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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:19:23 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:11:53 2014.

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Mtk52983 ...thank you for making your points and pointing how the Olog-hai avoids the direct issues here. The baker can pick and choose who he/she wants to discriminate. The person does not have to be gay, they can be someone who the baker does not like because they don't follow their same beliefs.

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Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:19:54 2014, in response to Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 12:08:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I pwnd YOU as usual since you have nothing to say in response.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:22:23 2014, in response to Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:19:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! Still upset because you can't read these posts. That's funny.

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MORE PROF Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:22:43 2014, in response to Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 12:02:15 2014.

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he talks about the gaystopo

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:23:07 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:11:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I already said he could. If you couldn't see that, then you need to brush up on your reading comprehension, with all due respect.

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re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:23:17 2014, in response to , posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:22:23 2014.

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lol

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Re: HTML error

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:23:58 2014, in response to Re: HTML error, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 25 00:13:11 2014.

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It is true.......you just want to deny it is true. This is not just aimed at Gays, it is aimed at anyone a business wants to discriminate if the person violates the business owner's religious beliefs.

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:24:07 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:16:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! Off the topic, dandKKK.

Both of you failed at defining the phrase "right wing", BTW.

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Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:25:55 2014, in response to MORE PROF Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:22:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's someone else, psycho-fool.

But what would you call gay people that harass people because of their religious beliefs? There has to be a name for that. I'd be tempted to call them communistic, if it weren't for the fact that the USSR banned being gay謡hile in the "socialist" phase.

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dand124 is a homophobe

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:26:47 2014, in response to re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:23:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why do you hate gays so much?

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:28:04 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:19:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Way to miss the point.

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:28:05 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:23:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I see where you said the baker could refuse service to the LGBT person. The selective choosing of which religious beliefs to enforce and still claim protection highlights how the claim of religious freedom is a cover for discrimination against LGBT persons (which, while not unconstitutional as long as it does not involve fundamental rights, would look really bad if you said it directly)

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Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:29:01 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:25:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's someone else, psycho-fool.

liar

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 14:29:41 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:02:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hmm. It starts to get weird, doesn't it? Does the baker put up a sign that says: "Here is the list of sinful occasions whose celebration I cannot in good conscience participate in"?

And suppose "gay marriage" is a legitimate sinful occasion that the baker can exclude? Your point is, can the baker pick and choose? Another issue is how far can you push the list of sinful occasions? Can you say that the marriage of a Christian to a member of the Fundamentalist LDS Church is sinful? How about a Christian to a Jew?
And on and on.


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Re: HTML error

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:30:44 2014, in response to Re: HTML error, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Feb 25 14:07:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why would I work at a company that requires one to work on the Sabbath? That would be stupid!

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:32:01 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:14:44 2014.

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LOL!

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Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:33:40 2014, in response to Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:19:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're an idiot.

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Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:36:51 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:29:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Riight, nobody else could come up with a screen name like mine, Mr. Antwar.com. LOL!

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:38:52 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:28:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
False argument. How many gays are going to come along to a baker with certain religious beliefs every day asking for a wedding cake???

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:42:04 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:38:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
As soon as the first gay gets rejected word will spread and all other LGBT people would avoid that bakery (not to mention some heterosexuals too)

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 14:45:44 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:42:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Only if it's a Christian bakery. I don't know what the reaction would be if a Muslim bakery did this. I don't know.

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:46:46 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 14:45:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Of course we don't know. (Right?)

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:48:30 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:42:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps. Of course, we all remember the effectiveness of such boycotts . . . (right?)

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Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:49:14 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:36:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
it's not the screen name it's the content of your posts.

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Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:49:58 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Feb 25 14:49:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! They're a bit divergent between the two sites, aren't they? FAIL.

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Re: HTML error

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:50:13 2014, in response to Re: HTML error, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Feb 25 00:02:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wrong. The bank sure can force the loan officer. It can fire him.

