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Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 11 10:20:50 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 10:19:43 2014. Are you contending you have evidence that this is no longer taught on a widespread basis? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 11 10:33:38 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 11 07:43:07 2014. He practices exactly what he denouncesYou blather non-stop. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 11:04:12 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 11 10:20:50 2014. Never claimed that. I claimed that your response that "just because you had that in junior high XX years ago" is meaningless to todays education system. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 11 11:22:09 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 11:04:12 2014. and what evidence does the "important thinker" have to back up his claims. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 11:33:52 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 11 11:22:09 2014. Doesn't need any. He's a conservative brand and you take anything any of them say as religion. :-\ |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 11 11:34:08 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 11:04:12 2014. No, it's not meaningless. I have evidence it is taught, as does Spider-Pig, and no one else has evidence it is not taught. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 11:37:36 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 09:55:24 2014. If you think Oogie is negative, you should hang out with cops more often. :)
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Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 11 11:47:13 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 09:55:24 2014. I also believe there are people out there who do the right thing knowing IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.They often go unrecognized..undervalued..and unappreciated...but they keep going, doing so without fanfare gets them the crown they deserve. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 11 12:02:36 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 11 01:39:10 2014. you've got a point there..but i have to disagree some.Man has the "potential" for an infinite amount of good..BUT he lacks the ONE THING that allows that GOOD to be paramount in his life. SELF CONTROL. It takes a great deal of strength to control impulsive behavior. linked directly to our ego..it causes us to do things under a NORMAL FRAME OF MIND we wouldn't do. But..then again..What is "normal" for US? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:27:24 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 11 11:34:08 2014. You mean "was taught", not "is taught". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:33:04 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 11:37:36 2014. I was talking about JayZee being overly negative |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:33:46 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 11 11:47:13 2014. Exactly. And there are FAR more of them, than the opposite. We just don't hear about the scores of them, as it doesn't make for "news". |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 11 15:42:50 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:27:24 2014. Curriculums don't change nationwide that quickly. Therefore the present tense is appropriate in the absence of evidence to the contrary. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:46:00 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 11 15:42:50 2014. No, that is not true at all. What was true when "you" went to junior high may or may not be the case today, so is irrelevant to the discussion.I am not claiming what is taught either way, just that the fat that "you" had it taught some way many years ago means nothing. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 11 15:55:51 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:33:04 2014. Heh. So was I ... :) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 12 04:38:35 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 11 12:02:36 2014. I still truly believe there's far mor good out there than bad. We don't hear about all rge normal good things....just all the bad....as that's news. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 12 04:54:46 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 11 01:39:10 2014. In a way that's an HBD post. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 12 07:48:14 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:46:00 2014. But as he said. We have evidence it was taught, but no evidence that it's changed. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 12 08:21:59 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:46:00 2014. You're arguing on a maybe.your pal, Fred |
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Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 12 08:43:39 2014, in response to Re: A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 11 15:46:00 2014. I am not claiming what is taught either way, just that the fat that "you" had it taught some way many years ago means nothing.It neither means nothing nor does it mean everything. It's contributory information. Let's get to the point. I am claiming that Prager is defaming the US educational system by saying it does not generally teach the complicity of African tribal leaders in the slave trade. Do you agree or not? If you disagree, then why? Everything else is irrelevant. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 13 15:51:54 2014, in response to A Letter from Africa Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 11 01:02:26 2014. 
