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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 21 12:27:53 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 12:27:29 2013.

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Whatever.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 21 12:28:47 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 12:26:39 2013.

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Goetz is the perfect example of why whites are in greater danger.

And he fought back. Think about the many who become a statistic.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:30:52 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 21 12:03:45 2013.

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It's blatantly obvious. It's passing judgment.

He saw an article about a group of black teens attacking a white couple including alleged racial epithets and called them "animals". What is NOT hateful about that comment?

I'd call them criminals and leave it to the courts to figure it out.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 12:31:26 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 12:24:21 2013.

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Not really.....I am a minority....so Dave is not....and I have a way different prospective on life. I've been discriminated in the past so I know full well what it's like. Look at Dave for a moment. I misspelled ONE FUCKING WORD and right away Mr. Dave become Dave the anti-immigrant hater saying...oh I see English is not your primary language. Who the FUCK IS THAT PIECE OF LOW-LIFE SHIT!

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:32:28 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 12:13:54 2013.

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Wrong.It is still incumbent on the kids that approached the vehicle. OTOH they could have locked the car doors. This IS NYC, fer chrissakes. That is basic streetsense.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:33:17 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 12:15:54 2013.

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Goetz is a vigilante and all his type does is make living even more dangerous.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:36:38 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 21 12:19:26 2013.

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If they called 911 to begin those kids probably would have split at the first honk of the siren. Since bringing them in would have involved a lot of paperwork on their part,they'd think it better to just make this go away lest it get worse.

Planned Parenthood is NOT an "abortion machine". They are a healthcare provider first and foremost, dedicated to preventing unwanted pregnancy in the first place.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 12:37:08 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 12:15:54 2013.

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Goetz is a hero.

IAWTP

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 12:40:14 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:33:17 2013.

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Vigilantism is the path that ordinary men and women must take when authorities charged with protecting public safety are inept, negligent or non-existent.



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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:44:50 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 12:40:14 2013.

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It is still wrong, and places the general public at danger. Who are these people? Can they control a gun? Can they prove they can control a gun in the panicked state of a crime in progress?

The answers to all those questions are NO.

Even the NYC cops have a hard time at that. It takes a LOT of practice to handle a lethal weapon. Nobody except cops and military can devote enough time to that.

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Re: Racists on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 21 12:49:50 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 08:26:28 2013.

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Thanks for more proof that you're a racist, streetcarracist.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 12:50:46 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:44:50 2013.

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It is still wrong, and places the general public at danger.

It SAFEGUARDS the general public.

Who are these people?

American Citizens.

Can they control a gun? Can they prove they can control a gun in the panicked state of a crime in progress?

Fundamental constitutional rights don't need proof of proficiency.


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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:58:16 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 12:50:46 2013.

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If they are on the street and not proficient in handling a gun (and most gun owners are NOT) they are a danger to MY lIFE and everyone ELSES. Stray bullets can KILL.

Public safety trumps personal rights. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 13:11:34 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:58:16 2013.

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The lives of many are altered when uninformed citizens vote but nobody suggests to take away the right to vote from such people.

It should be a self-proclaimed duty of all Americans to excel when exercising their constitutional rights.

However, like with having an 100% well-informed electorate, or requiring all artists to be talented, proficiency in marksmanship by all citizens who choose to own a firearm is not gonna happen nor can it be mandated.

The educational system can only help those who want to help themselves.

You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

And as I have pointed out to you and others about 50 million times, you cannot arbitrarily brandish a gun in a threatening manner in public either.


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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 13:21:08 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 13:11:34 2013.

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Having a gun when one is not competent in is use is a threat to the public. There is nothing in the Constitution that permits recklessness.

The right to a gun is dependent upon the need for a militia. We've long since left that station.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 13:41:42 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 13:21:08 2013.

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The right to a gun is dependent upon the need for a militia.

And as and I have pointed out to you 231 million times you continue to be wrong:

"The Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit affirmed."

United States Supreme Court

DC v Heller


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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Oct 21 13:43:29 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 13:41:42 2013.

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231 million? Even I'm not wrong that many times and I think it's fair to say I'm always wrong.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 13:47:44 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 21 12:28:47 2013.

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"Goetz is the perfect example of why whites are in greater danger."

Now that's a LAUGH!

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 13:48:11 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:30:52 2013.

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Excellent post

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 13:48:34 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:32:28 2013.

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IAWTP

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 13:50:07 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 13:41:42 2013.

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"Self-defense within the home" ends at the FRONT DOOR.

We are talking about armed and dangerous people in public. Their motivation is not th eissue. They fact that they can kill innocent people IS.

Vigilantism is NOT a lawful purpose.

Heller is still a flawed decision, but that's another argument for another time. The second amendment says nothing of "self-defense".

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 13:54:06 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:36:38 2013.

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IAWTP

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 21 14:05:40 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:36:38 2013.

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IAWTP

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Re: Racists OLOG on the rampage in OT board

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 14:08:00 2013, in response to Re: Racists on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 21 12:49:50 2013.

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"Thanks for more proof that you're a racist, streetcarracist."

There is no proof. You're just a heartless lil ole piece of shit with no where to go in life.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:38:42 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:30:52 2013.

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It's true, they're not animals - animals don't arbitrarily attack people for no reason, only when challenged or for self-defense. Perhaps 'wild beasts' is a better term.

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Re: racist animals on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:41:03 2013, in response to Re: racist animals on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by The silence on Mon Oct 21 10:43:50 2013.

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Excellent post.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:44:36 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 12:31:26 2013.

