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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 14 15:29:04 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 14:12:34 2014.

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hmm..i don't think so.

I've looked...and it DOES appear that a number of you attack her continuously..
She does an excellent job of holding her own..

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 16:32:04 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 14 15:29:04 2014.

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 14 16:35:43 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 16:32:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL!
TRUTH!

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:07:03 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 12 17:32:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Here's my hypothesis on what might REALLY have been the issue that set the whole Bridgegate scandal rolling. More than a few NJ insiders I spoke to while working on this item, found my theory plausible, given how allergic Christie was to the very thought of marriage equality...

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:16:11 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 14 15:29:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I've had no problem with her until recently, when it became obvious that facts are meaningless to her.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:17:49 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:07:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What is so wrong with voter referendum?

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 14 17:28:24 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:17:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why should your basic human rights be determined by what a majority of voters (which in itself is usually a small subset of the voting age population) decide? Could a state put up a referendum saying that Jews are forbidden to marry non-Jews and it be enforceable if a majority of the voters voted in favor of it?

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:29:54 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 14 17:28:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is PRECISELY the reason why I oppose it too.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:32:55 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:07:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Definitely deserves a bit more looking into ... I'm sure I don't have to tell you that those who are so obsessed with the issue most likely have their OWN issues, to most others, it's not anything to really be concerned about one way or the other. I'll just leave this there. :)

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:33:48 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:16:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh. Opinions are not facts. If opinions were guided by cold hard facts, we wouldn't need a government.

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 17:37:32 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 13 19:03:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I live in Riverdale but work out in Eastchester. A lot of the clientele is from Yonkers. More Republicans there than you might imagine.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:38:40 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:32:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I told you earlier, this is just a runaway train of a scandal, and I would not be the least bit surprised if my theory of this whole mess is eventually borne out. In New Jersey, NOTHING is too crazy!

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 17:38:40 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 13 23:02:40 2014.

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Good explanations, SMAZ!

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 14 17:38:53 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 17:37:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
thanks for your reply.

looking at voting results, Staten Island voted Republican. Middle Village too. Why? Lots of Italians. We're good Republicans.

CHIMM is right.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:39:21 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 14 17:28:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
First of all, if it were to have come up for a referendum, I would vote yes. Having said that, I do see the pros and cons of it, and do equate it with racial descrimination is beyond far fetched.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:39:43 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:38:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised either. There's something wholly unnatural about a state that thinks their own citizens are too stupid to pump their own damned gas. :)

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:40:53 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 17:38:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Now if only we could get Ronzoni and Buitoni to agree on the same numbers. Are either of those still in business? :)

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:41:37 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:07:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
While one can't say for certain that you are right because it's just speculation, I think your story is more plausible than the common narrative of punishing the mayor of Fort Lee.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jan 14 17:42:07 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:39:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Problem there is, for the majority, that government's *correct*. They ARE too stupid to pump their own gas.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:42:23 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:41:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I should add that I don't mean "speculation" in any negative way.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:43:04 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:39:21 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How is it far-fetched?

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 14 17:44:03 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:07:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There are more issues than gay marriage at stake when judicial appointments/nominations are fought over. I kinda doubt Christie is all that anti-gay; I mean would you want to piss off at least half the chefs in the state? :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 17:44:13 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:40:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ha! Ronzoni is still around, but owned by some conglomerate. Don't see Buitoni around. Barilla is the big name after Ronzoni.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:48:43 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:39:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Really? They dont have self serve at the pump?

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:51:04 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 14 17:38:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well Thank you.

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:51:38 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 17:44:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I remember back when I lived in the city, I'd toss Buitoni in the water and it'd turn gray. Yick. :)

Yeah, pasta maker, semolina, add oil, water and egg, crank it up and dry it on a wood rack. Now THERE'S pasta!

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:52:41 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:43:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Homosexuality is against orthodox Jewish teachings. I suppose they are all bigots?

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:53:33 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 14 17:44:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Trust me on this, Christie is a RABID homophobe. He was INCENSED when the legislature dared to send him the bill legalizing gay marriage. He has been, even before getting elected Governor, an outspoken opponent of LGBT rights. Christie, as I noted in my article, was all set to amend the state constitution to define marriage in New Jersey as "solely between a man and a woman".

He was definitely trying to pack the courts with judges who would keep marriage off the table--that's a known fact. Whether that played a major role in Bridgegate, is something I want to get people thinking about.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:55:23 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:48:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's illegal there. This is the state's official motto:



Now what was that I was saying about them red states? :)

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:57:22 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:41:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Several NJ lawmakers actually agree with you. It's still a Fort Lee thing, but as many Democratic mayors didn't endorse Christie, it seems strange that Sokolich would be singled out among them for retribution. The judiciary fights between Christie and the Senate seem to have more meat to them than a non-endorsement from a small town mayor. Gay marriage is a highly radioactive issue for His Corpulence, and always has been.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 14 17:58:02 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:07:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
interesting article.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:58:36 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:55:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well as a liberal, wouldn't you against self serve? All those unskilled labor jobs.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 18:00:15 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:39:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You have NO idea. I was in Brooklyn with Delvon, who was driving, and we pulled into a gas station to fill up. Delvon, a New Jerseyan, kept honking the horn, expecting somebody to come out and pump his gas...I had to tell him, "You are NOT in New Jersey any more!"...LOL!

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 18:01:57 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:58:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You really have no idea what liberalism means.

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 18:05:00 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:33:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What opinions? She claimed as fact things that were completely 100% bullshit.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 18:15:27 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 17:07:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
given how allergic Christie was to the very thought of marriage equality

Which Christie is that? Not the one that stopped "fighting" it back in October, surely?

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 18:15:50 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:52:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Homosexuality is against orthodox Jewish teachings.

So is eating pork. Should all orthodox Jews support laws banning the sale of pork in the US?




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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 18:19:36 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 18:15:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Christie stopped fighting gay marriage in October on the advice of the AG, who told him it was a losing proposition, not worth the cost of taking it any further. But Christie ran on an anti-gay platform in 2009.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:25:40 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 17:58:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm a liberal and you're a conservative. LOL!

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:27:18 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 18:00:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh. I'll bet he expected his tires to get checked too. :)

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:29:00 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 18:05:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And it makes you crazy which is why she keeps doing it. :)

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 18:36:26 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 18:15:50 2014.

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PWN3D!

Thanks.

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 18:40:22 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:29:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It doesn't make me crazy, I just like to argue.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 18:43:57 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:25:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thats answering the question?

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 14 18:45:29 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 17:16:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
no..like you said..it brings you pleasure to "argue".

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:47:18 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 18:40:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I've noticed ... that's why you're still on my "A list" ... :)

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 18:47:54 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 17:51:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sounds good. I never tried a pasta maker.

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Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:47:54 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Did Gay Marriage Set Off Bridge Scandal?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 14 18:43:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
As close as it's gonna get. You keep thinking I'm a lib ... if we can't get past that, then no answer will do. :)

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Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:49:13 2014, in response to Re: Christie caught red-handed and EMT's Delayed at GWB?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 14 18:45:29 2014.

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And I'm good with that. :)

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Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 14 18:51:51 2014, in response to Re: The plot sickens: Who Was Smiling During Christie's Traffic Jam?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 18:47:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Avoid the cheapass plastic ones, the amount of heat generated with extruding warps them, and the pressures involved using real semolina break them. You're forced to use flour just to keep the pressure down and you end up with Ronzoni after all that work.

The really good all steel ones will set you back more than you'll ever save by making your own, but the difference in quality is SO worth it.

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