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Re: HTML error

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:50:38 2014, in response to Re: HTML error, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 14:23:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No it's not true.

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Rush Limbaugh: NFL threatens Arizona: Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 14:52:04 2014, in response to Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law, posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 20 10:17:41 2014.

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Rush says the NFL will pull the 2015 Super Bowl from Arizona over this controversy.

NFL is quite the activist sports league.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh: NFL threatens Arizona: Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 14:58:35 2014, in response to Rush Limbaugh: NFL threatens Arizona: Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 14:52:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I would think that they have a signed contract for AZ at this point. They could get sued for hundreds of millions of dollars for breach. That wouldn't be good for their product.




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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Feb 25 15:01:14 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 14:45:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah. Here is The Honorable Yusuf Bey IV whose bakery staff gunned down Chauncey Bailey on a street corner in Oakland using heavy weapons.


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Re: HTML error

Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 15:01:56 2014, in response to Re: HTML error, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Feb 25 14:07:14 2014.

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The law requires employers to make "reasonable accommodation."

A 9-5 office might have trouble justifying requiring people to come in on Saturday. A retail store would have no problem at all insisting on it - the business requires it.


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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 15:02:56 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 21:14:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No I haven't. That's why I don't have an opinion over it.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh: NFL threatens Arizona: Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 15:05:33 2014, in response to Rush Limbaugh: NFL threatens Arizona: Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 14:52:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Apparently Roger Goodell has read the bill.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh: NFL threatens Arizona: Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 25 15:10:42 2014, in response to Re: Rush Limbaugh: NFL threatens Arizona: Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law, posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 14:58:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm sure they have clauses regarding things like this. The NFL had previously awarded Super Bowl XXVII to Arizona, but pulled it. IINM, not this close to the date of the game.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 25 15:15:52 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 15:02:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You should. It's neither long nor difficult to understand.

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 15:18:24 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Feb 25 15:01:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Two teens arrested for killing someone in Lakeland.

No leads on the Brandenton shooting.

It's a warzone. You're smart for avoiding the Sunshine State. You're smart in general.



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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 15:19:54 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 25 15:15:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you have a link?

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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 15:27:56 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 15:18:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Take a look at those two threads about Florida women calling 911 for frivolous reasons.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 15:30:05 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 21:14:28 2014.

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This thread is full of all that. But if the cases in Oregon and Colorado were missed, Google isn't too far away. One judge ruled that it is a "civil right" to harass Christians; the one in Oregon.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 25 15:44:37 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 15:19:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/sb1062p.pdf

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 15:46:24 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 25 15:44:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thank you. I will be reading it now.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 16:04:16 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 25 15:44:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, I read it. that law can open up a can of worms, it justifies discrimination. I hope governor Brewer vetos it.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:05:22 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 16:04:16 2014.

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Where does it justify discrimination?

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 16:08:19 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:05:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Read it.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:09:20 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 16:08:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I did. What are you referring to? You should have been able to give a line number or two.

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Re: MORE PROF Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY,

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:11:55 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:25:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you really Don't want Gays to have the same liberties as heterosexuals in American society even though heterosexuals commit the sins as well and are not discriminated against. This is all Nazi rhetoric using religion to promote hate, much in the same way in Nazi Germany.

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Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:12:54 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:36:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
NO ONE WOULD WANT YOUR DIRTY-ASS SCREEN NAME.....ASSCLOWN!

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Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:13:46 2014, in response to Re: MORE PROF Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY,, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:11:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The Nazis didn't use religion to go after gays, streetcarnazi.

And it seems you want gays to have the right to harass people over their religious views. Which is an anti-gay viewpoint.

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Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:14:16 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:49:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
STOP LYING FOR ONCE IN YOUR DIRTY-ASS LIFE. YOU KNOW YOU WROTE IT........YOU LIVE TO POST SUCH FILTH.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:15:04 2014, in response to Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:12:54 2014.

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LOL, someone certainly did, streetcarnazi.

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