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WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014 fiogf49gjkf0d ~~Christian~~ Science Monitor Fred Phelps, founder of 'rabid' Westboro Baptist Church, said near death Fred Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church is in a hospice facility, with a son saying he is near death. The son also says Phelps was excommunicated from the virulently antigay church last year. By Mark Sappenfield, Staff writer / March 16, 2014 Fred Phelps Sr., the founder of the Kansas church held in disgust worldwide for its antigay protests of prominent funerals, is in hospice care and "on the edge of death," according to one of his estranged sons. Nate Phelps posted the information on Facebook Saturday night, adding the revelation that his father had been excommunicated from the church in 2013. A church spokesman told the Topeka Capitol-Journal that Phelps was indeed in the hospice but that Nate Phelps "is not well informed." The spokesman also refused to comment on the allegation that the elder Mr. Phelps has been excommunicated. Another son, Mark Phelps, told the Capitol-Journal that its information on his father's health "is accurate." Fred Phelps established the Westboro Baptist Church in 1955, and in recent years it has become famous for its position that those killed in America's wars are being punished for the country's lenience toward homosexuals. Members protested military funerals with signs that read, among other things, "God Hates Fags." The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups in the United States, says on its website that Westboro "is arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America. The group is basically a family-based cult of personality built around its patriarch, Fred Phelps." The group began to gain widespread notoriety last decade, particularly through a series of court decisions that ended with the US Supreme Court in March 2011 declaring that the church's right to protest funerals was free speech protected by the Constitution. It later protested the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards, the former wife of presidential candidate John Edwards, and a memorial for Steve Jobs, the founder of Apple. The church is made up mostly of Phelps's own family. But spokesman Steve Drain told the Capitol-Journal that "for a very long time, we haven't been organized in the way you think," referring to the idea of a defined leader. Nate Phelps told the Capitol-Journal in an e-mail that when his father was excommunicated last August, he was watched for fear of him hurting himself, then he "basically stopped eating and drinking."
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Easy* on Sun Mar 16 16:34:00 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I just came here to post this! I predict that not many tears will be shed here or anywhere else.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Elkeeper* on Sun Mar 16 16:37:16 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 16 16:34:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d "As ye sow, so shall ye reap!"
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 16 16:37:27 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 16 16:34:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Sorry for taking that away from you. No, Mr. Fred Phelps is not the sympathetic type. It'd be more of a "good riddance" thing with him.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Easy* on Sun Mar 16 16:39:17 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:37:27 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Did you intentionally avoid using his preferred title?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by kew gardens teleport* on Sun Mar 16 17:28:18 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d So who wants to picket his funeral?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by rkba* on Sun Mar 16 18:40:20 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d We'll miss you, Edwards.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 16 20:29:42 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I wonder how big the picket line outside St. Peter's office will be, asking that Phelps NOT be admitted to Heaven?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by streetcarman1* on Sun Mar 16 20:29:55 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by rkba on Sun Mar 16 18:40:20 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Edwards?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 16 20:34:45 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 16 16:39:17 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Why use something I don't recognize?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by streetcarman1* on Sun Mar 16 20:45:23 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 20:34:45 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d NOT ABLE GRASP THE WORD RABID? EH? THAT SHOULD BE RIGHT DOWN YOUR ALLEY.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Sun Mar 16 21:23:53 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Mar 16 17:28:18 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Why stoop to his level?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Mar 16 22:30:23 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 16 21:23:53 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d +1
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by DAnD124* on Sun Mar 16 22:37:08 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d good riddance
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 16 22:46:51 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Mar 16 20:45:23 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d That's his official title, that he adorned himself with? Not even your jokes come off good.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Fred G* on Sun Mar 16 22:55:38 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 16 20:29:42 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I don't think that's a concern. your pal, Fred
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Mon Mar 17 01:15:16 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Good riddance
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Mar 17 01:53:16 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:37:27 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Got at least two "good riddances" so far.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by Fred G* on Mon Mar 17 07:14:37 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I just hope his followers disband and he's forgotten quickly. your pal, Fred
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Mon Mar 17 07:29:09 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 17 01:53:16 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Lol....I didn't even notice that till my good riddance for the asshole
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WBC's Fred Phelps—a Democrat
