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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 15:16:57 2010 edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What, implicate Germany? That's what Milošević got killed to prevent. They won't allow the whole ugly story to come out. The Local Karadžić: Germany withholding proof of Bosnian weapons trade Published: 30 Jun 10 16:29 CET Suspected Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadžić is reportedly accusing the German government of holding back explosive documents that show NATO conducted illegal weapons deals during the Bosnian war. Daily Die Welt reported on Wednesday that Karadžić, facing genocide charges before the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, wrote to the German embassy in the Netherlands calling on them to “redouble efforts to retrieve these documents.” But Ambassador Thomas Läufer recently told the court, which sits in The Hague, that Germany did not have the documents Karadžić was seeking. The former Bosnian Serb leader claims German archives contain records that show NATO supplied weapons to Bosnian Muslims to use against Serbs during the war in Bosnia between 1992 and 1995. This would have been a breach of the weapons embargo enforced at the time by the United Nations. Karadžić, acting as his own lawyer, claimed before the UN tribunal that Serbs needed to be able to defend themselves against Muslim attacks that were backed by NATO. Among other things, the documents demonstrated the supply of weapons from Britain and France, which passed through Frankfurt airport, Karadžić said. The tribunal ordered the German government to investigate and hand over any such documents. In his letter to the German embassy, dated June 28 and made public by the tribunal, Karadžić claimed that former Federal Minister for Post and Communication Christian Schwarz-Schilling had told broadcaster Deutsche Welle that the government “possibly” had at its disposal compromising documents about weapons supplies from France and Britain. Karadžić stands accused of 11 counts of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity — including ordering Serb troops to massacre about 8,000 Muslims in the UN-protected zone of Srebrenica in July 1995. After 13 years on the run, he was arrested in the Serbian capital Belgrade in July 2008.
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 19:00:41 2010, in response to Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bosnia, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 15:16:57 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It figures that you would believe the word of a mass murderer and war criminal.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 19:06:34 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bosnia, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 19:00:41 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Neither of those have been established. Same goes for Milošević. You OTOH are showing yourself to be a Code Napoleon type (guilty until declared otherwise). Ready to abandon civilization that quickly? Don't care about the real war criminal in the Bosnia conflict (Helmut Kohl)?
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 19:10:06 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 19:06:34 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Neither of those have been established. Same goes for Milošević It figures that you would take the side of mass murderers and war criminals. Don't care about the real war criminal in the Bosnia conflict (Helmut Kohl)? It figures that you would blame the genocide on someone other than those responsible.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 30 19:15:08 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 19:10:06 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d That's our Olog ... :(
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 21:32:01 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 19:10:06 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It figures that you would take the side of mass murderers and war criminals That hasn't been proven yet, as I said, fascist boy. It figures that you would blame the genocide on someone other than those responsible What genocide? Oh yeah, the one that there was no evidence of. If there were one, this guy was definitely responsible. What do you have to say now, anti-American boy?
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 21:33:57 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 30 19:15:08 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d That's our Olog When were Milosevic or Karadzic actually proven to be mass murderers? Run that by us again, O Person Against The Principle Of Innocent Until Proven Guilty.
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 23:30:04 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 21:32:01 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What genocide? Oh yeah, the one that there was no evidence of. You mean I didn't see the mass graves that I saw? Eisenhower's wisdom rings just as true in 2010 as it did in 1945: "The things I saw beggar description...The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were...overpowering...I made the visit deliberately in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.' "take all the pictures you can and personal accounts because someday, some moron will come along saying it never happened"
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 23:43:06 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 23:30:04 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You mean I didn't see the mass graves that I saw? Did you know who or what was buried in them, if anything? Sorry, but I don't believe you do. Bad enough you have no problem fighting Germany's war of aggression for them.
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 23:47:20 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 23:43:06 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Sorry, but I don't believe you do. Somebody with no credibility not believing me is not a concern. Those that know me know the truth.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 1 00:44:49 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 30 23:47:20 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Somebody with no credibility not believing me is not a concern Hah. If you weren't so worried about your own credibility, you wouldn't say things like that. Details, please, and not to use as an excuse to revert to Code Napoleon. And merely seeing what appeared to be a mass grave is not evidence that the Serbs did anything; you seem too eager to condemn the Serbs and lay no blame at all with Franjo Tudjman.
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 1 00:54:56 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 1 00:44:49 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Tudjman's people were nowhere near where I saw what I saw. The graves I saw were near Zvornik and Bratunac. You are a madman and a denier of European Genocide. There should be laws against people like you.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 1 01:22:16 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 1 00:54:56 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Tudjman's people were nowhere near where I saw what I saw. The graves I saw were near Zvornik and Bratunac Details? You saw the bodies that went into the graves? You have a count of bodies? You can say for sure that they were not soldiers? Nothing you say is proof of guilt on Karadzic's part for "genocide". Since you asked me to, I looked up Zvornik, and all the info I can see dates the mass grave from 1992, with bodies in the hundreds. Same with Bratunac. BTW, Tudjman was all over Bosnia-Herzegovina during those periods. Forgot about Ahmici? You are a madman and a denier of European Genocide Says the one who denies the truth about such genocides, especially the real ones versus the fake ones, and holds the Code Napoleon outlook without having all the facts. How about 3,000 Serbs massacred in the Srebrenica area?
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 1 02:00:21 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 1 01:22:16 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Tudjman was all over Bosnia-Herzegovina during those periods. Forgot about Ahmici? As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about. Please keep making a fool of yourself for all to see. How about 3,000 Serbs massacred in the Srebrenica area? why stop digging when you are already in a hole right? Srebenica IS the Bratunac/Zvornik area. This conversation stops now. I will not waste my time with an insane Genocide Denier.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 1 02:12:15 2010, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 1 02:00:21 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about So you're denying Ahmici. OK, cast more aspersions on your own claims. why stop digging when you are already in a hole right? You're the one that brought up holes. You don't say what was in them, though. Srebenica IS the Bratunac/Zvornik area I know where it is; I can read a map. Mass graves dating from 1992? Still so ready to presume guilt instead of innocence? Tudjman got sick in 1993, the year after those people died. This conversation stops now. I will not waste my time with an insane Genocide Denier Saying stuff like that makes you look even more fascist. Afraid that the evidence Karadzic asked for will blow a hole in the phony story? You of all people shouldn't fear that. But you do.
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jul 1 09:00:06 2010, in response to Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bosnia, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 15:16:57 2010. edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d This court is a disaster. No good can ever come of it. Nurembergism is a stupid idea.
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Oct 5 22:47:37 2013, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 30 21:32:01 2010. fiogf49gjkf0d bump
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 5 22:49:14 2013, in response to Re: Karadzic accuses Germany of withholding evidence of illegal weapons trading between NATO and Bos, posted by daNd124 on Sat Oct 5 22:47:37 2013. fiogf49gjkf0d Did you read that other post? No you didn't. Try proving this happened, dandKKK.
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