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Dave the anti-immigrant hater

LOL! Since I'm a second generation American and my wife is a first generation American, you know less than nothing. I bet you couldn't find your ass in the dark with two hands and a flashlight.

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Re: Racist teens on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 21 14:48:37 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:44:36 2013.

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pwn3d.

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Re: Racist teens on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:56:18 2013, in response to Re: Racist teens on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 21 14:48:37 2013.

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It was too easy.

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Re: Racist teens on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 21 15:07:08 2013, in response to Re: Racist teens on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:56:18 2013.

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Almost a pyrrhic victory.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 15:23:32 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 10:33:02 2013.

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"Unresolved anger leads to high blood pressure and other health issues."

And you should work on really sewing up your mouth for once.


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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 15:27:53 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:44:36 2013.

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"Since I'm a second generation American and my wife is a first generation American, you know less than nothing. I bet you couldn't find your ass in the dark with two hands and a flashlight. "

PLEASE.....spare me and the rest of us of your FOOLISH SHIT. you went there....I GAVE IT RIGHT BACK TO YOU!

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 15:28:19 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 14:44:36 2013.

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"Since I'm a second generation American and my wife is a first generation American, you know less than nothing. I bet you couldn't find your ass in the dark with two hands and a flashlight. "

PLEASE.....spare me and the rest of us of your FOOLISH SHIT. you went there....I GAVE IT RIGHT BACK TO YOU!

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re: ROWDY teens on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 15:28:50 2013, in response to Re: Racist teens on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 21 14:48:37 2013.

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re: ROWDY teens on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 15:29:13 2013, in response to Re: Racist teens on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 21 15:07:08 2013.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:32:14 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 12:27:29 2013.

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No, it's not. Genocide requires people to be killed.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:36:39 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:32:28 2013.

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That was obvious to anyone who read the article (which you didn't), but only Betsy Bleeding-heart and Maynard G. Muskie-vote would feel the need to bring it up in the interests of blaming the victim.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 15:46:08 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:36:39 2013.

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LOL.....more foolish crap......from the righties! She did read the article....you just don't tolerate people with different opinions. Funny thing though, you and Olog are at each other constantly, but yet both of you are on the RIGHT SIDE of the page.....my my....2 brothers who don't get along.....

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:51:27 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 12:30:52 2013.

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All humans are members of kingdom animalia. He referred to them as animals due to their uncivilized actions, and not due to race.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:53:43 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 12:40:14 2013.

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+1000

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:58:25 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 13:50:07 2013.

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That it says nothing is why "self-defense" is allowed. You seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of negative liberties.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 16:03:54 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:51:27 2013.

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" He referred to them as animals due to their uncivilized actions, and not due to race."

I highly doubt that DAVE used it in that terms. He used more so for racial reason. THIW


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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Oct 21 16:09:12 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by SMAZ on Mon Oct 21 13:41:42 2013.

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It should no longer come as any great shock that our very own b68slowpoke sat as Judge Pro Tempore A on the Appellate Court of the DC Circuit during the time of this ruling. b68slowpoke... Jack of all trades and Master of all of those trades.

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Re: Animals on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Oct 21 17:55:11 2013, in response to Re: Animals on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 04:50:43 2013.

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bullshit..it has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Bitter bitches..
is your selfishness THAT BAD..?

The ONLY reason you balked NOW is the fact that I CALLED YOU OUT ON YOUR RACISM..now your trying to play clean up woman.

YOU FILTHY OPPORTUNIST.Pissed off about this whole TEA BAGGER TEDDY CRUZ OBAMA bullshit..you couldnt WAIT for the chance to go in deep.

sad for you..great for me! now i can go on the offensive without care.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 18:33:29 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:36:39 2013.

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Read the article twice. Linked first time because I thought it was about some wild animals in Brooklyn going rogue, like they were rabid (NYC has lots of raccoons, so it's not a stretch). Was quite surprised to see the reference to "animals" was the OP's bigotry.

I do not blame the vicim,but fer chrissakes, the whole incident was readily AVOIDABLE. Little street sense that every New Yorker should possess would have made this a non-event, and everyone could shop in peace.

First and foremost NEVER drive around with your car doors unlocked. They can open spontaneously and drop the contents of the vehicle, like passengers, while in motion. (Remember what to do if your hood suddenly pops up from out of nowhere from driver's ed? Same scenario, but with doors. Latches fail.) Second NEVER drive around heavily populated areas with car doors unlocked, you could be carjacked. Third, NEVER drive around with car doors unlocked, you could be grabbed out and beaten for no damn reason. So the victim is an idiot that to a point, brought it on themselves.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 18:35:42 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:51:27 2013.

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That reference is NOT how civilized people behave. That those teens didn't as well is something for the judicial system to contend with. For an adult to characterize them as "animals" shows they are no better than those hoodlums.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 21 18:38:52 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 21 15:58:25 2013.

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Au contraire. Women, for the better part of the 20th century plus, have been the victims of negative liberties. Which the RW would evaporate in a nanosecond given the opportunity.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 19:23:09 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 16:03:54 2013.

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False. Spider-Pig is absolutely correct, as I made very clear earlier.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 20:11:18 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Oct 21 15:23:32 2013.

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You may want to drink hibiscus tea, which helps lower blood pressure. You really are worked up.

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Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn

Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 21 20:14:50 2013, in response to Re: ROWDY TEENS on the rampage in Brooklyn, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Oct 21 13:43:29 2013.

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I've never made a mistake. I thought I did once, but I was wrong....

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