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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 13:12:03 2014, in response to The Bias Against Black Bodies, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 21 11:44:57 2014.

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Sorry, but I'm never going to call black holes anything else (not even "grey holes" like Stephen Hawking suddenly wants to call them), and I'm not going to call black body radiation anything else either.

Why is Charles M. Blow biased against physics?

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Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 21 13:12:47 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 12:54:27 2014.

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Excellent point and it won't make the Ology thread.

w1n4u

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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 13:18:52 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 13:12:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why is Charles M. Blow biased against physics?

Is that a joke?




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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 13:23:38 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 21 12:18:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is why I am saying Chris has no evidence for his claim.


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Re: Why is Olog-hai so Anti-Black?

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 21 13:42:30 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 13:12:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why are you so anti-African-American? eh? try digging yourself out of that one...little man.

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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 21 13:43:23 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 13:18:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No.....as a White man.....he is in fear of the truth about his people and what they do to African-Americans in America.

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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 13:49:49 2014, in response to Re: Why is Olog-hai so Anti-Black?, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Feb 21 13:42:30 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm anything but anti-black. I'm extremely pro-black. People like Charles M. Blow are anti-black; he hates the idea of black people living happy, normal lives and wants them to be in constant turmoil.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 13:50:21 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 21 12:14:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's possible, but why would they not charge them with DUI if they could? Especially if there are more serious crimes involved?

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 13:51:07 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 21 12:16:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There's no evidence for that given.


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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 13:51:52 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 21 12:16:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Partly, so you are saying all public lawyers hired by the government are incompetent?

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 13:52:27 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 13:51:07 2014.

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???

I don't think you read what he wrote.


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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 13:52:49 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 21 12:18:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The arrests are the stats we have. I am sure we can get conviction stats too. You are tying to propose the hypothetical.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:01:12 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 13:52:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Of course I did. He's claiming that whites don't get arrested for crimes as much as Blacks do for their crimes. That is not evident from the stats.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 14:16:22 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:01:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He's claiming that whites don't get arrested for crimes as much as Blacks do for their crimes.

No he's not. He's claiming whites don't get arrested as much (per capita) as blacks.





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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:17:35 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 14:16:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That implies that you are trying to assume that they commit crimes they are NOT arrested for. There are no stats on that.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 14:29:05 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:17:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No.

(Total annual arrests of blacks)/(Total number of blacks) >

(Total annual arrests of whites)/(Total number of whites)

It's that simple.


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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 21 14:35:23 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 14:29:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
For God's sake, what a pointless argument. Can't the actual numbers be obtained from, ya know, the Internet?

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 14:43:28 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 21 14:35:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm not arguing about the numbers. I'm arguing about language. When someone says something clear it shouldn't be misinterpreted.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:44:54 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 14:29:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
????

It's already been established that Blacks are arrested at a higher rate than whites, which in theory means they commit more crimes. We already established that there are about 5 whites for every Black, yet the arrest rate for Blacks is a little more than half that of whites, even though whites are so much more prevalent in the population. Are you trying to say that whites don't get arrested for crimes they commit as much? As that is the only thing left in this diversion of yours that can be left, and NO there are no stats for that given.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:47:41 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 14:43:28 2014.

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Everyone but you with a stick up your.....knew what I meant. You like the diversion though, as you also know what was meant without the word humping you have done this whole thread.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 21 14:49:31 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:47:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You haven't provided any real numbers either, so get over yourself.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 14:54:40 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 21 14:49:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I provided the stats that show the Demographics of whites vs Blacks in Florida are about 5 to 1 in favor of whites. JayZee provided the arrest numbers showing Blacks at a rate of just over half vs whites, even though they are only 1 in 5 compared to whites.
What other stats would you like, as I haven't claimed anything else other than that.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 21 15:04:12 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 11:57:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You guys are hilarious. Chris, the issue is that you kept calling it "crimes" when JayZeeBMT's stats are apparently only about arrests. Arrests do not equal crimes or convictions, which are two separate things besides arrests.

AlM, you know what he meant. He often gets these words confused, just like JayZeeBMT refuses to acknowledge that "per capita" is the relevant stat, not the raw numbers.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 21 15:07:10 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Feb 20 22:24:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
JayZeeBMT, every time this comes up you screw it up. What gives? As a reporter, you should know all about "per capita" and also the difference between arrests vs. Crimes vs. Convictions.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 15:10:42 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 21 15:04:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I know what he meant. But what he said was wrong. It's that simple.






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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 15:39:08 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 15:10:42 2014.

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You know what I meant, that's the whole point. And as TS mentioned, JayZee consistently "forgets" to consider per capita.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 16:07:51 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 21 15:39:08 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, and even when I actually quoted the words to you, you still didn't read them to see that you didn't mean what you actually said.


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Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 21 17:06:04 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ''Turn Away The Gays'' law, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 15:10:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But because you knew what he meant, you could have simply corrected him and explained it to him instead of confusing him and driving him crazy all day. Unlike some others here, Chris is intelligent and wasn't trying to troll or disregard what he was being told.

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Re: UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve ''Turn Away The Gays Bill''

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 14:51:46 2014, in response to UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve "Turn Away The Gays Bill", posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 20 21:19:23 2014.

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Why would you move?

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Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 14:56:19 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 13:49:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well folks.....you read it loud and clear....from the "educated" dumbass....Olog-hai. When does it all end from the insane man...Olog-hai? Here's one big lie:

"I'm anything but anti-black."