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Noah: One of the Most Moral Stories Ever Told Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 18 13:48:25 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. Prager loves mass murderhttp://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/03/18/noah-one-of-the-most-moral-stories-ever-told-n1810537 Next week, the film "Noah" opens. Having taught the Torah (the Five Books of Moses) from the Hebrew for more than 40 years (hundreds of hours are available by download through my website), I consider the biblical flood story one of the world's most profound moral teachings. As I will show, it means that God cares about goodness more than anything else. Let me explain by answering the most frequent challenges to the story. Q: Why did God destroy the world? A: Because "The Lord saw how great was man's wickedness on earth. ... And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth and His heart was saddened" (Genesis 6:5-6). When God created the world, He announced after each day's creations, "It was good." But only after His final creation -- the human being -- on the sixth day, did God say, "It was very good." God was particularly pleased with, and had the highest hopes for, this creation, the only one created "in His image." This is not about man having God's physical attributes (God is not physical). It is about humans being infinitely more precious than all other creations; and only man, like God, has moral knowledge and therefore moral free will. When God saw how cruelly human beings treated one another, He decided that He would start over. Once people reach a certain level of widespread evil, life is pointless. Q: Why did God destroy animals as well? A: In the biblical worldview, the purpose of all creation is to benefit man. This anthropocentric view of nature, and indeed of the whole universe, is completely at odds with the current secular idealization of nature. This secular view posits that nature has its own intrinsic meaning and purpose, independent of man. All of creation, in the biblical view, was to ultimately prepare the way for the creation of man. But one does not need the Bible alone to hold this view. A purely scientific reading of the universe is in keeping with this view. Everything -- every natural and physical law -- is exquisitely tuned to produce life, and ultimately man, on earth. Q: Isn't the biblical flood story just a fairy tale? A: Two responses: First, this is so only if you believe that the biblical flood story states that the entire earth from the North Pole to the South Pole was flooded and that every living creature from penguins to polar bears, except for the animals and the people on Noah's ark, was killed. But that is not what the story says. The narrative speaks of the world where Noah lived: It is expressly stated in Genesis 9:10 that there were other animals in the world that were not killed by the flood. Second, the primary purpose of the flood story -- like other stories in the Bible, such as the creation story -- is to convey enduring wisdom and moral insight, not geology or science. And the lessons of the flood story influenced civilization for millennia. Q: What are these lessons? A: One has already been mentioned: If evil becomes widespread enough, there is no longer a purpose to human existence. Second, God values goodness more than any other human trait. Thus, the only reason Noah was saved was that "Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations" (Genesis 6:9). This alone renders the biblical story unique among the flood stories of the ancient world. In those stories, a very common reason the gods saved a man was that the gods found him physically, not morally, exceptional. Third, God hates evil. And so should we. A fourth lesson is the moral necessity of divine revelation. God created man without giving him a Ten Commandments or any other revealed moral instruction. The only moral code was the one God built in to the human being: the conscience. Clearly this was not enough to make a good world. The world sank into evil. This is another biblical lesson that runs entirely counter to a dominant belief of the modern age. The secular world holds that religion and God are morally unnecessary; the individual's conscience is sufficient to guide moral behavior. The Bible, as usual, knew better. After the evil that led to the flood, God decided to reveal basic moral rules -- such as that murder is wrong. So wrong that one of the moral rules revealed after the flood is that murderers must be put to death -- yet another way in which this story runs counter to the prevailing doctrines of our time. No wonder the secular world ignores the Bible and the left largely loathes it. Given the unprecedented ignorance of the Bible in contemporary America, it is likely that more young Americans will only know the Noah of "Noah." We can only hope that the film offers even a fraction of the wisdom of the original. |
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Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 25 18:18:39 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. i thought jews didn't believe in hell.http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/03/25/pope-francis-threatens-hell--hooray-n1813995 Last week, Pope Francis warned Italy's Mafia leaders that if they continue their evil ways, they will go to hell. Hooray for the pope. More power to him for threatening evil people with hell. I had begun to despair that in my lifetime I would hear such talk from mainstream Christian or Jewish leaders. For the past two generations, God has rarely been depicted as judging and punishing. Instead all we have heard is the phrase, "God Is Love," which, when offered as the one description of God, is morally meaningless -- and even morally dangerous. If your aim is to produce moral behavior -- and that should be the primary aim of every religion -- "God is love" is no more helpful than "Dad is love" is to producing a good son. Morally speaking, "God will judge you" is a far superior message. As a recent academic study by Azim Shariff, an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Oregon, published on the science website Plos One, concluded: "Belief in hell predicted lower crime rates; whereas belief in heaven