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Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 13:01:12 2013

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A very unfortunate decision for state that is supposed to be a beacon of religious freedom among its religiously intolerant neighbors.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 13:19:27 2013, in response to Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 13:01:12 2013.

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I wouldn't have minded if they had allowed the pagan symbol, but Jews in Israel have more dire reason than most not to honor a symbol of Christian idolotry. Many if not most Jews living in Israel are there because of the huge dose of Christian love and tolerance they received over centuries.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 13:53:21 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 13:19:27 2013.

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That's not going to go over very well with the evangelicals over here and will be seen as the "war on Christmas" given that those words already are taken as meaning Jews down south. :(

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 14:05:41 2013, in response to Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 13:01:12 2013.

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When the Vatican puts a Menorah in St. Peter's Square on Hanukkah, then Israel will put up a tree in the Knesset.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 14:22:19 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 14:05:41 2013.

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+1


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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 23 14:24:30 2013, in response to Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 13:01:12 2013.

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Israel's a Jewish state, not a Christian country.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 23 14:35:43 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 14:05:41 2013.

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It's for the Christians who live in Israel, not those who live worldwide. The Vatican has nothing to do with this, unless you want Pope Frankie to say some words :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 15:06:38 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 13:53:21 2013.

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Ah, I get it now. Jews should put up Christmas trees in Israel to keep Mike Huckabee from accusing them of making War on Christmas. OK. Sounds fair. Now what should Jews do to counter the accusation that we baked little Hugh of Lincoln into our matzohs?

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 15:13:33 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 15:06:38 2013.

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oops ... sorry Selkoik. I meant to add an lol … here ya' go … LOL!

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 23 15:42:27 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 14:05:41 2013.

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+0!

Israel is a secular government. The Vatican is not.

That having been said, I don't really disagree with you. 0!=1.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 23 15:45:58 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 14:05:41 2013.

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They actually have for many years now. It's not as likely you'll see it during Papal coverage this year, as the two holidays dates were not even clse to convergent this year, but rest assured they have been doing that for at 10 years that I can remeber back to seeing one.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 23 15:51:10 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 23 15:45:58 2013.

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From you we'll need PROFF.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 16:04:32 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 23 15:51:10 2013.

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It would be very easy for the Vatican to put out THE menorah if they wanted to, but I want to see proof, too.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Dave on Mon Dec 23 17:02:29 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 14:05:41 2013.

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+1

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 17:16:01 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 16:04:32 2013.

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And thrown in the Ark of the Covenant while they're at it.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 17:16:02 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 16:04:32 2013.

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And thrown in the Ark of the Covenant while they're at it.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 17:18:28 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 23 14:35:43 2013.

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There are plenty of Jews in Rome. Why can't the Vatican put up a Menorah to honor them? While its true that the Vatican operates as its own city-state, don't tell me that it doesn't rely on Rome for basic operations, such as electric, sewer, water...

I personally believe that a tree is OK, because its not a Christian symbol, its a pagan symbol that the early Church fathers borrowed.



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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 23 17:21:29 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 17:18:28 2013.

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The Vatican is a purely religious state. While the State of Israel has a foundation in religion, it is a secular state. So the analogy doesn't hold. On the other hand, I don't see any real reason for the Knesset to put up a tree either.


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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 23 17:29:53 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 17:18:28 2013.

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I'll bet if they asked, the Pope would accede, and without requiring payment in kind from Israel. But that's just how Frankie rolls :)

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 23 17:31:28 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 17:18:28 2013.

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While its true that the Vatican operates as its own city-state, don't tell me that it doesn't rely on Rome for basic operations, such as electric, sewer, water

. . . and lots of European countries depend on Russia for gas and oil.

What do you mean by this?

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 23 17:32:26 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 17:16:01 2013.

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They don't possess that.

Last reliable historical report puts that artifact in Ireland, under the Hill of Tara.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Dec 23 18:20:34 2013, in response to Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 13:01:12 2013.

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Well it is a Jewish nation.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 18:28:45 2013, in response to Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 13:01:12 2013.

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good.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:29:37 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 15:13:33 2013.

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No prob ... :)

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 23 18:31:46 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 23 17:21:29 2013.

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I read that Christians make up 2% of Israel's population. Pretty thin.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:35:07 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 15:06:38 2013.

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Wait a minute ... that was Hugh of Lincoln? Tasted more like Henny Youngman, and just as bland. :)

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:39:51 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 16:04:32 2013.

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It's very small, so let's see who can spot it. :)



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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 18:48:16 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:39:51 2013.

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HAHA!!

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Dec 23 19:07:03 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:39:51 2013.

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It is actually a decent sized Menorah behind the railing on the left.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 23 19:11:16 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:39:51 2013.

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Don't tell these people. They'll add it to their list of outrages.

http://www.traditio.com/nos.htm
http://www.novusordowatch.org/


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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 19:22:42 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 23 19:11:16 2013.

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Yay!

Hippie Mass in the first link.


and "Mr. Bergoglio happily participating in the sacred rite of a false religion" in the second.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 19:33:45 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:35:07 2013.

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Bland? Don't you know Jewish food is oversalted?

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 19:40:23 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 19:33:45 2013.

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what's Jewish food?

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 23 19:43:23 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 14:05:41 2013.

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Not the moral equivalent you moron. God you're stupid for someone who's "supposed to be smart".

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 23 19:43:25 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:39:51 2013.

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Looks like 2 of them, the one on the right is obscured by the vegetation.


your pal,
Fred

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 23 19:44:34 2013, in response to Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 23 13:01:12 2013.

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Not sure I'd consider this a "snub".

Just more stupidity by people looking to be offended.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 23 19:45:30 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 23 19:43:23 2013.

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Why is Mitch45 supposed to be smart?

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 19:47:05 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 23 19:44:34 2013.

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yeah, people like you.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 23 19:48:24 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 19:47:05 2013.

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SMAZZA, I'm not offended and don't see this as a snub.

I don't support government displays of any religion in this country anyway.

SMAZZA. You should go back to LGCC for fun.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 20:59:09 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 23 17:32:26 2013.

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That sounds like a bunch of blarney to me.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 23 23:42:43 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 23 20:59:09 2013.

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It's the best we're getting. Brought there by the prophet Jeremiah himself too.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 23:59:27 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 23 19:33:45 2013.

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Heh. Henny had no salt. Musta been pareve. :)

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 24 00:02:18 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 18:48:16 2013.

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If Lion can play hide the stuffed lion on the main board, then I get to play "hide the menorrah" on OT. Win-win! :)

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 24 00:03:02 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Dec 23 19:07:03 2013.

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That was a "lion in hiding" joke. :)

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 24 00:03:31 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 23 19:22:42 2013.

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I was wondering where Olog went. :)

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 24 00:05:18 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 23 19:43:25 2013.

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Good eyeball there, son! :)

But I only needed one to "w1n" this thread, so go away. Heh.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 24 00:05:46 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:39:51 2013.

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Well ... "proff provided" and we're having crickets for supper. Heh.

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 24 00:12:55 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 23 19:45:30 2013.

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Because you're here and that makes him so. :)

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Dec 24 02:19:52 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 23 18:39:51 2013.

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Interesting...

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Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 24 02:38:08 2013, in response to Re: Knesset Speaker Snubs Israeli Christian Population, Refuses to Put Up Tree, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Dec 24 02:19:52 2013.

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Well ... sure don't want to piss on other people's propaganda. After all, 'tis the season to hate because that seems to be what folks prefer. In the meantime, we're gonna crack the egg nog, smile and celebrate because life CAN be good if only people were willing to get off their shit. :)

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