, many of his "followers" have abandoned him.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 08:40:27 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 25 00:50:09 2014.

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Pets or Meat :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-hai's Insanity Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 09:17:13 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-hai's Insanity Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 25 06:35:41 2014.

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Both the article's intent and Olog's insanity are über-obvious here.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Spider-Pig's Lack Of Reading Comprehension Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 09:30:14 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-hai's Insanity Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 25 06:35:41 2014.

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The BLM is not an agency of Congress.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-Hai's Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 09:38:43 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Spider-Pig's Lack Of Reading Comprehension Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 09:30:14 2014.

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They're part of the Dept. of Interior, subject to the laws that Congress makes.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 09:40:23 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Dave on Fri Apr 25 07:25:07 2014.

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NBC News, the most anti-Israel of them all.

So far, I've heard but two RINOs "abandoned" him—Rand himself and Dean Heller.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 09:47:01 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-Hai's Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 09:38:43 2014.

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BS. No executive department is subject to Congress; they're subject only to the President. Their actions speak for themselves.

Forgot that "pen and phone" bit, additionally?

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Spider-Pig's Lack Of Reading Comprehension Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 25 09:56:55 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Spider-Pig's Lack Of Reading Comprehension Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 09:30:14 2014.

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Congress has delegated to the President the administration of the lands it controls. That delegation has survived Supreme Court review.


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Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 25 10:07:43 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 00:13:09 2014.

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LOL!!! These were 19th century "spoils of war" that no one ever purchased or homesteaded. Bundy's parents purchased a parcel of land in 1949 built a ranch and started raising cattle on the land, eventually their business grew to the point where they paid grazing fees to use additional government land. Sixty years later, it all goes wrong.

A Las Vegas TV station reasearched it.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 10:09:51 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 09:47:01 2014.

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They still have to abide by the law tho. They just don't report to Congress on a daily basis.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of ________ Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 10:24:41 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Spider-Pig's Lack Of Reading Comprehension Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 25 09:56:55 2014.

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"Congress has delegated" is the excuse du jour? You mean the same way the Bundestag "delegated" to Adolf? Be very afraid, then, because you're excusing "L'État, C'est Moi".

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Re: Which Condemnation Of ________ Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 10:25:08 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Spider-Pig's Lack Of Reading Comprehension Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 25 09:56:55 2014.

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"Congress has delegated" is the excuse du jour? You mean the same way the Bundestag Reichstag "delegated" to Adolf? Be very afraid, then, because you're excusing "L'État, C'est Moi".

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 10:26:41 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 10:09:51 2014.

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They don't report to Congress at all. That's always been the practice of executive departments, other than submitting written reports to Congress.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-hai's Insanity Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 25 10:46:04 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Spider-Pig's Lack Of Reading Comprehension Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 09:30:14 2014.

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And? There is no requirement in that article that all US property be under the control of Congress directly, instead of a duly constituted executive agency like the Department of the Interior.

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 11:05:58 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 10:26:41 2014.

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We know that. They still have to abide by the laws that Congress makes tho.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-Hai's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 25 11:19:04 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 24 22:58:53 2014.

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That's more to the point now.

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To our Conservatives out there: Hero or racist?

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 25 11:22:07 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Harry Reid's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 24 22:58:53 2014.

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From CNN.COM:

Conservative hero is racist rancher? Didn't see that one coming

By Paul Begala
updated 9:49 AM EDT, Fri April 25, 2014

Editor's note: Paul Begala, a Democratic strategist and CNN political commentator, was a political consultant for Bill Clinton's presidential campaign in 1992 and was counselor to Clinton in the White House. He is a consultant to the pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.

(CNN) -- Well, that escalated quickly.

In fairness to my conservative friends, there's noooooo way they could have ever known that their newest hero, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, would let loose a racist rant. It was unimaginable, crazy. Who'd have thought?

Sure, he refused to recognize the legitimacy of the federal government, also known as the United States of America. But so did the secessionists of Lincoln's time, and they weren't racists. No, not at all.

They just believed that some people should own other people and that the determining factor in deciding whether you were master or slave was the color of your skin.

Besides, by what right does the federal gubmint own that land in Nevada? Other than the fact that the federal government bought it and paid for it in 1848. (See the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.) That doesn't mean it's "theirs" or anything, does it?

Bundy said of blacks, "I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro. They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."

On Thursday, he defended his remarks. "I don't think I'm wrong," Bundy told CNN's Bill Weir. "I think I'm right."

So who can blame poor Sean Hannity for looking like a right-wing blockhead for promoting the cause of a guy who turned around and said crazy, racist things? Well, I can.

Let me tell Sean about the Racist: The Racist hates federal subsidies. Not the subsidies that provide grassland to Nevada ranchers at below-market values. Nor the subsidies that bring water to the desert by, say, building Hoover Dam. Nor the subsidies that benefit mining operations in the Silver State. No, the Racist hates subsidies that sap the human soul: like food stamps for moms with hungry children. Especially if those moms happen to be, well, differently pigmented from him.

That's what's so interesting, not about this racist moron but about the Republicans who supported him until he revealed his views on slavery.

Bundy was plainly a nutcase, and the right-wing pundits and politicians should have seen that. He should never have been portrayed as a hero or a victim or anything other than a lawbreaker, a freeloader, a moocher. A taker.

For two decades, he grazed his cattle on land that did not belong to him and refused to pay the landowner. Right-wingers, one would think, would hate that. He refused to respect law enforcement, in fact threatened to take up arms against the peace officers whom Republicans usually trip over themselves to honor. I thought conservatives believed in law and order.

What if, instead of being a right-wing rancher who flouted the law, Bundy was the leader of a left-wing group of college radicals who occupied a government building? Ronald Reagan notoriously said of Berkeley protestors, "If there is to be a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement!"

Or what if Bundy had been the leader of the New Black Panther Party? What if he and his followers had, for 20 years, brazenly stolen from the federal government, refused to obey court orders and threatened police with guns? Would Hannity have been duped into defending him? Fat chance.

Or, umm, what if Bundy had been a Muslim, declaring a tiny caliphate on that dusty piece of Nevada? Does anyone really think Fox News would have made a hero of him then?

Bundy's status as a deadbeat welfare queen should have been sufficient for the likes of Hannity to know better than to support him. His threats of violence against American law enforcement personnel should have had Hannity up in arms.

Instead, the right-wing noise machine once more looks like a bunch of dupes and dopes, blindsided when their newest hero turns out to be a racist. It won't be the last time this happens.



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Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 25 11:23:36 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 25 11:05:58 2014.

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Really. Doesn't he get that this is partially the result of the BLM enforcing a law that Congress passed, the Endangered Speies Act?

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 25 11:26:16 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 25 11:23:36 2014.

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Olog seems to be in his own "world." This Bundy person is a lawbreaker to being with the GOP ran to his side like in 2 seonds as their hero and now look where it got them....running away from the hero person....

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Re: Which Condemnation Of Liberal Ignorance Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 25 11:36:13 2014, in response to Re: Which Condemnation Of Olog-Hai's Racism Will Rand Paul Plagiarize?, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 25 11:19:04 2014.

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Can't discuss something that doesn't exist. Not unless you want your racism brought up again?

Let's see what you think of Ms. Kira Davis.



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