predicted higher crime rates." (Italics in original.) Because we live in the most secular age in recorded history, our age lacks any concept of an afterlife reward and punishment. Making things worse, it is also a wisdom-challenged age that believes people are basically good -- and therefore don't need threats of punishment. Worst of all, this thinking has spread to mainstream Judaism and Christianity, most of whose clergy find threats of hell intellectually primitive and morally useless. The "God is love" message alone is also religiously inaccurate. In Judaism and Christianity, God is many things. He is, for example, a "God of war" (ever heard of the "Lord of hosts"?) And most important, "God is just," which means that God rewards and punishes. Indeed, if God doesn't reward and punish, He is not a loving God. There is a second reason Pope Francis's message is so important. It puts the spotlight on world Muslim leaders. Wouldn't it be morally refreshing if leaders of Sunni and Shiite Islam made a similar pronouncement? It is not enough for Muslim leaders to issue routine condemnations of violence and terrorism. Without specifying the Muslims who are the world's premier practitioners of murder in God's name, these condemnations of violence and terror are worthless. Muslim religious leaders -- from Al-Azhar in Cairo to local imams throughout the world - need to say exactly what Pope Francis said to the Catholic members of the Mafia: "Any Muslim who commits an act of terror -- that is, deliberately murders civilians of any nationality or religion -- goes to hell." This would be particularly effective given how many Muslim terrorists have been convinced by some religious leaders that blowing up, shooting, or slitting the throats of men, women and children guarantees that they will go straight to heaven (where, moreover, they will be attended to by dozens of virgin women). Condemnations of actions in general mean nothing. Only when the perpetrators are specified and their actions are specified is there hope of having a moral impact. Pope Francis specified exactly whom he was addressing and for what sins. Muslim religious leaders around the world need to specify that members of organizations such as these will go to hell unless they repent: al-Qaida and its affiliates around the world (such as al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb and al-Qaida in Mesopotamia); Hizb ut-Tahrir; the Syria-based Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant; the Taliban and Haqqani Network in Afghanistan and Pakistan; the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba (perpetrators of the Mumbai massacres); and the Nigeria-based Boko Haram (that routinely slaughters Christians). Of course, such a proclamation is unlikely to happen. Muslim leaders are far more active in condemning "insults" to Islam or Muhammad. But at least the juxtaposition offers the world clarity about the contemporary moral state of Christian and Muslim leadership. |
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LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 25 22:20:21 2014, in response to Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 25 18:18:39 2014. how is this important thinking? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 25 22:36:19 2014, in response to LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'', posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 25 22:20:21 2014. How is it not intellectualism?That's a good piece. |
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Re: LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 25 22:54:52 2014, in response to Re: LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'', posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 25 22:36:19 2014. how is it important thinking? he doesn't seem to understand the there is no central authority in Islam. |
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Re: LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 25 23:01:33 2014, in response to Re: LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'', posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 25 22:54:52 2014. so write that on his Facebook. |
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Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell—Whatevz! Re: dand124's ''important stalking'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 26 01:34:21 2014, in response to LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'', posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 25 22:20:21 2014. Don't you have a life, or something? Or are you really just insane? |
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LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Wed Mar 26 13:07:05 2014, in response to Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell—Whatevz! Re: dand124's ''important stalking'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 26 01:34:21 2014. luch claims that Prager is an important thinker i'm asking for evidence. |
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Re: LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 26 13:55:19 2014, in response to LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'', posted by DAnD124 on Wed Mar 26 13:07:05 2014. LOL! I'm looking for evidence that he's even thinking....all I see is the same old shit warmed over. |
