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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:18:16 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by The I MAN on Sat Dec 14 19:33:25 2013.

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There is insanity at both edges of the political spectrum.

The lunatics are not at the edges of the Republican Party.

They ARE the Republican Party.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:51:04 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 14 21:00:36 2013.

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I was very libertarian in my teens (except on matters of universal health care, education and old-age/disability social insurance).
Then I grew up.

Anyone who is still a libertarian (or a Communist) in their thirties is a complete fool whose opinion on ANYTHING should never be taken seriously.

It's like still believing in the Tooth Fairy after age 8.
A case of stunted intellectual development and delusional, eternally adolescent thinking.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Dec 15 10:53:07 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 09:58:31 2013.

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You can buy Night Vision goggles. As for the M203- LORDY!!!

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:53:37 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by TonyG on Fri Dec 13 22:27:02 2013.

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Congrats.

Does she know you post here?

How long after you met her did you tell her you like trains?

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Dec 15 10:54:10 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:51:04 2013.

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I was a libertarian when I was 20. Reagan cured that.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Dec 15 10:56:19 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 15 10:01:03 2013.

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ARMAGEDDON IS COMING!!!
Why don't you kill yourself so you don't have to experience it?

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:56:47 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by TonyG on Sat Dec 14 18:32:57 2013.

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I figured you'd be a romantic.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 15 10:59:54 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 09:58:31 2013.

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I doubt you can sell Justice Scalia, much less Justices Kennedy and Roberts, on that opinion. I predict a 7-2 vote when something of that sort comes up.





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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by TonyG on Sun Dec 15 11:03:53 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 15 00:51:25 2013.

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Future wife is a veterinarian, it's a cool place to have the wedding, and it's a "destination" type of place as 75% of the guests are from ou of town.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by TonyG on Sun Dec 15 11:05:30 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 13 23:51:50 2013.

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Congrats!

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by TonyG on Sun Dec 15 11:07:04 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:53:37 2013.

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She has never been to this site. I told her I liked trains within 6 months or so.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 11:13:15 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by TonyG on Sun Dec 15 11:07:04 2013.

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She has never been to this site.

NEVER tell her of its existence.

It would destroy your marriage.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 15 11:50:52 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 14 15:47:13 2013.

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If obama is an extremist, why did he win twice as President? Since you are a member of the Tea Party, why the did they loose twice? I happen to be a Democrat, but I don't wear a flag saying I am.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by bingbong on Sun Dec 15 12:04:25 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by TonyG on Sun Dec 15 11:05:30 2013.

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Same to you two! Zoo weddings are so cool.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by bingbong on Sun Dec 15 12:05:20 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by bingbong on Sun Dec 15 12:04:25 2013.

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One thought. Avoid the apes. That's not rice they're flinging at the happy couple!

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 12:08:06 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 15 11:50:52 2013.

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You seem to boastfully proclaim that you are a Democrat here frequently enough. I do not see many Tea Party members wearing flags either. President Obama won because he represented himself as the "candidate of change". He made many promises that appealed to many people such as myself. To this date he's not delivered nor has he enhanced the image of this nation in the world. While I have no intention of changing my party loyalties, I do believe that I made a mistake in 2008 and 2012. I get the impression that you do not see the difference nor do I think that you care.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 12:37:08 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 15 03:17:05 2013.

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You can always blame the plutocrats for that revolution if it happens.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Dec 15 12:41:43 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 15 00:12:31 2013.

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His best option is whatever he feels is right for him, his future wife, and his guests.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 12:56:34 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 09:41:59 2013.

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Exactly. They sold a bill of goods.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 15 14:45:22 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 12:56:34 2013.

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ANd now they're trying to make you pay rent on it. :(

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 17:26:39 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:51:04 2013.

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I agree. I stopped being a libertarian at 19/20.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 18:39:42 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 12:08:06 2013.

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I did not make a mistake in either election. There were only two candidates in each general election. I have never voted for Obama in a primary election.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by RIPtA42Hopetunnel on Sun Dec 15 18:58:57 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 13 20:19:06 2013.

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You hate chin ups so you could have low t, hence all lowercase t's in your handle to make that point.

Ahh; I thought they were crosses for supporting Pope Francis or something.

I do hate chinups. I've never done one in my life and almost failed gym class as a result.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 15 20:38:12 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by RIPtA42Hopetunnel on Sun Dec 15 18:58:57 2013.

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Ahh; I thought they were crosses for supporting Pope Francis or something.

Support him in what way? Are you going to Church or something? If I could tell the Pope one thing, it would be to purse a friendship with Rush Limbaugh.


I do hate chinups. I've never done one in my life and almost failed gym class as a result.

Honestly, I think neutral grip chinups are better.


