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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 4 08:35:59 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 4 08:26:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, vacation is too valuable to waste in a cold place.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 4 08:36:46 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 3 16:46:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
WHAT DID YOU SAY?

Squint and you'll hear it better. :)


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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 4 08:52:18 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 3 20:48:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, do you have proof?

North Carolina General Statutes § 163-166.13(e)

As used in this section, "photo identification" means any one of the following that contains a photograph of the registered voter...

(1) A North Carolina drivers license issued under Article 2 of Chapter 20 of the General Statutes, including a learner's permit or a provisional license.

(2) A special identification card for nonoperators issued under G.S. 20-37.7.

(3) A United States passport.

(4) A United States military identification card, except there is no requirement that it have a printed expiration or issuance date.

(5) A Veterans Identification Card issued by the United States Department of Veterans Affairs for use at Veterans Administration medical facilities facilities, except there is no requirement that it have a printed expiration or issuance date.

(6) A tribal enrollment card issued by a federally recognized tribe.

(7) A tribal enrollment card issued by a tribe recognized by this State under Chapter 71A of the General Statutes, provided that card meets all of the following criteria:

a. Is issued in accordance with a process approved by the State Board of Elections that requires an application and proof of identity equivalent to the requirements for issuance of a special identification card by the Division of Motor Vehicles under G.S. 20-7 and G.S. 20-37.7.

b. Is signed by an elected official of the tribe.

(8) A drivers license or nonoperators identification card issued by another state, the District of Columbia, or a territory or commonwealth of the United States, but only if the voter's voter registration was within 90 days of the election. (2013-381, s. 2.1.)

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 4 09:22:48 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 4 08:52:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
As for the outback analogy....its not a question of being allowed in outback or not.....its the loss of business. A vegetarian boycotting outback wouldn't mean much at all as they are highly unlikely to go there to begin with. There's nothing great about the Great state of Mississippi.....its not high on Gays tourism list.....nor many others. Only time I went there was driving through a stop at biloxi to break up a ride from Orlando to new Orleans one night. Not much else to do there.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 4 09:25:42 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 4 09:22:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Only time I went there was driving through a stop at biloxi to break up a ride from Orlando to new Orleans one night. Not much else to do there.

Do you think the place where you stopped should have been able to turn you away because something violated their religious beliefs?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:13:03 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 4 00:48:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Let me guess, you loathed all Republicans after 1980. Before that most were all wonderful.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:15:55 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:12:16 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I didn't see Hebrew or Yiddish.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 4 10:16:07 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:13:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Pretty much, yeah.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:17:35 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 4 10:16:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Really? Which Republicans have you actually liked?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:21:43 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:15:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hebrew and Yiddish are not native languages of the Americas, nor are they the de facto language of a state or territory of America, but if you want to include them we can go right ahead.

In fact, let's just make this easier and declare that all languages are the official language of the United States.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:23:07 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:21:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What is the predominant language spoken in the United States of America?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:23:12 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:17:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I can't speak for Fred, but I think Eisenhower seemed pretty decent for his time.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:24:02 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:23:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
English and Spanish.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:24:54 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 4 07:02:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You've been pwned.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 4 10:26:50 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:17:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I enthusiastically voted for Ford and until it was shown he was a crook, was a Nixon fan. Before that I can only go by history books. I didn't vote for Reagan in 1980 because I voted for Anderson. Locally I still vote Republican at times, depending on the office and the person running.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:29:22 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 4 05:29:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL, you can't live it down.

Excuse me? I'm sitting here laughing at you, as is everybody who knows what the terms "right-wing" and "left-wing" mean.

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Projection isn't just for slide shows anymore! :)

And you keep lying that I'm an anarchist...

If you're not an anarchist, then describe the government you support. In more detail than "small."

If there is no form of government that you would support, then you are an anarchist by definition.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:49:23 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:24:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
WRONG! spanish does come in second, but English is number one! Let me guess, you do not get irritated when you hear, "press one for spanish"

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:50:15 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 10:23:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Eisenhower was good. So was Reagan.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 4 10:55:21 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:49:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wouldn't that be "para Español, oprima numero uno"?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:55:27 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 4 10:26:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ok. Here's my history. 1980 I voted for Reagan, 84 Reagan, 88 George HW Bush, 92 George HW Bush, 96 Dole, 2000 Al Gore(mistake), 2004 Kerry(mistake), 2008 McCain, and 2012 Romney.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:56:11 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 4 10:55:21 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
lol. ikr

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 4 11:10:46 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 4 10:26:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Huh? Ford was a crook?