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 19 16:10:55 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Politico Fred Phelps: 10 things to know By Andrea Drusch \| 3/17/14 4:44 PM EDT \| Updated: 3/17/14 7:08 PM EDT Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps might be best known for his activism against gay rights and the military, but his history with politics goes back long before he began protesting funerals in the 1990s. Across the nation, laws have been passed to limit his controversial demonstrations, including laws signed by two different presidents. On Sunday, a church spokesman reported that the 84-year-old Kansan’s health is in critical condition. Here are 10 things you might not know about Fred Phelps, his biography and his politics: He has run repeatedly for office. He ran in five Democratic primaries in Kansas, including gubernatorial, U.S. Senate and mayoral races, but never won. He and his church supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic presidential primary but later picketed the 1997 inaugural ball because Gore had changed his views on gay rights. He has demonstrated against the funerals of Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and William Rehnquist. He lost his mother at a young age. When Phelps was 5 years old, his mother died of esophageal cancer, leaving him and his sister to be raised by their great aunt. His father remarried, but he became estranged from his parents, never speaking to them and returning their mail unopened. He was admitted to West Point. At age 16, Phelps had earned an Eagle Scout award through the Boy Scouts, graduated high school and been accepted by the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. He chose not to attend after attending a Methodist revival meeting. He went on to enroll in four different schools, including Bob Jones University, John Muir College, Prairie Bible Institute and Arizona Bible Institute. He represented African-American clients in civil rights cases. Phelps received a law degree from Washburn University and opened his own law firm, called Phelps Chartered. He took on racial discrimination cases, and represented two female professors in a gender discrimination case. He received awards from the NAACP, and made up a third of Kansas’s docket for civil rights cases. He was disbarred in the state after suing a court reporter and making false statements. The United States Supreme Court ruled in his favor. In 2011, the Westboro Baptist Church won a free speech case in the Supreme Court, 8-1, when it upheld a lower court ruling, allowing the group to protest at military funerals. Phelps was named as a defendant for the case (Snyder vs. Phelps). In the opinion, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote that Westboro’s demonstrations were held on public land governed by local law enforcement and addressed public concerns. He was ordained by the Southern Baptist Church. While Westboro Baptist Church has no ties to the Baptist denomination, association or convention, and most members have disavowed Phelps and his congregation, he was ordained a minister in the Southern Baptist Convention at age 17. He founded Westboro in 1955, and describes it as Primitive Baptist, though not a part of the decentralized group of other Primitive Baptist congregations. Westboro’s teachings strongly deviate from the teachings of mainstream Baptists, but there is no central body exerting authority over which churches can call themselves Baptist. He once sent a delegation from his church to Baghdad. Before the Iraq War, Phelps wrote to Saddam Hussein praising him for allowing Christians to preach openly in a Muslim state. He got permission from Hussein to send some of his congregation to Iraq for a week to preach the gospel and protest U.S. policy, condemning Bill and Hillary Clinton. Phelps had changed his opinion on Hussein by the ex-dictator’s death in 2006. He’s in a Sundance film. Phelps appeared in the 2001 film “A Union in Wait,” which was the first documentary about same-sex marriage to air on national television in the U.S. Phelps had picketed the film’s subject, a union ceremony at Wake Forest Baptist Church. He’s served time. He was convicted of disorderly conduct for verbal harassment in 1994 and served two 30-day jail sentences. He was also convicted of assault and battery charges a year later, carrying a minimum of 18 months, but a judge ruled that he had been denied a speedy trial, so he never served the sentence. He’s banned from Great Britain. He and daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper both received notification from the United Kingdom’s Home Office that they were barred from entering Britain in advance of their first U.K. picket. They were put on a list of 16 individuals (including radio host Michael Savage) who could potentially foster “hatred which might lead to inter-community violence.”
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a Democrat
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Wed Mar 19 16:23:50 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps—a Democrat, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 19 16:10:55 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL!!!
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a self-described Democrat
Posted by italianstallion* on Wed Mar 19 17:13:46 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps—a Democrat, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 19 16:10:55 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d But is he really? "He got permission from Hussein to send some of his congregation to Iraq for a week to preach the gospel and protest U.S. policy, condemning Bill and Hillary Clinton." "[He] picketed the 1997 inaugural ball because Gore had changed his views on gay rights." "He ran in five Democratic primaries . . . but NEVER WON." "He was ordained by the Southern Baptist Church." [No Dems there.]
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a Democrat
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 19 19:31:51 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a self-described Democrat, posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 19 17:13:46 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL! Do Democrats always win or something? Seems you completely forgot about Robert Byrd too. And Jimmy Carter. Both Southern Baptists.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a DINO
Posted by dand124* on Wed Mar 19 19:42:08 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a Democrat, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 19 19:31:51 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d lol every time a republican does something embarrassing you call him a RINO
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a Democrat
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 19 20:19:09 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps—a DINO, posted by dand124 on Wed Mar 19 19:42:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Phelps exhibited typical Democratic intolerant behavior. He served his purpose too, to undermine Christians. You're lying again. RINOs are Republicans that claim to be conservative and act otherwise.
