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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:52:26 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:47:17 2014. Republicans, once upon a time, weren't assholes. Nor did they have a God complex. They looked out to PRESERVE America rather than tearing it up, selling it off to the lowest bidder. Your ilk only wants to trash things out of the anger that permeates you. That's NOT "conservative" at all ... that's lynch mob. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:53:56 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:52:26 2014. Let me guess, you are against school prayer? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:54:11 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:50:15 2014. When was the post it note invented? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:54:12 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:40:05 2014. Cut out the lies, I still find it very hard to believe you were ever Repubican. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:54:13 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:35:28 2014. Caught you again. You ALWAYS was a liberal |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:58:47 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:48:58 2014. There's no such thing. That too is a fabrication.The old testament was a good thing. But in time, it justified guilt and vengeance. That went against the teachings Jesus provided. Sadly, over the next couple of hundred years, people and even the church reverted to the old ways and tried to justify caveman behavior by perverting those teachings. Call me what you want, but I attended seminary. I got to see things that many don't and studied. I learned what those teachings actually mean, and I live by them daily. Like I said, call me what you want, matters not to me. I have my faith, I'll live by it, and won't impose it on anyone else. But I *will* talk about why I believe what I do and it's fine whether it's accepted or ridiculed. Matters not to me. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:00:45 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:52:03 2014. I'll point you to this particular historical because it captures the essence of what happens when you fuck up what you intended to do and actually create something useful that wasn't your intention to begin with. Enjoy!http://www.vat19.com/brain-candy/accidental-inventions-post-it-notes.cfm |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:01:48 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:58:47 2014. I respect you for the non conformist you are. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:03:03 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:53:56 2014. Yes ... I am against ANY *organized* religion outside of schul, church, pagoda, temple, mosque, whatever. The United States of America was founded by people who felt that religion is between you and GOD, not you and the government. They were pretty adamant about that too. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:04:30 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:01:48 2014. I actually conform very well to my principles as I was brought up and taught. I do NOT conform to the demands of Mammon. That's just me. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:12:36 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 21 18:58:43 2014. Different people believe in different gods. DeLay does not worship the same God you do. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Feb 22 01:15:00 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 00:34:48 2014. Eh, JeffyLoob was a fairly rational poster right up until Hillary was trounced in the primaries. He may very well be patient zero for ODS.I keep wondering if he'll rediscover sanity once Obama is out of office, or if he's too far gone. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:16:17 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:27:41 2014. "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."And the Torah does not say "do not kill." It says "do not murder." You are once again parroting Christian beliefs and pretending that they're Jewish because you don't know any better and you buy into the "Judeo-Christian" canard. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:17:05 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:48:58 2014. NO SUCH THING! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:17:55 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:24:56 2014. Not ours. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:18:17 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:03:03 2014. You do agree that OUR founding fathers were G-d loving Christians. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:20:23 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 00:53:56 2014. And you are in favor of school prayer?If they implemented school prayer, they wouldn't be davening shacharis. They would be praying to the Christian God. But this doesn't bother you because you know nothing about your supposed religion and you believe in the "Judeo-Christian" canard. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:20:26 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:12:36 2014. My G-d's name is Hashem. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Feb 22 01:20:43 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:18:17 2014. i'm starting to not believe you're jewish |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:21:04 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:12:36 2014. We're STILL trying to figure out which one on OUR side as well ... so far, republicans are only making TELEVANGELIST God happy. :(
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:21:53 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by WillD on Sat Feb 22 01:15:00 2014. Obamacare covers mentals now. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:22:19 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:18:17 2014. That is also false. They were deists who believed that a god creating the universe but had no further effect on the universe. They were the 18th century equivalent of atheists.You are brainwashed by right-wing lies. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:22:49 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by DAnD124 on Sat Feb 22 01:20:43 2014. IAWTP. He seems like a so-called "Jew for Jesus." |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:23:05 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:22:19 2014. Masons! Most of them ... :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:23:29 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:16:17 2014. Christianity is based on Judaism. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:25:49 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:22:19 2014. Whom of our founding fathers were atheists? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:27:51 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:20:26 2014. LOL! No it's not. And now I'm thinking it's not because "the name" is not His name, but that YHWH is not actually your god. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:28:01 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:22:49 2014. I am not a so called Jews for Jesus. They are not Jewish. That doesn't mean I don't disrespect Christians. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:28:34 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:22:19 2014. Whom of our founding fathers were atheists? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:28:35 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:16:17 2014. Christianity is based on Judaism. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:28:36 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:12:36 2014. My G-d's name is Hashem. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:28:38 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:03:03 2014. You do agree that OUR founding fathers were G-d loving Christians. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:29:07 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:23:05 2014. Religious people can be Masons. In fact, belief in a higher power is a prerequisite for joining them. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:30:47 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:27:51 2014. Interesting, I got to look that up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:31:52 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:25:49 2014. Did you even read my post?Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin and Thomas Paine were all deists. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:32:08 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:31:52 2014. So was Abraham Lincoln. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Feb 22 01:32:24 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:23:29 2014. so is Islam |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:32:37 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:28:38 2014. They were largely ambivalent having seen what happened to their fellow citizens over in England. Why do you think they came over here and specifically wrote the Constitution to keep religion the hell OUT of government in the first place?Stop being spoonfed by the televangelist party ... look it up for yourself. They weren't PRO-Christian or Anti-Christian. They recognized that there were NUMEROUS other religions that emigrated here in the beginning and speicifically wrote the Constitution to just leave everybody alone and ensure that the government would NEVER favor *ANY* religion or Jews wouldn't be welcome here at all being SO far away from your definition of "God-fearing" ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:34:24 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:32:37 2014. I should clarify that "your" means "republican idea of God" ... if you're not a Southern Baptist or cult member, then you ain't shit. It's LIKE that down in Jesusland ... suggest you visit the party core part of the US and see what they think of YOUR religion. You're right down there with Catholics and Black people as far as they're concerned. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:34:56 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:31:52 2014. They were? I got to do some research. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:35:01 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:23:29 2014. And Islam is based is on Christianity and Judaism.And Judaism is influenced by Zoroastrianism. Why don't you consider yourself Zoroastro-Jewish? Or Judeo-Christo-Islamic? Because like "Judeo-Christian," none of those make sense. "Judeo-Christian" is an early version of "Jews for Jesus" where Christians attempt to show ignorant Jews like you that their religion is the next step after Judaism and that you should convert. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:35:42 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:29:07 2014. Absolutely ... but they did NOT pick a religion and what they're really after (I've been invited BTW) is "are you MORAL enough to meet our standards?" They're not particularly religious once you're in. LOTS of Masons around here. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:35:46 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:28:01 2014. Yet you are so desperate to live in a Christian theocracy. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:37:10 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:35:01 2014. Ding!We're sending out a mitzvah tank in yer honor. :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:37:55 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:35:01 2014. I'm trying my best to be cordial to you, I really don't appreciate the insults. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:39:02 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:31:52 2014. They were? I got to do some research. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:39:28 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:37:55 2014. I consider "Judeo-Christian" to be offensive. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:40:07 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:37:55 2014. FWIW though, he IS right about the intentions of those who you look up to among the "party of God" ... you've GOT to be "saved" in order to earn the respect of the evangelicals - otherwise Armageddon is your reward. I found that completely unacceptable back in 1980 and THAT is why I am no longer a republican. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:42:17 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 22 01:39:28 2014. Fine. I'm trying to be nice to you, but you're not in return. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 22 01:43:12 2014, in response to Re: Republicans double down on their Christian nation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 22 01:40:07 2014. Goodnight sir. Peace. |
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