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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 4 11:30:02 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:12:16 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hey.you missed sawee:-)

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 11:50:55 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:49:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
WRONG! spanish does come in second, but English is number one!

Official languages don't come in orders. French is no less the official language of Canada than English, and if we were to make America's de facto languages official, then Spanish would be just as official as English.

Let me guess, you do not get irritated when you hear, "press one for spanish"

Of course not. Why would it bother me?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 11:51:33 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:50:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Reagan commit treason before he even became President. The rest of his regime wasn't much of an improvement.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 11:56:03 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 11:50:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It perhaps depends on your ethnic backgroud. Which is?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 11:56:03 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 4 11:10:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. That's not what he said.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 11:56:54 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 11:51:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
smh What kind ot treason?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 11:57:01 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 11:56:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, it doesn't, racist.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 11:59:40 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 11:57:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ok let me guess. When requested to press 1 for spanish doesn't bother you either?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:00:34 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 10:15:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're pathetic.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:02:32 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:00:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Besides the point. Does it not bother you when asked to press one for spanish, or English? Yes or no? It's an easy question.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:03:41 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 11:59:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Except that it's 2 for Spanish.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 12:04:27 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 11:56:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You know, you're not helping your case that you're not a racist when you say you need to know my race to determine whether my arguments are valid.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:04:56 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:03:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK then, 2 for spanish. Does that bother you or not?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 12:06:51 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 11:56:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He conspired with Iranians to keep Americans held hostage and the American embassy under threat so that he could gain politically by "freeing" them later.

Last time I checked, conspiring with a foreign country to arrange an attack on your own country was considered treason.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:07:14 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 12:04:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Still won't answer my question, even though I told you about myself. Aparently you're not proud of your background.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 4 12:10:03 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:02:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ridiculous as it seems...it is annoying,but it doesnt have one single thing to do with the TOPIC at hand.
Why is it you Always feel you need to 'add' unneeded rancorous dialog?
Patsy Cline was a wonderful singer.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:10:37 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:02:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, it's not. That's an unrelated point to your asking why a West Asian language and a European language are not included in a list exclusively of North American languages.

And why not ask about Ladino? Jewish languages are no less significant just because someone like you hasn't heard of them.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:12:09 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:07:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Being proud of something you have no control over and had no part in influencing is stupid.

If you were a typical Jew I'd be deeply ashamed of it.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:12:51 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:04:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. Why should it? It's the least annoying part of automated call systems.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 4 12:13:02 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:07:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Actually,you said nothing about your background that's factual.
Why is this topic all about You?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:13:17 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 12:06:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No he did not, the Iranians did that to make the second worst president ever, Jimmy Carter look bad.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:15:14 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 4 12:10:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're right, Patsy Cline was a very good talent.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:15:49 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:13:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! They didn't give a shit about that.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:16:03 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:12:09 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Is your name Niles, uh I mean nilet?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 4 12:16:43 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:04:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No..does it bother you?

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:17:44 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 12:12:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thank you for finally answering me. Of course we disagree, so what else is new.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:18:14 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 4 12:13:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ask me, and I'll tell you.

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Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 12:18:37 2014, in response to Re: North Carolina: Voter fraud under investigation; tighter election security sought, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 4 12:07:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Still won't answer my question, even though I told you about myself.

You still haven't answered my question— why does my race matter?

That you told me yours is irrelevant; I'm not a racist myself, so I don't need to know your race to determine the legitimacy of your arguments.

Aparently you're not proud of your background.

(a) Why is the colour of my skin or the national origin of my ancestors something I'm even supposed to be "proud" of? I consider all forms of hereditary privilege to be anathema; the idea that I should take pride in traits which are completely inborn just seems silly.

(b) That I won't tell my race to a racist is generally good practice. Moreover, if I did tell you my race, we'd just get into a bunch of irrelevant quibbles over whether my arguments are inherently invalid simply by virtue of the fact that I belong to the Inferior Race™ or whether I'm a "traitor" for betraying the Superior Race® by accepting that other people are human (depending on your exact flavour of racism).

So I ask you again— exactly why do you need to know what race I am to determine whether my arguments are valid?

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