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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:15:02 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 07:32:40 2014. OK, maybe you would be happy with this one?There is a filter on SubChat that replaces your name (and only your name) with your handle. Any reasonable person would conclude that this filter exists because Larry installed it at your behest, especially since you have repeatedly dodged requests to provide a more plausible explanation for the existence of a filter that exists specifically for your benefit. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:20:24 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 8 08:59:39 2014. I thought he was merely crazy. Then I found the post where he screamed that ending apartheid in South Africa resulted in the genocide of white people funded by communists.Now I figure he's just a sad old man resorting to increasingly ridiculous antics in a desperate attempt to get people to pay attention to him, since being eviscerated on SubChat is the only form of social contact he has. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:26:05 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 8 12:41:07 2014. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.I'm starting to think that's the explanation for your list of liberal beliefs. Speaking of which, I am now offering 75/25 odds that you're a racist. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:29:39 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:09:45 2014. The Catholic Church did not believe in geocentrism until the 1990s. They stopped believing it many centuries earlier. They just made themselves look like fools by not announcing it until the 1990s.The Catholic Church is only creationist in the sense that it would say that God set up evolution. It doesn't deny that evolution exists and changes organisms with time. In Christianity and Judaism, God does not have measurable or observable attributes. So all the language of science doesn't apply. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:40:40 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:15:02 2014. I have observed the filter (only on SubChat, not on OTChat) and I would not conlude that Larry installed it at Terrapin's behest. I see no evidence for that whatsoever.I would also disagree that the filter necessarily exists for Terrapin's benefit. It quite posibly might exist for Larry's benefit. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 8 13:43:59 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:20:24 2014. He isn't that old, though, 10 years younger than me. I was surprised when I found that out. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 13:44:30 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:29:39 2014. Having a human son and that son dying and coming back to life is both measurable and observable. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:46:59 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:29:39 2014. The Catholic Church did not believe in geocentrism until the 1990s. They stopped believing it many centuries earlier. They just made themselves look like fools by not announcing it until the 1990s.Right, which is why they had to conduct a "study" to determine what orbited what in the 1990s. The Catholic Church is only creationist in the sense that it would say that God set up evolution. It doesn't deny that evolution exists and changes organisms with time. They believe God guided the process. They believe humans are a special case. That may not be "Young Earth" creationism, but it's creationism nonetheless. That the Catholic Church is creationist sort of goes without saying— evolution directly contradicts one of their central dogmas, so they have to deny it to some extent. In Christianity and Judaism, God does not have measurable or observable attributes. So all the language of science doesn't apply. Yuh huh. The religion based on the premise that God personally intervenes in people's lives thinks that God has "no measurable or observable attributes." The religion based on the premise that God has a son thinks that God has "no measurable or observable attributes." The religion based on the premise that some dude in Italy has special knowledge of God's intentions thinks that God has "no measurable or observable attributes." The religion that opposes abortion on the grounds that God demands it thinks that God has "no measurable or observable attributes." I don't think you quite understand the term. If an entity does anything that can be observed or determined, then it has measurable and observable attributes and is therefore under the jurisdiction of science. "This being directly intervenes in the operation of the universe, but science is not allowed to study it because of reasons." That doesn't work. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:49:49 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:40:40 2014. I have observed the filter (only on SubChat, not on OTChat) and I would not conlude that Larry installed it at Terrapin's behest.I'm not going to say it, but... Anyway, I can't see any reason why a Terrapin-specific filter might benefit Larry or why he might choose to implement one without Terrapin asking for it. Maybe his wife asked for it? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:51:51 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 8 13:43:59 2014. Where does all this information on Olog come from? Best I can see, the guy's a hermit. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 8 14:15:41 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:51:51 2014. It was kind of a fluke. There was a thread some time ago, I don't remember what it was about, but at some point, some future event was referenced, and Olog replied that he would be XX years old when said event took place. I did the math and realized I would be 10 years older than that when the event took place. I think I even replied saying I'll be (XX+10) years old then, I had no idea that (Olog) was younger than me. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 14:41:02 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 11:06:56 2014. Right. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 14:43:05 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 11:06:56 2014. But science doesn't have to debunk it. Why should anyone believe anything that's just made up for which there is no evidence? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 14:47:59 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:04:12 2014. Who said it was "true"? It's what people believe to be true but it's not a truth, it's only a belief.As for the rest of your post, you seem to be changing the discussion entirely. We were talking about scientific answers vs religious answers and how they don't necessarily need to contradict. Then you made a point about all religions having already been debunked by science so I asked you to show how Judaism has been debunked by science. But your reply does not do that. |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 8 14:53:48 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 11:15:12 2014. Transubstantiation is mater of science and the church says it can't be questioned. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 8 14:55:08 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:26:05 2014. LOL, and why exactly would that be, you know me "so well" of course.That's the left's favorite nonsense to throw around, labeling people a racist, a bigot, or whatever it may be when someone disagrees with them...they can't understand that there are different viewpoints out there, theirs of course are the "only and best viewpoiints" acceptable of course, you rolling far leftist. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Apr 8 14:55:31 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 12:36:22 2014. Olog-hai sometimes posts useful stuff even though he is obviously crazy.That's pretty good. It reminds me of the Kramer line in the Seinfeld Bootleg episode: "Brody's a reasonable man but he's insane" Our Standardization/Evaluation Section motto when I was assigned to HQ 21 AF: "21 AF Stan/Eval - Harsh but Unfair" |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 8 14:58:21 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 14:47:59 2014. He thinks that when he makes long drawn out rants as responses that most people won't read past the first line of anyway, that he's "debunked" and "wins" when people get tired of responding to his rants. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 15:01:05 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 11:15:12 2014. Thanks. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 8 15:06:12 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 8 14:55:08 2014. "That's the left's favorite nonsense to throw around, labeling people a racist, a bigot, or whatever it may be when someone disagrees with them..."OH...SO NOW YOU ARE LABELING OLOG-HAI A >>>>>>LEFTIE? RIGHT ON BROTHER! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 8 15:07:33 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 8 14:58:21 2014. "He thinks that when he makes long drawn out rants as responses that most people won't read past the first line of anyway, that he's "debunked" and "wins" when people get tired of responding to his rants. "So explain how your posts lately are just running around in circles with no substance to them. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 15:13:00 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:10:30 2014. Why do I believe in Judaism? Hard to say. But what does that have to do with this discussion? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 8 15:13:11 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 8 15:07:33 2014. Absolutely. They are only of no substance when they are in response to people I really don't have an interest in debating with as they are so over the top, or like talking to a wall (such as oh I don't know...you, Nilet). When the person is worth debating or having a conversation with, they have more substance. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 15:14:20 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:40:40 2014. Thanks for the support, Al. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 15:17:22 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:15:02 2014. I only agree with the first sentence (but not the text in parenthesis). Try again? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 15:23:40 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 14:43:05 2014. What's the harm in doing so? I mean why shouldn't they? As long as the religious belief doesn't directly contradict science, what's the problem? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:39:04 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 13:44:30 2014. I don't think the gospel stories like Jesus telling Thomas to put his hand in his side are part of official dogma. And anyway, it's too late now to verify whether they happened or not. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:41:25 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 15:14:20 2014. Not sure I'm particularly supporting you. :)Just pointing out to a guy who claims to be science-oriented that he's jumping to conclusions without any evidence. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:43:31 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 8 14:53:48 2014. Transubstantiation is not a matter of science. The Church does not claim that if you analyze the communion wine it would be chemically indistinguishable from blood. |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 8 15:46:07 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:43:31 2014. The Church does not claim that if you analyze the communion wine it would be chemically indistinguishable from blood.they claim the wine is blood. if that were true it would be chemically indistinguishable from blood. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:48:06 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 14:43:05 2014. I'm not saying science should have to debunk it. Nilet was implying science has debunked it.People can believe whatever they feel like believing. And you are free to believe that they are very foolish for doing so. But if their beliefs don't impede you (say, if they demand that school text books be changed to fit their beliefs, or if they demand to be exempt from the peacetime draft because of their beliefs, that might impede you) then why do you care? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:50:52 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 8 15:46:07 2014. If you could ask the Pope or any bishop if communion wine is chemically indistinguishable from blood he would laugh and say of course not. It doesn't taste like blood, after all. It tastes like Manischewitz. :) |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 8 15:59:39 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:50:52 2014. if it's chemically different than blood, then it can't be blood. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:07:33 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 12:36:22 2014. so if someone argues with Nilet, bingbong, and JayZeeBMT, they're an Ologist? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:28:24 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:48:06 2014. I don't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:31:57 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:39:04 2014. How convenient. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:33:42 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:07:33 2014. You're illiterate. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:37:33 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:33:42 2014. no.anyone who does not feud with Olog must be an Ologist. That's where you are on this. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 8 16:52:07 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:51:51 2014. NSA metadata. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:52:37 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:37:33 2014. anyone who does not feud with Olog must be an Ologist.No, anyone who feuds but not with Olog-hai must be an Ologist. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:57:08 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:52:37 2014. yeah well, I have issues with you, Spider-Pig. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 17:47:33 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 8 15:59:39 2014. You are correct. As President Clinton said, it all depends on what your definition of "is" is. When a priest says "This is my blood" he is using a different definition of "is." |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Apr 8 17:47:34 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:57:08 2014. Are you going to watch the Gangsters episode about "Little Nicky" Scarfo, the Philadelphia crime boss, on bio. tonight? I hope Gangsters repeats the one about Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso... that guy was a homicidal maniac. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 18:28:58 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:57:08 2014. Such as? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 20:09:13 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 11:06:56 2014. One of the essential principles of science is "you can't just make sh!t up."Both of those statements would be counted as making sh!t up. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 20:13:00 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 20:09:13 2014. I agree. Which is why you can't prove religious claims with science. But you can't disprove those statements either - you can only call them absurd if you so wish. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 20:14:51 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 15:23:40 2014. What's the harm in doing so? I mean why shouldn't they?Let's see. Schools are teaching creationism because of religion. Politicians are restricting abortion in the name of religion. Gay marriage is banned in the name of religion. Countless people are killed in the name of religion. Women have been oppressed for centuries (and have yet to achieve equality today) because of religion. Countless man-hours are wasted on senseless rituals because religious people think they're effective. Science has been restricted for centuries because it keeps debunking religious beliefs. Need I go on? What's the harm indeed. As long as the religious belief doesn't directly contradict science, what's the problem? You keep failing to grasp this concept— the basic principle of science is that you have to find the answers and verify them. The minute you just make something up at random and declare it to be an answer, you have already contradicted science. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 20:16:36 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 20:13:00 2014. But you can't disprove those statements either...Look up "null hypothesis" and get back to me. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 20:20:10 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 8 14:47:59 2014. Who said it was "true"? It's what people believe to be true but it's not a truth, it's only a belief.Why would you believe something you thought was false? As for the rest of your post, you seem to be changing the discussion entirely. We were talking about scientific answers vs religious answers and how they don't necessarily need to contradict. Define "scientific answer" and "religious answer." These are non-standard terms, so I can't help but wonder whether or not you know what science and religion actually are. As evidenced by the fact that you said: Then you made a point about all religions having already been debunked by science so I asked you to show how Judaism has been debunked by science. But your reply does not do that. I did precisely that. The defining principle of science is that you can't just make sh!t up. Judaism is a bunch of sh!t that someone just made up. If you want anything more specific, you'll have to be more specific about what you believe. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 20:21:31 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 8 14:58:21 2014. ...long drawn out rants as responses that most people won't read past the first line of anyway...You don't read anything I say past the first line? Oh, so that's why everything you say is complete gibberish! |
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