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WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Mar 20 12:08:08 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d WIBW, CBS 13, Topeka Fred Phelps, former head of Westboro Baptist Church, died, family member says By Greg Palmer and Nick Viviani Updated: Thu 10:55 AM, Mar 20, 2014 Fred Phelps Sr., the former head of the Westboro Baptist Church, died late Wednesday night, according to a family member. Phelps' son, Timothy told 13 News that his father died just before midnight. Timothy Pheps works at the Shawnee Co. Jail. Ironically, another son who is a member of the church, attorney Jonathan Phelps told us Thursday morning, "Pastor Phelps is doing just fine." That, of course, could have been a spiritual reference. Over the weekend, we learned that Phelps was reportedly "on the edge of death." In a statement on his Facebook page, Nathan Phelps, who has been estranged from his father for 30 years, said the senior Phelps was dying in hospice care in Topeka, Kan., and that he had been ex-communicated from his own church in August of 2013. Fred Phelps was a man bent on delivering a message. He did it by becoming a lawyer and by becoming a minister. Despite being disbarred in 1979, Fred Phelps pushed his name into the public eye, through the political arena in campaigns to vie for Senator and Governor. Phelps scored 30-percent of the vote in his 1992 senate bid. In the early 90s, wearing sunglasses and a windbreaker, Fred Phelps was making a name for the family church by holding one of a barrage of picket signs, with the stark messages decrying homosexuality. The Westboro notoriety spread quickly beyond Kansas. Topekans were targeted in hundreds upon hundreds of faxes sent from the Westboro Baptist Church Phelps zeroed in on Topeka’s Gage Park with his decency drive. Some would try to stop him, including the CCT (Concerned Citizens of Topeka). The City of Topeka tried ordinances restricting picketing outside homes and churches, but Phelps was a master litigator, filing lawsuits demanding millions and in some cases winning judgments of tens of thousands of dollars. How two Topeka Police Chiefs, Gerald Beavers and Dean Forster would have TPD deal with WBC, led to major policy battles inside City Hall. Beavers resigned, ending his strategy of placating the Phelps with no-arrest orders. By the close of the 1990s the Westboro message took another turn, opening with its protests at the funeral of slain Wyoming college student Matthew Shepherd. The protest gained Westboro, and Phelps, global notoriety. As time marched through to the mid 2000s, the patriarch had faded from public view, but the world would take note of the Phelps children and grandchildren, and their protests of military funerals. Missouri's anti-picketing law upheld by a federal judge earlier this year. In the end, Fred Phelps was ex-communicated from his own church by three of his children. His descendants continue the protests, but who will lead the church after Phelps death is the question many in Topeka are asking now that Fred Phelps is gone. Earlier this week, a current church elder told WIBW that they need no leader; their head is Jesus Christ.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Mar 20 12:52:32 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 20 12:08:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Fred Phelps, former head of Westboro Baptist Church, died, Party!!!!
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by streetcarman1* on Thu Mar 20 13:53:03 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 20 12:52:32 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d So what are the travel directions to the party at your house?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by AMoreira81* on Thu Mar 20 20:13:05 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 20 12:08:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d So where's the party?
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Mar 20 20:29:54 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 20 12:08:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I won't miss the guy but RIP. your pal, Fred
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Mar 20 20:43:00 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 20 20:29:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Properly Christian response. :)
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by chicagomotorman* on Thu Mar 20 20:54:06 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 20 20:29:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Classy.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Thu Mar 20 21:04:25 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 20 13:53:03 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The Mertz Building....623 East 68th St.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Thu Mar 20 21:05:05 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 20:13:05 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d 1164 Morning Glory Circle
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Thu Mar 20 21:09:12 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 20 12:08:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ding dong the witch is dead ........................
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Thu Mar 20 21:10:49 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 20 20:29:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d stoke the fire, guess who is coming ;-)
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Mar 20 21:26:19 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Mar 20 21:10:49 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Keep your sex life offa here.
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by AMoreira81* on Thu Mar 20 21:54:14 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Mar 20 21:05:05 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I hear that 4chan and 9GAG are handling the funeral arrangements :D
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Mar 20 21:56:00 2014, in response to WBC's Fred Phelps said to be near death, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 16 16:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'm not kidding LOL! your pal, Fred
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Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Mar 20 22:00:18 2014, in response to Re: WBC's Fred Phelps now dead, per family member, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 20 21:54:14 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yes they are ... he's been booked on MH370 to his final destination. :)
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Mar 20 22:10:56 2014, in response to Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 20 21:56:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d They really want an audience for their circus, don't they.
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Mar 20 22:15:34 2014, in response to Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 20 22:10:56 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You should try actually reading what Fred posted to see what's up there.
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Mar 20 22:19:19 2014, in response to Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 20 22:15:34 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ah yes, the update. My statement still stands.
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Mar 20 22:25:54 2014, in response to Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 20 22:19:19 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Their "group" was hijacked by kibbitzers in the first place. Aw ... nevermind ... carry on then.
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Mar 20 22:40:25 2014, in response to Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 20 22:25:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d They're the "no publicity is bad publicity" crowd either way.
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Mar 20 22:44:47 2014, in response to Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 20 22:40:25 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. You're doing more right here for their publicity than Gramps from 4chan. :)
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Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Mar 20 22:48:18 2014, in response to Re: WBC will protest Fred Phelps Funeral, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 20 22:44:47 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Well, if it wasn't me, it'd be someone else.
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