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Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Apr 8 13:18:56 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. LUch, how is this important thinking?http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/04/08/uninstall-firefox-n1819985 In 31 years of broadcasting, and 40 years of writing, I have never advocated a boycott of a product. Quite the opposite, in fact. During the 2012 presidential campaign, when the left attempted to destroy Chick-Fil-A for its owner's views on same-sex marriage, I suggested on my radio show that the Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, stand in front of a Chick-Fil-A restaurant while enjoying some Ben and Jerry's ice cream. In that way, I argued, he could show one of the great moral differences between the right and the left. Though Ben and Jerry are leftists, we conservatives do not believe that company owners' views should matter to consumers. We believe that products should speak for themselves. If the ice cream is good, despite whatever repugnance we might feel regarding the views of the makers of that ice cream, we will still purchase it. The left does not see things that way. The left is out to crush individuals and companies with whom it differs. This is especially so today on the issue of same-sex marriage. Perhaps the most dramatic example of this took place last week. The governing board of the widely used browser, Firefox, forced the company's CEO, Brendan Eich, to resign. The Firefox board had learned that in 2008, Eich donated $1,000 to the Proposition 8 campaign in California. Proposition 8 amended the California Constitution to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. In classic Communist fashion, gay rights organizations demanded that Eich publicly recant. When Eich did not, gay rights and other leftist organizations called for a boycott of Firefox. Firefox immediately forced Eich out. All these years, the left, after coining the term "McCarthyism" in order to disparage the right, had fooled most people into believing that it is the right that suppresses liberty. The truth, of course, has been the opposite. Worldwide, with the exception of Nazi Germany (which was a uniquely race-based totalitarianism, neither left nor right -- while it rejected Marxist class-based struggle, it supported socialism ("Nazism" was short for National Socialism), every genocidal totalitarian regime of the 20th century was leftist. And domestically, too, the left has much less interest in liberty than in forcing people to act in accord with its values. A totalitarian streak is part of the left's DNA. How you think matters and what you do away outside of work matters: More than 20 states prohibit judges from being leaders in the Boy Scouts -- because the left deems the Boy Scouts homophobic. During the McCarthy era, the left (and not only the left) screamed when people were falsely charged with supporting Stalin and Communism, one of the greatest evils in human history. But the left also screamed when people who really did aid and abet Stalin were dismissed from their jobs. In other words, for those on the left who celebrate Eich's ouster, it was evil to deprive a man who supported Stalin of a job, but it is right to fire a man who supports the man-woman definition of marriage. Such is the left's moral compass. It is important to further note that gay employees at Firefox acknowledge that Eich never discriminated against gays, whether in employment, benefits or any other way. But that doesn't matter to the left because a totalitarian streak is part of the left's DNA. As Princeton Professor of Jurisprudence Robert George warned on my radio show, today the left fires employees for opposition to same-sex marriage. Tomorrow it will fire employees who are pro-life ("anti-woman"). And next it will be employees who support Israel (an "apartheid state"). The reason to boycott Firefox is not that it is run by leftists. Nor is the reason to support the man-woman definition of marriage. It is solely in order to preserve liberty in the land of liberty. If Firefox doesn't recant and rehire Eich as CEO, McCarthyism will have returned far more pervasively and perniciously than in its first incarnation. The message the gay left (such as the Orwellian-named Human Rights Campaign) and the left in general wish to send is that Americans who are in positions of power at any company should be forced to resign if they hold a position that the left strongly opposes. And right now that position is opposition to same-sex marriage. Think about that. In the United States of America today, the belief that marriage should remain defined as the union of a man and woman is portrayed as so vile by the left that anyone who holds it is unfit for employment. A handful of those on the gay (and straight) left have spoken out against the forced resignation of Eich. If their words are to mean anything, they must join in the call to boycott Firefox. Otherwise, their protestations are meaningless, made solely to preserve their moral credibility. The battle over Firefox is the most important battle in America at this particular moment. If you use Firefox, uninstall it. Instead use Internet Explorer, Chrome, Opera, Safari, or try Pale Moon for Windows, which is based on the Firefox engine and will import all of your bookmarks. For mobile devices, you can try Puffin. America can have liberty or it can have Firefox. Right now, it cannot have both. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:36:32 2014, in response to Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Apr 8 13:18:56 2014. Prager is an anti-capitalist. Eich lost the confidence of his suppliers (namely his employees). So he quit for the good of his company.I personally think his suppliers were foolish to make a big deal of this. I've always had to work with people who held opinions that I strongly disagree with, and as long as they don't push their opinions in the workplace I can live with that. But what happened was an example of market forces at work. The market doesn't always act in good ways. What a surpirse! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:51:06 2014, in response to Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Apr 8 13:18:56 2014. Heh. You can have liberty OR you can have completely free open-source software. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Apr 8 14:11:45 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:36:32 2014. Prager is anti-capitalist? smh |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Apr 8 14:55:50 2014, in response to Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Apr 8 13:18:56 2014. a totalitarian streak is part of the left's DNA.Interesting observation. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 15:39:45 2014, in response to Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Apr 8 13:18:56 2014. how is it not important?Prager is highly intelligent and informative. He has a great radio show. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:44:16 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Apr 8 14:11:45 2014. Yep. He derides market forces. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 15:51:30 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:36:32 2014. Totalitarianism. That's what Prager is fighting against. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:52:54 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 15:51:30 2014. No. He's fighting against market forces that go awry. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 15:56:37 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 15:52:54 2014. he's fighting against a movement to make everyone part of the same political party. and if you disagree your livelihood can be taken just like that! that's what he's fighting against.It's the same reason I joined the buycott to support Whole Foods CEO vs. The Left. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:32:30 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 15:39:45 2014. It's not at all important thinking. It's fallacious. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:39:25 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 8 16:32:30 2014. Dennis Prager is an important thinker. He explains Leftism in an informative manner.This country is in trouble if you can lose employment for supporting conservative values. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 8 17:31:22 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 13:36:32 2014. EXACTLY. And the board knew all about his politics a LONG time ago. They didn't give a shit. Mozilla has made a number of very bad business decisions (his doing) as far as their patents, their volunteers, and now their product by turning it to shit. These are the reasons why he got bit on the ass.Nobody ASKED him to leave either, but they didn't want him making the decisions anymore. As a result of his battered ego, he resigned despite the board offering him a more lucrative position and letting someone with a bit more business sense run the place. He walked. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 8 17:34:33 2014, in response to Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Apr 8 13:18:56 2014. By all means, I highly encourage the right to abandon Firefox (don't forget to remove Thunderbird too, that's Mozilla also) and oh BTW ... Google Chrome? That's based on Mozilla too.But here's the reason why *I* think the right should run away from Firefox. Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, and most of the other browsers do NOT allow you to actually remove your surfing history. IE and Chrome actually archive it all for later use, and in the latter's case, we all know that google would never tattle on where you've been to anyone. ONLY Firefox' history, cache and cookie removals work and it doesn't archive your web surfing to such sites as stormfront or subchat. That makes NSA's job a little harder. So by all means, ditch that shit. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 8 17:43:32 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 16:39:25 2014. This country is in trouble if you can lose employment for supporting conservative values.People have been losing employment for supporting liberal values for the entire history of the United States. Just one example: the guy who got Stuyvesant Town integrated ended up having to move to Canada because he couldn't get a job in the US. Free markets can be pretty obnoxious sometimes. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 8 17:45:24 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 13:51:06 2014. I'll throw this in as a reply to you since you at least understand the technicals. The REASON why Eich had to be removed from the decisionmaking is mostly technical. Firefox has fallen WAY behind in supporting HTML5, WebM and upcoming "Web 2.0" features. Eich has been holding us coders back as far as those necessary improvements go because he's been beholden to Adobe and insisting on keeping FLASH as the primary multimedia plugin for that POS. Why? Because they were paying Mozilla to do so.Chrome, which was based on Mozilla along with bandaids of Apple's Webkit, came up with at least a somewhat firewalled PEPPER API stack to at least keep Flash somewhat safe while going full bore on HTML5 and WebM support as native code. Chrome though is a privacy nightmare and that's the reason why those of us still hanging on to the Mozilla project keep trying to get that resolved. Eich wanted no part of it and actually began becoming hostile to us coders who have been fighting him for a couple of years now over this. Mozilla then turned around and decided that they were going to sell advertising on their screens as of the new release which just came out. All factors considered, Firefox was going to die a quick death and Mozilla was forced into a decision - die in the marketplace or give Eich another job at higher pay where he wouldn't be able to do as much damage. Eich resigned. Conservative "reporters" really should do a little research before getting their shit wrong ... so sayeth the sages of subchat. :) |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Apr 8 17:48:10 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 15:56:37 2014. Or it's that market forces are weeding out the extremists and pulling them back toward the center. But if you want a socialist state where ideologues are given careers regardless of their demonstrated poor decision making skills, that's your problem. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Apr 8 18:25:53 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 8 17:45:24 2014. Chrome, which was based on Mozilla along with bandaids of Apple's Webkit, came up with at least a somewhat firewalled PEPPER API stack to at least keep Flash somewhat safe while going full bore on HTML5 and WebM support as native code.Exactly. Thank you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 8 19:36:52 2014, in response to Re: Uninstall Firefox Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 8 17:45:24 2014. The REASON why Eich had to be removed from the decisionmaking is mostly technicalLOL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 8 19:37:43 2014, in response to LUCH LUCH Re: Pope Francis Threatens Hell -- Hooray! Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'', posted by DAnD124 on Wed Mar 26 13:07:05 2014. Good way to admit your insanity. I guess. |
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