This is coming from Olog-hai, a White man's perspective:

"People like Charles M. Blow are anti-black; he hates the idea of black people living happy, normal lives and wants them to be in constant turmoil."





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Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Feb 24 15:07:07 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law, posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 20 13:09:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Have you read the bill?

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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:22:22 2014, in response to Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 14:56:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Stop lying. As an anti-racist, that's the last thing I deny. The source of that racism is what people like you deny, since you're a racist.

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Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 15:46:17 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:22:22 2014.

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"The source of that racism is what people like you deny, since you're a racist. "

I don't deny that you're a bigot in disguise. As for me being a racist, that's farest from the truth.

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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:48:02 2014, in response to Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 15:46:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Disguise? LOL . . . bigots can't hide what they are, just like you can't hide your bigotry. Bigots also tend to defend other bigots, such as Blow, who wants to keep his own people down.

Bet you didn't know that the first man to keep slaves as lifetime chattel in the USA was a black man.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:50:58 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes gay discrimination law, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Feb 24 15:07:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bet he hasn't. Looks like he's OK with gays attacking people over their religious beliefs though.

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Re:OLOG-HAI is anti-gay

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 15:51:39 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 12:47:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Gays have to stop discriminating against people who disagree with how they want to live. That's it."

So you now agree with the rest that gays should live in a ghetto......wow......that sounds frightfully familiar when the Nazis used religious anti-Semetic rhetoric against the Jews in Europe.


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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:52:36 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 13:18:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's as much of a joke as Mr. Blow wants to make it. Just like John Wiley Price and his tirade against the phrase "black hole".

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Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:54:29 2014, in response to Re:OLOG-HAI is anti-gay, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 15:51:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you now agree with the rest that gays should live in a ghetto

Rest of whom? You just pulled that out of your ass.

I see you say nothing about forcing religious people to go against their beliefs and themselves live in a ghetto. You're the one being the Nazi here, streetcarNazi.

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Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 16:00:22 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:48:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Bigots also tend to defend other bigots, such as Blow, who wants to keep his own people down."


POINTING OUT BIAS IN AMERICAN SOCIETY DOES NOT KEEP PEOPLE DOWN. ON THE CONTRARYY, IT SUPPORTS THE ELEMENT TO DESTROY THE RACISM THAT EXIST IN AMERICA. YOU AND OTHERS WANT TO DENY THAT RACISM EXISTS.

"Bet you didn't know that the first man to keep slaves as lifetime chattel in the USA was a black man."

THAT SORT OF STATEMENT PROVES WHERE YOU LEAN! YOU LEAN SQUARELY WITH THE RACISTS JUST ON MAKING THAT POINT.



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Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 24 16:01:30 2014, in response to Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 16:00:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
have you been to VIP Pizza on Bell Blvd? I wonder if it's still high quality?

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Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 17:01:54 2014, in response to Re: Olog-hai DENIES there exist racism against Blacks in America, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 24 16:01:30 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No......many years ago...yes....lol....even though it is right down the block from me. I am so afraid that place will go like the rest of the pizza shops in that part of northeastern Queens.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes "NAZI" law

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 17:04:31 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:50:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Looks like he's OK with gays attacking people over their religious beliefs though."

So you agree now with the NAZIS that are in control of the state govenment in Arizona. NO gay person is deying anyone the right to believe in what they want. The others on the right-side of politics want to DENY others the right to live the way they want.

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Re: UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve ''Turn Away The Gays Bill''

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 18:44:20 2014, in response to Re: UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve ''Turn Away The Gays Bill'', posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 14:51:46 2014.

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LOL

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Re: UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve ''Turn Away The Gays Bill''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 24 18:48:55 2014, in response to Re: UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve ''Turn Away The Gays Bill'', posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 24 18:44:20 2014.

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IAWTLOL

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Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 21:14:28 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes 覧覧 law, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 24 15:50:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Have YOU? Certainly seems like something worth plenty of HTML tags.

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Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 24 21:18:10 2014, in response to Re: The Bias of Charles M. Blow, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 21 13:18:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps Olog's observation there has something to do with hydrated magnesium sulfate. :)

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AC vs. Sen. Melvin Re: Arizona Senate Passes 'Turn Away The Gays' Law

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 24 21:55:41 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 12:47:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hmmm. Are you sure, Olog, that you aren't really Arizona State Senator Al Melvin? He obfuscates, changes subjects, and deflects just like you do here on OTC. Here's Anderson Cooper trying to get Melvin to speak some truth, while Melvin dodges and weaves:



Part 2:





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Re: Arizona Senate passes religious fascism law

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Feb 24 22:01:51 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 21 12:47:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
NO Jesus, KNOW peace
KNOW Jesus, NO peace

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Re: UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve ''Turn Away The Gays Bill''

Posted by TonyG on Mon Feb 24 22:35:59 2014, in response to Re: UPDATE: Both Houses of Arizona Legislature approve ''Turn Away The Gays Bill'', posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 24 14:51:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Because I want to raise a family, and I'm not going to raise my family in a hate filled state.

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Re: Arizona Senate passes___________law

Posted by The Silence on Mon Feb 24 23:29:28 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes "Turn Away The Gays" law, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Feb 20 15:12:26 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And you think it's ok for the government to force someone to ignore his or her religious beliefs for the sake of inclusion?

Read that and tell me how many times you see the word "Gay"

People live their lives, including how they do business, by what they believe in. And if they believe in something strong enough that would rather loose the potential income than deal with something outside their beliefs, what right do you or anyone else have to punish them for it?

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