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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 15 20:38:12 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by RIPtA42Hopetunnel on Sun Dec 15 18:58:57 2013.

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Ahh; I thought they were crosses for supporting Pope Francis or something.

Support him in what way? Are you going to Church or something? If I could tell the Pope one thing, it would be to purse a friendship with Rush Limbaugh.


I do hate chinups. I've never done one in my life and almost failed gym class as a result.

Honestly, I think neutral grip chinups are better.


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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 15 20:49:26 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:51:04 2013.

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Libertarians are usually Centrists.

Like me.

At least you admit to being an extreme Leftist.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 15 20:55:08 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 15 20:49:26 2013.

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Libertarians are mostly teabaggers.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 15 21:49:15 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:51:04 2013.

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Libertarians are sociopathic.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 21:50:52 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 18:39:42 2013.

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It sounds as though you think that you voted for the "lesser of two evils". I didn't feel that way at the time. I thought that Mr. Obama was the better choice. Had I to do it over again, I might make a different choice.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 22:47:00 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 21:50:52 2013.

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I do believe Obama was the better choice over McCain or Romney.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 15 22:47:08 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SMAZ on Sun Dec 15 10:51:04 2013.

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So you becoming a fascist is "growing up"?

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 15 22:49:22 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 15 20:49:26 2013.

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He's a misogynist too.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 15 22:50:10 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 12:08:06 2013.

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I dunno, as far as enhancing our image goes, sometimes all one has to do is not be an asshole and one's image will seem enhanced :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 22:53:16 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 22:47:00 2013.

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I agree about McCain. I am starting to have 2nd thoughts about Romney. I also believe that had more people gotten true unemployment stats and if the truth were known about the disastrous ACA law, the election might have had a different outcome.


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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 22:54:40 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 15 22:50:10 2013.

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Do you see Mr. Obama's foreign policy as being effective or productive? I am really disappointed with what he's done.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:00:52 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 22:53:16 2013.

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The ACA is not a disaster.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 15 23:15:17 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 22:54:40 2013.

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Our image has improved and we're winding down 2 costly wars. A lot of terrorists have been killed including bin Laden. Has he stopped North Korea and Iran from advancing their nuclear agenda? No. Is Russia still a pain in the ass? Yes. Can we fix those? probably not. Russia is always going to be a pain in the ass and IMO if someone wants to build nuclear weapons, you're really not going to stop them without dropping an A bomb on them.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 15 23:15:29 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:00:52 2013.

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And the unemployment rate is the result of the stimulus going to worthless tax cuts instead of actually stimulating the economy with jobs.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 15 23:16:03 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 15 23:15:17 2013.

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Our image has improved

LOL!

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 23:18:03 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:00:52 2013.

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I guess that depends on the definition of a disaster. Over $600 million for the problematic website plus over $3 billion spent to promote the plan and Less people have gotten insurance than have lost their coverage because of the law. That's in addition to the higher costs and higher deductibles and other broken promises. I call it a disaster.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 23:20:48 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 15 23:15:17 2013.

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I disagree that our image has improved. Putin has made our President look weak and feckless. Our allies and our enemies both have less faith in our word and our will.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:22:12 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 23:18:03 2013.

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Those plans that were cancelled were garbage plans that ought to be cancelled. They are essentially scams.

As for the website, that is working better all the time and will eventually work well.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 23:23:04 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 15 23:15:29 2013.

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Are you also including the "Risk Corridors" which were created bu the ACA? Mr. Obama said now more government bailouts but he's promised the insurance companies $billions after 3 years if their profits fall due to ACA.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 15 23:23:46 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 23:20:48 2013.

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Can you back up your statements?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun Dec 15 23:25:02 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:22:12 2013.

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they weren't all garbage plans.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:26:20 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by DAnD124 on Sun Dec 15 23:25:02 2013.

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Like what?

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 23:27:54 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:22:12 2013.

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They may or may not have been garbage. My sister was very happy with the plan that she had. The plan that she was offered with similar coverage is roughly double her previous monthly premium and the deductible makes having insurance almost meaningless. They are now forcing people to purchase coverage that they neither need nor want. Seniors are being forced to pay for maternity care and pediatric dental coverage. It's like requiring a person with a 12 year old car to buy fire, theft and collision coverage.

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 15 23:29:21 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 15 23:23:04 2013.

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Are we going for the unemployment situation that goes all the way back to 2007? Or are we doing ACA? Different stuff. Stimulus also ended well before ACA. As to the corporate interests, "Corporations are people my friend" (M Romney)

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Re: 2013 List Of Liberals

Posted by DAnD124 on Sun Dec 15 23:29:59 2013, in response to Re: 2013 List Of Liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 15 23:26:20 2013.

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like plans for men that didn't include maternity care. or plans that didn't include

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