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Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 18:45:39 2013, in response to Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 20 18:41:05 2013. Obviously an activist judge. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 20 18:51:49 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 18:45:39 2013. No, a judge who understands the law. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 19:01:17 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 20 18:51:49 2013. Utah is a very religious state. If there was ever a voter referendum, it would be shot down big time. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 20 19:08:49 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 19:01:17 2013. If there were ever a referendum in most States, you'd be forced to pray to Jesus. That's why our Founders separated Church and State. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 19:15:49 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 20 19:08:49 2013. I am talking about a referendum on gay marriage. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 20 20:25:04 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 19:15:49 2013. IT NEVER WILL HAPPEN, too many states have already done it. BTW, religions don't have to do it if they don't do it. I predict eventually all the states will eventually do it. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Dec 20 20:33:21 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 18:45:39 2013. And probably not a Mormon! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 20 20:33:42 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 20 20:25:04 2013. even in georgia ? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 20 20:36:03 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 20 20:33:42 2013. Eventually all the states will allow gay marriage. Take a look what states already do it. The world did not end. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 20 20:48:00 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Dec 20 20:33:21 2013. Would it really make a different what religion the judge was? there are GAYS in the Mormon Church. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 20 20:53:00 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Dec 20 20:36:03 2013. not in georgia |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 20 20:54:23 2013, in response to Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 20 18:41:05 2013.  The first gay couple to be married in Utah, Michael Ferguson, second from right, and his husband, Seth Anderson, kiss as Blake Ferguson and his girlfriend Danielle Morgan watch after the pair married at the Salt Lake County Clerks office on Friday. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 20 20:56:41 2013, in response to Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 20 18:41:05 2013. Where is Sen. Orrin Hatch when you need him....... |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 21:35:51 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 20 20:33:42 2013. Homosexuality is against the muslim faith. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 21:37:04 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 20 20:54:23 2013. I doubt they're Mormans. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 20 21:46:19 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 21:37:04 2013. "I doubt they're Mormans"You don't know much about anything! www.affirmation.org |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 22:03:41 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 20 21:46:19 2013. Correction. Mormons. |
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Posted by TonyG on Fri Dec 20 22:09:55 2013, in response to Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 20 18:41:05 2013. Nice. This is the modern day civil rights movement, folks. By 2015 gay marriage will be legal in all 50 states. It's a good time to be American. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 20 22:15:01 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 21:35:51 2013. So is his entire religion. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 20 22:17:04 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by TonyG on Fri Dec 20 22:09:55 2013. "It's a good time to be American."Not if your name is Phil Robertson and his followers. |
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Repost: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 20 22:28:27 2013, in response to Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 20 18:41:05 2013. Easy got there before you . . . and yes, this will mean Sharia compliance. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Dec 20 23:27:08 2013, in response to Repost: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 20 22:28:27 2013. Gonna run out and buy a burkha for my wife right now! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 22 02:35:07 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 20 20:53:00 2013. As more and more states allow Same Sex Marriage Georgia will be forced to allow it. BTW, all states that allow it also provide that churches who do not allow it may not have to. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 02:36:08 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 22 02:35:07 2013. And that's only fair ... don't like it, don't do it but don't impose it on others. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 22 02:52:47 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 22 02:35:07 2013. "May not"?EXACTLY!!!!!!! But give it twenty years or so as attitudes change and momentum builds and you'll see the Church either give in or be forced to marry same-sex couples. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 22 02:58:50 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 02:36:08 2013. Eventually, Churches that won't marry gays will be "hate groups".Not sure how it will end up. Maybe same-sex civil rights won't be the cool thing to support like it is today. Just today I heard a story about a Methodist minister defrocked for marrying his son to another man. Church will eventually cave to the momentum. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 03:06:29 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 22 02:58:50 2013. Only folks I see getting twisted over it is the right. "libs" have the brain power to understand the difference between the faithful and the charlatans. Imposing religious dogma on those who aren't ministerial is a problem, those who are not "of the cloth" should be allowed to choose based on their OWN faith and beliefs. Let's be real here - those who are faithful probably wouldn't want to use the services, but those who aren't shouldn't be stopped from following their OWN conscience in these matters. That's what Catholicism teaches, something lost on the thumpers entirely ... "free will." |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 22 03:10:05 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 18:45:39 2013. I thought you posted a few days ago that you have no issue with civil gay marriage being legal. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 22 03:12:20 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by TonyG on Fri Dec 20 22:09:55 2013. By 2015? A friend of mine posted this on Facebook after New Mexico legalized gay marriage last week:"There are now 17 states (+DC) with marriage equality, and 29 states that ban same-sex marriage in their constitutions. That leaves just 4 states in neither category: Indiana, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Wyoming. This means that all the low-hanging fruit has been picked! The way forward (other than electing Democrats in PA) has to involve going after those state constitutions, either through the regular amendment process (which is underway in Oregon and Nevada) or through the federal courts (as already happened in California)." I doubt all the states that ban same sex marriage are going to make it legal in the next 12 months. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 22 03:16:36 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 22 03:12:20 2013. I think it's going to fall like dominoes. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 22 03:23:42 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 22 03:16:36 2013. I think it will fall, but it won't be universal in the US by the end of next year as TonyG claims. We'll see in 12 months... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 22 03:27:24 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 22 03:23:42 2013. Well adjusted for % of population, it will be available to 90% of citizens in 12 months. Within 24 for sure.Even 9 local can get married. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 22 07:41:55 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 20 18:45:39 2013. Throwing the doors open for Sharia law. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 22 07:42:36 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage and Polygamy, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 22 07:41:55 2013. LOL! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 12:56:31 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage and Polygamy, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 22 07:41:55 2013. Aw c'mon ... I'll bet you'll look GREAT in a burka. :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 12:57:33 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 22 03:10:05 2013. I personally don't. But I still believe that a vast majority of Americans don't. Especially Utah, one of, if not the most religious state in union. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:04:32 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 03:06:29 2013. Are there Catholic priests that have performed same sex marriages? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 22 13:18:25 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:04:32 2013. I don't believe any Catholic Priest has ever performed same sex marriages. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 22 13:19:33 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 22 02:52:47 2013. I believe that will never happen. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 22 13:23:14 2013, in response to Repost: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 20 22:28:27 2013. YOU ARE 100 Per cent WRONG!!!! Crawl back in your hole!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 13:23:23 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:04:32 2013. Not that I know of. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:30:44 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 13:23:23 2013. So wouldn't be hypocritical for a devout Catholic to support gay marriage? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 22 13:31:26 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:04:32 2013. Former Catholic priests have; not current priests. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 22 13:36:30 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:30:44 2013. It's very simple. If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married.You can believe that the sacrament of matrimony in the Roman Catholic Church should be reserved for a man and a woman, but not be bothered one whit if other churches or the state permit gay marriage. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Dec 22 13:44:17 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 22 13:31:26 2013. Won't they have to perform them for the armed forces? Or leave? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 22 13:46:35 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:30:44 2013. What Al said ... you see ... we're not supposed to judge others, that's for God to do. Am *I* getting gay married? Nope. I think bingbong would have an issue with me if I did. So would the state of New York. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 22 13:57:39 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:30:44 2013. Yes it would.The lib heretics don't want to admit that they're just one step away from excommunication. Pope Francis already showed what he's about when he excommunicated this guy. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Dec 22 14:35:42 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 22 13:30:44 2013. I doubt most care. If it isn't happeneing in church, who is to judge? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 22 14:40:12 2013, in response to Re: Judge Strikes Down Utah's Ban on Same-Sex Marriage, posted by Easy on Sun Dec 22 13:44:17 2013. No. A Catholic Armed Forces chaplain doesn't have to marry two Jews. Why would he have to marry two gays? |
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